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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:21:13 PM EDT
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If not outright censorship, look for the handful of sane voices out there to be deliberately overwhelmed and silenced by those who want them gone. Post something unapproved on Facebook? the next day you're out of a job.
e-Brownshirts are here and only getting stronger. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:22:28 PM EDT
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It's already there. Have you seen what facebook did prior to the election?
Ever try to discuss a contentious topic on facebook or another forum? Post that men aren't women on twitter? Try to start an alternate platform and have major credit card companies, paypal and godaddy de-platform your service? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:23:41 PM EDT
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It's already there. Have you seen what facebook did prior to the election? Ever try to discuss a contentious topic on facebook or another forum? Post that men aren't women on twitter? Try to start an alternate platform and have major credit card companies, paypal and godaddy de-platform your service? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:29:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:34:41 PM EDT
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So they are only going to censor free speech and thought?
Pron is still GTG? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 9:35:37 PM EDT
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The wild west of the net ended about 2003ish IMO
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:33:41 PM EDT
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US now has some China type site blocking going on.
Quite a lot of CONUS websites have very recently become 404 to us foreigners...."normal" gun & shooting type sites. We already have the retards at eBay blocking us buying knives on the site. ....I see things becoming much worse before very long |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:35:56 PM EDT
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So they are only going to censor free speech and thought? Pron is still GTG? **and** "Big Brother wasn't forced upon us... he was INVITED IN!" |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:38:28 PM EDT
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If the internet compromises, you'll just have to shift traffic over to the outernet, the undernet, or the Exo-Net
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:40:41 PM EDT
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The real question is how long the black hats of the world are going to put up with it.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:47:08 PM EDT
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I still have my 1977 Sears master catalog that I can still fap too. Damn titties in the lingerie models.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:47:36 PM EDT
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If not outright censorship, look for the handful of sane voices out there to be deliberately overwhelmed and silenced by those who want them gone. Post something unapproved on Facebook? the next day you're out of a job. e-Brownshirts are here and only getting stronger. Heres a link. He should lose his job, his house, and ability to care for his family. [ralphwiggum] Im fighting! [/ralphwiggum] |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:48:14 PM EDT
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Censored and heavily manipulated to push the agenda.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:49:47 PM EDT
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Yes but with just enough bread and circus to keep the masses occupied.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:52:51 PM EDT
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It's already there. Have you seen what facebook did prior to the election? Ever try to discuss a contentious topic on facebook or another forum? Post that men aren't women on twitter? Try to start an alternate platform and have major credit card companies, paypal and godaddy de-platform your service? |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:54:02 PM EDT
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I can’t believe Facebook hasn’t been MySpace’d by now.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:56:59 PM EDT
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Way past that point. People will point at the overt stuff like FB or twitter, but it's been going on a while
and it's the stuff you don't see that's way scarier. Every now and then I'll stumble into evidence and it's pretty shocking. One of the crazier ones was a friend trying to find out about an infamous local (to them) criminal case, and got absolutely no results more recent than a year ago on google, bing, etc. I dropped the same search on baidu.com (the chinese apparently don't censor local news outside of the country) and turned up hundreds of recent of hits, all pages from local news stations and newspapers. Even crazier, a lot of those sites used google for their internal search, and it wouldn't find the news on their own site if you search for it, either. If you hang out in the wild-west free spaces (8chan and the like) you'll discover the censorship is far more pervasive than you ever knew, because, well, it's being censored. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 10:58:02 PM EDT
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I can't believe Facebook hasn't been MySpace'd by now. Most people 25/under dont use it at all. Its mostly used by people age 30-45. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:00:25 PM EDT
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Ask Alex Jones.
Regardless of what nutty shit he spouts he was the test case. They shut him down on social media. Ironically, Jim Acosta being granted a judgement forcing access to the White House probably paves the way for Jones, and you and I, to barge into anywhere we want and behave like shitheads because "PRESS!" |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:02:05 PM EDT
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I am sorta starting to worry that in a few years. We'll look back at our current time and earlier as the "Wild West" of the internet. When information flowed freely and as long as you paid for a pipeline to the internet, you could access mostly any information you want. But as recent years have shown, Big media giants are trying to put a stop to this and are getting governments to create laws stopping "Copy Right" infringements, which basically put a stop to all that information access. It seems like eventually, because of all the anger by the Left at Free Speech. And with all the massive power that Globalists, Large Media groups, and Leftist have. And just like so many other inventions that got too scary for citizens to own unfettered, the Internet is headed in the same direction. Lol Britain puts people in jail for posting bad thoughts online. New York wants years of your history if you have a gun. The golden days are gone now the internet is nothing more than the rope that will be used to hang you. |
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:07:19 PM EDT
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As long as nobody turns off my porn spigot I'm fine with pretty much whatever.
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Posted: 11/16/2018 11:14:55 PM EDT
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Arfcom should plan for the future in this respect. Efforts should be made to ensure privacy for members and ways to access the site anonymously. Serious thought should be given to alternate hosting and ready to go switch over.
However, maybe the site has come to grips that the 2a as we know it is done within 10 years anyhow, and this place will be ghosttown. Hopefully that won't be the case but is a real possibility. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 4:50:18 AM EDT
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US now has some China type site blocking going on. Quite a lot of CONUS websites have very recently become 404 to us foreigners...."normal" gun & shooting type sites. We already have the retards at eBay blocking us buying knives on the site. ....I see things becoming much worse before very long Quote HistoryQuoted:
US now has some China type site blocking going on. Quite a lot of CONUS websites have very recently become 404 to us foreigners...."normal" gun & shooting type sites. We already have the retards at eBay blocking us buying knives on the site. ....I see things becoming much worse before very long VPNs and proxies can still get around most of that. Quoted:
Every now and then I'll stumble into evidence and it's pretty shocking. One of the crazier ones was a friend trying to find out about an infamous local (to them) criminal case, and got absolutely no results more recent than a year ago on google, bing, etc. 
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Posted: 11/17/2018 5:51:34 AM EDT
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Yes, in ways you couldn't imagine.
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Posted: 11/17/2018 5:52:28 AM EDT
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If the Left get control of everything, then yes. It will be like internet in China.
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Posted: 11/17/2018 5:56:10 AM EDT
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With left coast liberal companies controlling the social media companies all they have to do is kick you off Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and you're written out of history like a soviet general who fell out of favor.
Look at Gavin McInnes, poof he's gone. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:01:22 AM EDT
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Arfcom should plan for the future in this respect. Efforts should be made to ensure privacy for members and ways to access the site anonymously. Serious thought should be given to alternate hosting and ready to go switch over. However, maybe the site has come to grips that the 2a as we know it is done within 10 years anyhow, and this place will be ghosttown. Hopefully that won't be the case but is a real possibility. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:38:18 AM EDT
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It's already happening
People being fired for expressing differing views on the internet People being censored on social media for associating with certain groups Removal of comment sections on fake news sites Rampant amount of shilling for special interest groups 1984, full speed ahead |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:45:54 AM EDT
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The distributed internet.
They've been trying to kill The Pirate Bay for over a decade, and failed. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:50:22 AM EDT
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The Wild West of the internet is still around but in small pockets. The chans for one. You could use tor to retain anonymity but it hasn't caught on much in the mainstream.
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:51:07 AM EDT
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Censored and heavily manipulated to push the agenda. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:51:50 AM EDT
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Arfcom used to be run out of servers stacked in basically a large closet in a nondescript commercial building. It'd be slower, but unlike most forums run by gun dudes using canned software hosted by third parties this site runs on custom software and did run for years on servers stacked in cellars or offices. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom should plan for the future in this respect. Efforts should be made to ensure privacy for members and ways to access the site anonymously. Serious thought should be given to alternate hosting and ready to go switch over. However, maybe the site has come to grips that the 2a as we know it is done within 10 years anyhow, and this place will be ghosttown. Hopefully that won't be the case but is a real possibility. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:52:20 AM EDT
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Yes but with just enough bread and circus to keep the masses occupied. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:52:27 AM EDT
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Technology, the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems. Well, that and beer.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90243936/exclusive-tim-berners-lee-tells-us-his-radical-new-plan-to-upend-the-world-wide-web "This week, Berners-Lee will launch Inrupt, a startup that he has been building, in stealth mode, for the past nine months. Backed by Glasswing Ventures, its mission is to turbocharge a broader movement afoot, among developers around the world, to decentralize the web and take back power from the forces that have profited from centralizing it. In other words, it’s game on for Facebook, Google, Amazon. For years now, Berners-Lee and other internet activists have been dreaming of a digital utopia where individuals control their own data and the internet remains free and open. But for Berners-Lee, the time for dreaming is over." |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 6:56:04 AM EDT
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ThePirateBay is struggling to remain online. Let that sink in.
Torrent used to be what everyone said would be the savior of the free net, "can't stop the signal." Kinda like bitcoin is now for money. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:12:49 AM EDT
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The real question is how long the black hats of the world are going to put up with it. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:20:09 AM EDT
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Yes but with just enough bread and circus to keep the masses occupied. 
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:23:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:24:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol Britain puts people in jail for posting bad thoughts online. New York wants years of your history if you have a gun. The golden days are gone now the internet is nothing more than the rope that will be used to hang you. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:30:33 AM EDT
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US now has some China type site blocking going on. Quite a lot of CONUS websites have very recently become 404 to us foreigners...."normal" gun & shooting type sites. We already have the retards at eBay blocking us buying knives on the site. ....I see things becoming much worse before very long |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:33:15 AM EDT
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Probably...……..
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:34:02 AM EDT
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With left coast liberal companies controlling the social media companies all they have to do is kick you off Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and you're written out of history like a soviet general who fell out of favor. Look at Gavin McInnes, poof he's gone. I believe someone will fill that void in time though as far as providers go. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:38:21 AM EDT
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Yup. I believe someone will fill that void in time though as far as providers go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With left coast liberal companies controlling the social media companies all they have to do is kick you off Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and you're written out of history like a soviet general who fell out of favor. Look at Gavin McInnes, poof he's gone. I believe someone will fill that void in time though as far as providers go. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:39:56 AM EDT
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Nah....here's the actual truth about it.
Once you start looking at ~removed |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:40:25 AM EDT
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The problem is there’s multiple points of attack, from ISP to hosting to payment platforms/processers, which makes it incredibly difficult to effectively target just one segment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With left coast liberal companies controlling the social media companies all they have to do is kick you off Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and you're written out of history like a soviet general who fell out of favor. Look at Gavin McInnes, poof he's gone. I believe someone will fill that void in time though as far as providers go. 
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:40:30 AM EDT
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Ironically, it was the US Government ( via DARPA ) that essentially created the Internet to be un-governable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Lol Britain puts people in jail for posting bad thoughts online. New York wants years of your history if you have a gun. The golden days are gone now the internet is nothing more than the rope that will be used to hang you. Just wait until some decentralized, anonymous, encrypted chan-like chatroom app takes over. These are the Napster days of social media. Next comes Gnutella and Kazaa. The technology is unstoppable unless they want to abandon ecommerce in the process. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:51:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Facebook isn't the internet. Neither is the web. There will always be a way. Just wait until some decentralized, anonymous, encrypted chan-like chatroom app takes over. These are the Napster days of social media. Next comes Gnutella and Kazaa. The technology is unstoppable unless they want to abandon ecommerce in the process. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:53:32 AM EDT
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So they are only going to censor free speech and thought? Pron is still GTG? |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:55:52 AM EDT
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Control the medium.
Control the message. Influence minds. The strategy and techniques of propaganda remain consistent even while the technology changes. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:56:46 AM EDT
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I am sorta starting to worry that in a few years. We'll look back at our current time and earlier as the "Wild West" of the internet. When information flowed freely and as long as you paid for a pipeline to the internet, you could access mostly any information you want. But as recent years have shown, Big media giants are trying to put a stop to this and are getting governments to create laws stopping "Copy Right" infringements, which basically put a stop to all that information access. It seems like eventually, because of all the anger by the Left at Free Speech. And with all the massive power that Globalists, Large Media groups, and Leftist have. And just like so many other inventions that got too scary for citizens to own unfettered, the Internet is headed in the same direction. |
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