Injectable Peptides…for more than weight loss (Page 5 of 65)
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Originally Posted By thorm001: Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial That looks very promising. I will admit and I am slightly concerned that we have no idea what sort of problems these (or any substance such as food or water) may cause years down the road. I guess we shall see |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: Why did you click on this thread? Originally Posted By JustinU235: Originally Posted By cornholer: Damn. Lots of druggies in this place.  He’s curious |
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Originally Posted By cornholer: Damn. Lots of druggies in this place. The ignorance hurts. I’m sure you’ll never, ever take an antibiotic or blood pressure pill. |
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I'm fortunate that I've never struggled with weight- I am 47 and weigh the same as I did at 18. (A little stronger now even than at 18) But this is life changing for many people. Long term side effects may prove wrong, but there are few things that are more UNHEALTHY long term than being significantly overweight. If these new treatments, medications, whatever can make the people lose the weight, maybe they die of liver failure at 65 instead of heart disease and diabetes at 55. |
| It’s also important to mention the much improved quality of the life that a person can live when they drop a significant amount of weight. It really is dramatically life altering and game changing. Not only the physical wellness will improve, but also mental, spiritual and emotional well-being. |
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Originally Posted By BPR: I'm fortunate that I've never struggled with weight- I am 47 and weigh the same as I did at 18. (A little stronger now even than at 18) But this is life changing for many people. Long term side effects may prove wrong, but there are few things that are more UNHEALTHY long term than being significantly overweight. If these new treatments, medications, whatever can make the people lose the weight, maybe they die of liver failure at 65 instead of heart disease and diabetes at 55. Long term side effects like what? Liver failure? Is that a long term side effect? How long have injectable peptides have been studied? Did they short cut them? |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: Long term side effects like what? Liver failure? Is that a long term side effect? How long have injectable peptides have been studied? Did they short cut them? It was meant hypothetically speaking, I think. However, long-term side effects of any new medication are never known for many years. This is the same for any substance that is placed into a human body. One example would be hydrogenated oils and other unsaturated fast. Something just take time to discover. The adage of we don’t know we don’t know Can be a plot here like it can to most anything else in life. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: Long term side effects like what? Liver failure? Is that a long term side effect? How long have injectable peptides have been studied? Did they short cut them? You know… there’s a point in time where we gonna have to start trusting our doctors and scientist again… especially the Americans ones I may be biased… but GLP1s is the single greatest success since Penicillin I can only speak on Zepbound that I’ve been taking for more than a year… I’ve had no major side effects. There’s some cramping but i believe it’s due to not drinking enough fluids sometimes… curse of your appetite being curbed. |
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Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: You know… there’s a point in time where we gonna have to start trusting our doctors and scientist again… especially the Americans ones I may be biased… but GLP1s is the single greatest success since Penicillin I can only speak on Zepbound that I’ve been taking for more than a year… I’ve had no major side effects. There’s some cramping but i believe it’s due to not drinking enough fluids sometimes… curse of your appetite being curbed. Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: Originally Posted By JustinU235: Long term side effects like what? Liver failure? Is that a long term side effect? How long have injectable peptides have been studied? Did they short cut them? You know… there’s a point in time where we gonna have to start trusting our doctors and scientist again… especially the Americans ones I may be biased… but GLP1s is the single greatest success since Penicillin I can only speak on Zepbound that I’ve been taking for more than a year… I’ve had no major side effects. There’s some cramping but i believe it’s due to not drinking enough fluids sometimes… curse of your appetite being curbed. Honest question, I don't know anyone who uses these drugs. What happens when you stop taking it? I have to imagine that the vast majority will just balloon back up because they didn't change their lifestyle. |
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: Honest question, I don't know anyone who uses these drugs. What happens when you stop taking it? I have to imagine that the vast majority will just balloon back up because they didn't change their lifestyle. As I'm understanding it you won't really lose the weight or regain health even under the medication unless you change your lifestyle concurrently. (Indigestion, acid reflux, etc will result if no healthy diet and exercise in other words) |
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Originally Posted By ETCss_McCrackin: My wife and I are both interested in this. Where is the best place to get it? Originally Posted By ETCss_McCrackin: Originally Posted By PewPewPew1212: [/b] DIM is what u seek. OTC too My wife and I are both interested in this. Where is the best place to get it? Amazon |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Amazon Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Originally Posted By ETCss_McCrackin: Originally Posted By PewPewPew1212: [/b] DIM is what u seek. OTC too My wife and I are both interested in this. Where is the best place to get it? Amazon Ahhh, I was under the impression (based on the thread content) that this was another injectable peptide. I'm seeing now that it's actually a capsule. |
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Originally Posted By TheFringe: As I'm understanding it you won't really lose the weight or regain health even under the medication unless you change your lifestyle concurrently. (Indigestion, acid reflux, etc will result if no healthy diet and exercise in other words) Originally Posted By TheFringe: Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: Honest question, I don't know anyone who uses these drugs. What happens when you stop taking it? I have to imagine that the vast majority will just balloon back up because they didn't change their lifestyle. As I'm understanding it you won't really lose the weight or regain health even under the medication unless you change your lifestyle concurrently. (Indigestion, acid reflux, etc will result if no healthy diet and exercise in other words) This isn't true at all. For fat people - It reduces their appetite (in the brain) and slows digestion/food leaving the stomach, leaving them feeling fuller longer. It also stimulates insulin and inhibits glucagon release, which prevents excess glucose production, helping them control blood sugar - For people with diabetes. Also - most T2 diabetics are overweight, so the former helps them as well. When fat people start taking this, it makes them less hungry and they eat less = calorie deficit = weight loss. If they actually had to eat better and exercise, they wouldn't need the GLP-1 at all. If fat people do not change their eating habits and lifestyle, when they stop taking GLP-1, they will gain all the weight back, plus some usually. Because they go from not being hungry on GLP-1, to hungry all the time without it. They have no self control already (that's why they're taking a weight loss drug), so they eat more = calorie surplus = weight gain. This is also why GLP-1's cause a lot of people to lose muscle mass. They aren't eating enough quality food (protein) to sustain muscle, (along with rapid weight loss). |
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Originally Posted By captnstabn: This isn't true at all. For fat people - It reduces their appetite (in the brain) and slows digestion/food leaving the stomach, leaving them feeling fuller longer. It also stimulates insulin and inhibits glucagon release, which prevents excess glucose production, helping them control blood sugar - For people with diabetes. Also - most T2 diabetics are overweight, so the former helps them as well. When fat people start taking this, it makes them less hungry and they eat less = calorie deficit = weight loss. If they actually had to eat better and exercise, they wouldn't need the GLP-1 at all. If fat people do not change their eating habits and lifestyle, when they stop taking GLP-1, they will gain all the weight back, plus some usually. Because they go from not being hungry on GLP-1, to hungry all the time without it. They have no self control already (that's why they're taking a weight loss drug), so they eat more = calorie surplus = weight gain. This is also why GLP-1's cause a lot of people to lose muscle mass. They aren't eating enough quality food (protein) to sustain muscle, (along with rapid weight loss). It must be awesome to be so perfect and not have any struggles in life!!! Where can I subscribe to your newsletter? |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: It must be awesome to be so perfect and not have any struggles in life!!! Where can I subscribe to your newsletter? None of what I said above is incorrect. If it hurts your feelings, that's a you problem. Personally, I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do with themselves. But at least have correct information. |
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Originally Posted By captnstabn: This isn't true at all. For fat people - It reduces their appetite (in the brain) and slows digestion/food leaving the stomach, leaving them feeling fuller longer. It also stimulates insulin and inhibits glucagon release, which prevents excess glucose production, helping them control blood sugar - For people with diabetes. Also - most T2 diabetics are overweight, so the former helps them as well. When fat people start taking this, it makes them less hungry and they eat less = calorie deficit = weight loss. If they actually had to eat better and exercise, they wouldn't need the GLP-1 at all. This makes the false assumption that there are not biological differences between individuals that may make some people more prone to overeating and less active lifestyle habits than others. If fat people do not change their eating habits and lifestyle, when they stop taking GLP-1, they will gain all the weight back, plus some usually. Because they go from not being hungry on GLP-1, to hungry all the time without it. They have no self control already (that's why they're taking a weight loss drug), so they eat more = calorie surplus = weight gain. That is a very presumptuous statement. It makes the false assumption that there are not neurophysiological differences that exist from one human being to another This is also why GLP-1's cause a lot of people to lose muscle mass. They aren't eating enough quality food (protein) to sustain muscle, (along with rapid weight loss). Your post was mostly factual with a couple of exceptions |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Your post was mostly factual with a couple of exceptions Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Originally Posted By captnstabn: This isn't true at all. For fat people - It reduces their appetite (in the brain) and slows digestion/food leaving the stomach, leaving them feeling fuller longer. It also stimulates insulin and inhibits glucagon release, which prevents excess glucose production, helping them control blood sugar - For people with diabetes. Also - most T2 diabetics are overweight, so the former helps them as well. When fat people start taking this, it makes them less hungry and they eat less = calorie deficit = weight loss. If they actually had to eat better and exercise, they wouldn't need the GLP-1 at all. This makes the false assumption that there are not biological differences between individuals that may make some people more prone to overeating and less active lifestyle habits than others. If fat people do not change their eating habits and lifestyle, when they stop taking GLP-1, they will gain all the weight back, plus some usually. Because they go from not being hungry on GLP-1, to hungry all the time without it. They have no self control already (that's why they're taking a weight loss drug), so they eat more = calorie surplus = weight gain. That is a very presumptuous statement. It makes the false assumption that there are not neurophysiological differences that exist from one human being to another This is also why GLP-1's cause a lot of people to lose muscle mass. They aren't eating enough quality food (protein) to sustain muscle, (along with rapid weight loss). Your post was mostly factual with a couple of exceptions He's correct. There are some hormonal issues that can be responsible for weight gain (hypoactive thyroid, PCOS in women), but the percentages are relatively small. Like "muh genetics" these physiological excuses are trotted out as rationale for being fat. We've got too many fat people walking around, they make up a significant portion of the population, they aren't all suffering from bad genes. If someone truly does suffer from these issues, I wish them the best (and it can still be corrected). |
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Originally Posted By rob78: He's correct. There are some hormonal issues that can be responsible for weight gain (hypoactive thyroid, PCOS in women), but the percentages are relatively small. Like "muh genetics" these physiological excuses are trotted out as rationale for being fat. We've got too many fat people walking around, they make up a significant portion of the population, they aren't all suffering from bad genes. If someone truly does suffer from these issues, I wish them the best (and it can still be corrected). Originally Posted By rob78: Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Originally Posted By captnstabn: This isn't true at all. For fat people - It reduces their appetite (in the brain) and slows digestion/food leaving the stomach, leaving them feeling fuller longer. It also stimulates insulin and inhibits glucagon release, which prevents excess glucose production, helping them control blood sugar - For people with diabetes. Also - most T2 diabetics are overweight, so the former helps them as well. When fat people start taking this, it makes them less hungry and they eat less = calorie deficit = weight loss. If they actually had to eat better and exercise, they wouldn't need the GLP-1 at all. This makes the false assumption that there are not biological differences between individuals that may make some people more prone to overeating and less active lifestyle habits than others. If fat people do not change their eating habits and lifestyle, when they stop taking GLP-1, they will gain all the weight back, plus some usually. Because they go from not being hungry on GLP-1, to hungry all the time without it. They have no self control already (that's why they're taking a weight loss drug), so they eat more = calorie surplus = weight gain. That is a very presumptuous statement. It makes the false assumption that there are not neurophysiological differences that exist from one human being to another This is also why GLP-1's cause a lot of people to lose muscle mass. They aren't eating enough quality food (protein) to sustain muscle, (along with rapid weight loss). Your post was mostly factual with a couple of exceptions He's correct. There are some hormonal issues that can be responsible for weight gain (hypoactive thyroid, PCOS in women), but the percentages are relatively small. Like "muh genetics" these physiological excuses are trotted out as rationale for being fat. We've got too many fat people walking around, they make up a significant portion of the population, they aren't all suffering from bad genes. If someone truly does suffer from these issues, I wish them the best (and it can still be corrected). Exactly. And in the examples above, you wouldn't take a GLP-1 for weight loss to fix a hormonal issue, you'd address the hormonal issue directly. |
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Originally Posted By rob78: He's correct. There are some hormonal issues that can be responsible for weight gain (hypoactive thyroid, PCOS in women), but the percentages are relatively small. Like "muh genetics" these physiological excuses are trotted out as rationale for being fat. We've got too many fat people walking around, they make up a significant portion of the population, they aren't all suffering from bad genes. If someone truly does suffer from these issues, I wish them the best (and it can still be corrected). Originally Posted By captnstabn: Exactly. And in the examples above, you wouldn't take a GLP-1 for weight loss to fix a hormonal issue, you'd address the hormonal issue directly. Individual physiological differences go beyond “hormones.” There are many factors that we don’t understand and cannot even measure. Perhaps someone has overeaten their entire life. Their neurophysiology has been permanently altered. Even if they manage to change their diet and exercise to the extent that they are able to achieve a healthy weight, that background noise in their brain that tells them to eat or obsess about food never goes away. This is where medicines like GLP-1s can help. Yes, they may have to be taken indefinitely until there is another solution that will help eliminate that background noise in the brain. |
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: Honest question, I don't know anyone who uses these drugs. What happens when you stop taking it? I have to imagine that the vast majority will just balloon back up because they didn't change their lifestyle. Like with all things in life… you’re gonna have to be accountable for your actions… I don’t plan on ever going back to being over 300 pounds. I’m trying to lose another 50 Your gonna have to sit down with yourself and say “it’s time for a complete lifestyle change” |
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Originally Posted By Dorcas: @The_HKFanboy Can I ask what you started at? My doctor has been trying to convince me to get on Zepbound, and I've been avoiding it. The dose goes all the way to 15mgs. The doctors start you off with 2mgs and bump you up every months. You get 4 shots and you take one every week Be warned… insurance companies are starting to complained about paying for the shots and the whole logic of it is pissing me off |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Individual physiological differences go beyond “hormones.” There are many factors that we don’t understand and cannot even measure. Perhaps someone has overeaten their entire life. Their neurophysiology has been permanently altered. Even if they manage to change their diet and exercise to the extent that they are able to achieve a healthy weight, that background noise in their brain that tells them to eat or obsess about food never goes away. This is where medicines like GLP-1s can help. Yes, they may have to be taken indefinitely until there is another solution that will help eliminate that background noise in the brain. If they had self control, they could just ignore the noise, but they don't. Fortunately, there are several peptides that can give undisciplined people the opportunity to not be fat. Not sure why you have a problem with that? |
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I have taken Zepbound since 9/9/24. I was 271 that day. I got it prescribed and through a prior authorization because I was pre-diabetic, high cholesterol, high blood pressure. This was all from my 1st ever physical at age 41. I’ve lost 100 lbs on it. I’m fluctuating between 169-173 most days. My original PA was only approved until March ‘25, and by that point i was already 175ish. I knew it wouldn't be approved again so I made a choice to start doing shots every 3 weeks in January and made it a point to fill the script on the 21st day, which allowed me to build up a supply. I should note I never went above 5mg. I have 2 shots left. This drug changed my life, no denying it. I put in a lot of work but this tool was invaluable. I made it a point to weigh myself daily, measure my food and document everything i put in my mouth. My workouts have varied greatly depending on what kept my interest most at the time and also due to the fact that I was dealing with a hernia during this time. My plan for being completely off will not change from what Ive been doing. Daily weighing, logging food, and regular workouts will continue. Fingers crossed the drug was a temporary crutch, one that Ive been grateful for. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: If they had self control, they could just ignore the noise, but they don't. Fortunately, there are several peptides that can give undisciplined people the opportunity to not be fat. Not sure why you have a problem with that? It’s ok that you don’t know what you don’t know. Bless your heart |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: It’s ok that you don’t know what you don’t know. Bless your heart Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Originally Posted By chibajoe: If they had self control, they could just ignore the noise, but they don't. Fortunately, there are several peptides that can give undisciplined people the opportunity to not be fat. Not sure why you have a problem with that? It’s ok that you don’t know what you don’t know. Bless your heart LOL. Someone being honest about how it is and someone got their feelings hurt. Now the person with hurt feelings because they are somehow way to emotionally invested in this tells the guys spewing facts they are beneath him in intelligence. What a place good old arfcom has become. LOL |
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Originally Posted By MManson: I have taken Zepbound since 9/9/24. I was 271 that day. I got it prescribed and through a prior authorization because I was pre-diabetic, high cholesterol, high blood pressure. This was all from my 1st ever physical at age 41. I’ve lost 100 lbs on it. I’m fluctuating between 169-173 most days. My original PA was only approved until March ‘25, and by that point i was already 175ish. I knew it wouldn't be approved again so I made a choice to start doing shots every 3 weeks in January and made it a point to fill the script on the 21st day, which allowed me to build up a supply. I should note I never went above 5mg. I have 2 shots left. This drug changed my life, no denying it. I put in a lot of work but this tool was invaluable. I made it a point to weigh myself daily, measure my food and document everything i put in my mouth. My workouts have varied greatly depending on what kept my interest most at the time and also due to the fact that I was dealing with a hernia during this time. My plan for being completely off will not change from what Ive been doing. Daily weighing, logging food, and regular workouts will continue. Fingers crossed the drug was a temporary crutch, one that Ive been grateful for. Thank you for contributing to this thread with meaningful information from your own personal experience. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: I don't understand why these drugs trigger some so much. Because they let people who lack discipline and self control escape the consequences of their actions. That pisses off people who are petty and vindictive.  Same people get all bent out of shape in the keto threads; it's that whole "you need to atone and suffer punishment for your sins" mentality. |
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: Because they let people who lack discipline and self control escape the consequences of their actions. That pisses off people who are petty and vindictive. Same people get all bent out of shape in the keto threads; it's that whole "you need to atone and suffer punishment for your sins" mentality. Pretty close, I'd say. I saw a GD poster in a GLP thread say that obesity was an indicator of a weak relationship with God, so fat people needed faith, not meds. He was dead serious. Conservatives have a problem with tying every damn thing to morality, or a lack thereof. I think it's also insecure people who think being thin makes them "better" than obese people. They see GLP-1 drugs as taking away that differentiator, and they just don't have anything else. It's a direct attack their perception of their status in society, hence the seemingly irrational response. |
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Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: Like with all things in life… you’re gonna have to be accountable for your actions… I don’t plan on ever going back to being over 300 pounds. I’m trying to lose another 50 Your gonna have to sit down with yourself and say “it’s time for a complete lifestyle change” Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: Honest question, I don't know anyone who uses these drugs. What happens when you stop taking it? I have to imagine that the vast majority will just balloon back up because they didn't change their lifestyle. Like with all things in life… you’re gonna have to be accountable for your actions… I don’t plan on ever going back to being over 300 pounds. I’m trying to lose another 50 Your gonna have to sit down with yourself and say “it’s time for a complete lifestyle change” Not asking for myself, lol. I'm 6'1" and about 175# |
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Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: The dose goes all the way to 15mgs. The doctors start you off with 2mgs and bump you up every months. You get 4 shots and you take one every week Be warned… insurance companies are starting to complained about paying for the shots and the whole logic of it is pissing me off Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: Originally Posted By Dorcas: @The_HKFanboy Can I ask what you started at? My doctor has been trying to convince me to get on Zepbound, and I've been avoiding it. The dose goes all the way to 15mgs. The doctors start you off with 2mgs and bump you up every months. You get 4 shots and you take one every week Be warned… insurance companies are starting to complained about paying for the shots and the whole logic of it is pissing me off Yeah, I just checked my coverage. I don't qualify for Mounjaro or Ozempic because my A1c isn't high enough (yet). I qualify for Zepbound due to my health, but they don't cover it. |
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Originally Posted By Dorcas: Yeah, I just checked my coverage. I don't qualify for Mounjaro or Ozempic because my A1c isn't high enough (yet). I qualify for Zepbound due to my health, but they don't cover it. Originally Posted By Dorcas: Originally Posted By The_HKFanboy: Originally Posted By Dorcas: @The_HKFanboy Can I ask what you started at? My doctor has been trying to convince me to get on Zepbound, and I've been avoiding it. The dose goes all the way to 15mgs. The doctors start you off with 2mgs and bump you up every months. You get 4 shots and you take one every week Be warned… insurance companies are starting to complained about paying for the shots and the whole logic of it is pissing me off Yeah, I just checked my coverage. I don't qualify for Mounjaro or Ozempic because my A1c isn't high enough (yet). I qualify for Zepbound due to my health, but they don't cover it. You say "yet" like you know you will eventually be worse. You do realize - you don't need the drug, you can start today, right now, and take control of your life. Make changes and get healthy. |
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Originally Posted By Dorcas: Yeah, I just checked my coverage. I don't qualify for Mounjaro or Ozempic because my A1c isn't high enough (yet). I qualify for Zepbound due to my health, but they don't cover it. If you will read back through this thread, you will see where you can purchase (at least for the time being) tirzepatide or semaglutide in the powder form at reasonable prices and reconstitute it yourself. |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: It’s ok that you don’t know what you don’t know. Bless your heart Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: Originally Posted By chibajoe: If they had self control, they could just ignore the noise, but they don't. Fortunately, there are several peptides that can give undisciplined people the opportunity to not be fat. Not sure why you have a problem with that? It’s ok that you don’t know what you don’t know. Bless your heart I don't know why you are being so defensive. I'm just stating facts, not trying to denigrate anybody. Life is hard; there's no shame in using any available means to make it easier. Nobody's blaming an alcoholic for going to AA meetings because they can't kick the habit on their own; same (should) goes for obesity. Hell, if there was a peptide that could stop me from wasting half my life playing video games, I'd take it in a heartbeat. 
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Originally Posted By chibajoe: I don't know why you are being so defensive. I'm just stating facts, not trying to denigrate anybody. Life is hard; there's no shame in using any available means to make it easier. Nobody's blaming an alcoholic for going to AA meetings because they can't kick the habit on their own; same (should) goes for obesity. Hell, if there was a peptide that could stop me from wasting half my life playing video games, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I was just trying to illustrate the point that some people’s brains are wired differently and function differently. There are some people who are unwilling and or unable to accept that or admit that. They believe that everyone should be able to solve any problem with discipline and willpower. It just isn’t that simple, An analogy: I am sitting in a room trying to do a task that requires concentration. I can hear a baby crying constantly in an adjacent room. This is very annoying and distracting, and I could just give up and accept the consequences. I instead decide to trudge forward. I endure physical discomfort as a result of the less than desirable environment, but I manage to complete my task in a satisfactory manner but of lesser quality than I could have produced otherwise. I had noise canceling headphones available, but I chose not to use them. Why not use every tool available to us? One theory on part of the reasons they are helpful, is that GLP-1s mitigate the desire for excess. Perhaps they could help with the excessive playing of video games? |
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: I was just trying to illustrate the point that some people’s brains are wired differently and function differently. There are some people who are unwilling and or unable to accept that or admit that. They believe that everyone should be able to solve any problem with discipline and willpower. It just isn’t that simple, An analogy: I am sitting in a room trying to do a task that requires concentration. I can hear a baby crying constantly in an adjacent room. This is very annoying and distracting, and I could just give up and accept the consequences. I instead decide to trudge forward. I endure physical discomfort as a result of the less than desirable environment, but I manage to complete my task in a satisfactory manner but of lesser quality than I could have produced otherwise. I had noise canceling headphones available, but I chose not to use them. Why not use every tool available to us? One theory on part of the reasons they are helpful, is that GLP-1s mitigate the desire for excess. Perhaps they could help with the excessive playing of video games? That's one of the better analogies I've ever heard to support the use of GLP drugs for the overweight/obese population. Well done. |
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Originally Posted By rollin-tumblin: That's one of the better analogies I've ever heard to support the use of GLP drugs for the overweight/obese population. Well done. Originally Posted By rollin-tumblin: Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: I was just trying to illustrate the point that some people’s brains are wired differently and function differently. There are some people who are unwilling and or unable to accept that or admit that. They believe that everyone should be able to solve any problem with discipline and willpower. It just isn’t that simple, An analogy: I am sitting in a room trying to do a task that requires concentration. I can hear a baby crying constantly in an adjacent room. This is very annoying and distracting, and I could just give up and accept the consequences. I instead decide to trudge forward. I endure physical discomfort as a result of the less than desirable environment, but I manage to complete my task in a satisfactory manner but of lesser quality than I could have produced otherwise. I had noise canceling headphones available, but I chose not to use them. Why not use every tool available to us? One theory on part of the reasons they are helpful, is that GLP-1s mitigate the desire for excess. Perhaps they could help with the excessive playing of video games? That's one of the better analogies I've ever heard to support the use of GLP drugs for the overweight/obese population. Well done. Not to throw fuel on this slap fest but I also think there is something in the food supply in the US. Little background here I'm a gym rat for a long time weight is not my issue I'm in this thread becuase peptides and numerous weight lifting injuries trying to stay healthy Back to my point I was in France for business for a week. We were sequestered in the countryside so not a lot of walking and I had to eat what was served. A lot of rich food breads etc I just gave up because one I didn't have a choice and two the food was damn good. I lost nearly 5 pounds. I was even drinking diet cokes because jet lag and i needed caffiene to stay awake. I've talked to others and they've had the same experience. One family has kids with bad food allergies and the kids could eat anything without issue in France. Anecdotal I know but I think RFK has some points and it's time to take a hard look at our food supply. |
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https://youtu.be/57OyIDnHZAk?si=26IeYGIX5PVgkT3D My wife played this for me and it was enlightening about obesity as a chronic illness. I'm down 30# in four months and feel great, running for the first time in years. Check out Simple Peptide and do some research for dosing. |
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Not to throw fuel on this slap fest but I also think there is something in the food supply in the US. Little background here I'm a gym rat for a long time weight is not my issue I'm in this thread becuase peptides and numerous weight lifting injuries trying to stay healthy Back to my point I was in France for business for a week. We were sequestered in the countryside so not a lot of walking and I had to eat what was served. A lot of rich food breads etc I just gave up because one I didn't have a choice and two the food was damn good. I lost nearly 5 pounds. I was even drinking diet cokes because jet lag and i needed caffiene to stay awake. I've talked to others and they've had the same experience. One family has kids with bad food allergies and the kids could eat anything without issue in France. Anecdotal I know but I think RFK has some points and it's time to take a hard look at our food supply. Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Originally Posted By rollin-tumblin: Originally Posted By tonysoprano150: I was just trying to illustrate the point that some people’s brains are wired differently and function differently. There are some people who are unwilling and or unable to accept that or admit that. They believe that everyone should be able to solve any problem with discipline and willpower. It just isn’t that simple, An analogy: I am sitting in a room trying to do a task that requires concentration. I can hear a baby crying constantly in an adjacent room. This is very annoying and distracting, and I could just give up and accept the consequences. I instead decide to trudge forward. I endure physical discomfort as a result of the less than desirable environment, but I manage to complete my task in a satisfactory manner but of lesser quality than I could have produced otherwise. I had noise canceling headphones available, but I chose not to use them. Why not use every tool available to us? One theory on part of the reasons they are helpful, is that GLP-1s mitigate the desire for excess. Perhaps they could help with the excessive playing of video games? That's one of the better analogies I've ever heard to support the use of GLP drugs for the overweight/obese population. Well done. Not to throw fuel on this slap fest but I also think there is something in the food supply in the US. Little background here I'm a gym rat for a long time weight is not my issue I'm in this thread becuase peptides and numerous weight lifting injuries trying to stay healthy Back to my point I was in France for business for a week. We were sequestered in the countryside so not a lot of walking and I had to eat what was served. A lot of rich food breads etc I just gave up because one I didn't have a choice and two the food was damn good. I lost nearly 5 pounds. I was even drinking diet cokes because jet lag and i needed caffiene to stay awake. I've talked to others and they've had the same experience. One family has kids with bad food allergies and the kids could eat anything without issue in France. Anecdotal I know but I think RFK has some points and it's time to take a hard look at our food supply. When you need a masters in chemistry just to pronounce half the shit in the grocery store, there's a big fuckin problem. Everybody here hates doing things like Europe, but this is one place they are 100% right. Eliminate synthetic dyes and strictly limit or eliminate the use of highly processed additives. |
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Originally Posted By BigB32: Are the pills worthwhile or a you going to get the best results if injected? I'm curious how this would be fore neck pain and minor herniated discs. I assume you are speaking of BP-157. It is found in the gut naturally and is involved in repair of intestinal lining. It is not however readily absorbed into the bloodstream at apreciable amounts to be effective elsewhere in the body. To get the results you desire, you would really need to do subcutaneous injections. |
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