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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:22:49 AM EDT
[#1]
I can see teats in the dark....? tell me more.
 I'm in the market for entry level night vision as well.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:33:24 AM EDT
[#2]
My hunger. Can only be satisfied through more inexpensive NV info
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:34:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be funny, if things actually go to shit and there's a bunch of people with IR illum devices showing everybody else with the same stuff, where they are.  Theoretically, if one were using relatively cheap digital NV that needs IR to work best, and were up against some other users of similar cheap digital NV, if you were first to turn off your own IR, would you still have an advantage seeing the still-active IR of the others? In Minecraft, of course. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:48:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Theoretically, if one were using relatively cheap digital NV that needs IR to work best, and were up against some other users of similar cheap digital NV, if you were first to turn off your own IR, would you still have an advantage seeing the still-active IR of the others? In Minecraft, of course. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It would be funny, if things actually go to shit and there's a bunch of people with IR illum devices showing everybody else with the same stuff, where they are. Theoretically, if one were using relatively cheap digital NV that needs IR to work best, and were up against some other users of similar cheap digital NV, if you were first to turn off your own IR, would you still have an advantage seeing the still-active IR of the others? In Minecraft, of course. It would look like they were shining a flashlight around. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:54:41 AM EDT
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I'm semi interested. I already have a cheap mono that my son would LOVE. Got if for like $120.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:05:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Range finder?
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:07:28 PM EDT
[#7]
If things go bad, and it looks like they are, it seems like even the cheap stuff would be a huge step up over nothing.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Theoretically, if one were using relatively cheap digital NV that needs IR to work best, and were up against some other users of similar cheap digital NV, if you were first to turn off your own IR, would you still have an advantage seeing the still-active IR of the others? In Minecraft, of course. Yeah and lots of outdoor security cameras have constant IR. Looks like a damn spot of daylight. Sticks out like nipples in a wet white shirt |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If things go bad, and it looks like they are, it seems like even the cheap stuff would be a huge step up over nothing. Most people are Kyle Rittenhouse. Maybe in GD the operator competition is tight but out in the real world half the gun owners own a basic sling and red dot and nothing more. To deck out a person with less than $1000 in equipment would be a great idea going forward. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:32:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If things go bad, and it looks like they are, it seems like even the cheap stuff would be a huge step up over nothing. I am far from an expert on NV or fighting day or night. I know just enough to know that having the stuff is a small part of the equation. Getting out and practicing with it is a big deal. Otherwise you're a fumbling, bumbling, goofball, stumbling around in the dark with some gadgets and guns. Competent training, then practice/experience. I'm still learning shit I didn't know that I didn't know. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got this exact unit under another brand for $130. Checkout out 704 Tactical on YT, he did a review and may still have a discount code. Found the video. For the price, I think it's worth the gamble on them. Thanks |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:13:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Someone with cheap digital night vision who practices ir discipline can upgrade from the person with expensive nv who doesn't. If you have patience, you can see others without being seen.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:17:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Found the video. For the price, I think it's worth the gamble on them. Thanks @Underscore20 Link? Is it the 1x, 75 yd one? Really like 200-300 yds, predator calling Thx |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:37:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Found the video. For the price, I think it's worth the gamble on them. Thanks Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just got this exact unit under another brand for $130. Checkout out 704 Tactical on YT, he did a review and may still have a discount code. Found the video. For the price, I think it's worth the gamble on them. Thanks Link please? |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve got one of the SiOnyx...tagged for interest.  Heh! |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’ve got one of the SiOnyx...tagged for interest. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14562/20200318_213241-1322358.jpg Heh! Opinions? Durability? Usability? |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 7:52:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: I just wanted to share some info that may be useful. My wife got me some night vision bino's for Christmas and I have been really impressed with them. They are from Creative XP, called the Glass Owl Pro. Look them up, they have good ratings, almost 800 5 star reviews. I thought they were going to be some cheesy gimmick but wow, these things work great and can be had for $299. I have used them around my farm and watched cows and coyotes walking thru the pasture at almost 400 yards. At 200 yards I watched pigs eating the hay right along with the cows. The clarity was surprising, I could see them clear enough that I saw the spots on the pigs and saw that one sow had big full teats hanging down. They are certainly worth their price IMO and cheap enough to buy as an extra set if you already have night vision. https://creative-xp.com/products/creativexp-digital-night-vision-binoculars-for-100-darkness-save-photos-videos-with-audio https://blog.dealoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CreativeXP-Glass-Owl.jpg YouTube review showing it in action You think they could be helmet mounted to go hands free
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Posted: 1/9/2021 8:07:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Link please? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just got this exact unit under another brand for $130. Checkout out 704 Tactical on YT, he did a review and may still have a discount code. Found the video. For the price, I think it's worth the gamble on them. Thanks Link please? For the poors....two affordable new digital NV tech options: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYLU4kp6n4M |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 10:03:34 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I quoted it for you so you can see it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In the videos posted they are filming in the country in a dark ass area...or indoors with no light  Quoted: Um its digital i needs lots of IR no one is saying it doesn't. I quoted it for you so you can see it. If you cant figure it out when we say no light we are talking about regular day to day light not IR light which is normally not being described when we talk about turning on the lights....
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:21:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone with cheap digital night vision who practices ir discipline can upgrade from the person with expensive nv who doesn't. If you have patience, you can see others without being seen. scope @lorazepam Do you have any experience with that scope? I have wondered how good it is. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:31:50 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For the poors....two affordable new digital NV tech options: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYLU4kp6n4M Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just got this exact unit under another brand for $130. Checkout out 704 Tactical on YT, he did a review and may still have a discount code. Found the video. For the price, I think it's worth the gamble on them. Thanks Link please? For the poors....two affordable new digital NV tech options: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DYLU4kp6n4M $253 for a cheap bump helmet, mount, mount hardware and night vision.... I might fo
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:37:29 PM EDT
[#22]
I have an ATN X-sight. There seems to be a lot of hate for it here but it works pretty well. The Sightmark as the same features, but is lighter. They work well for what they are, a scope that allows you to hunt at night or day.
They really are the future, but not there yet. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:38:53 PM EDT
[#23]
Ill just get a pair of PVS-7 if my stocks pan out well.
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:59:24 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ill just get a pair of PVS-7 if my stocks pan out well. I have a pvs-14 I use at work.... need something at the house...
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Posted: 1/10/2021 12:15:59 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an ATN X-sight. There seems to be a lot of hate for it here but it works pretty well. The Sightmark as the same features, but is lighter. They work well for what they are, a scope that allows you to hunt at night or day. They really are the future, but not there yet. Same here. I like the X-sight I have. I also have a ruskie NV weapon sight that is surprisingly good. Pawn shop find... 20 bucks.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 12:16:36 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a pvs-14 I use at work.... need something at the house... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ill just get a pair of PVS-7 if my stocks pan out well. I have a pvs-14 I use at work.... need something at the house... I like the PVS 7's with a good tube. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 2:18:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think they could be helmet mounted to go hands free Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just wanted to share some info that may be useful. My wife got me some night vision bino's for Christmas and I have been really impressed with them. They are from Creative XP, called the Glass Owl Pro. Look them up, they have good ratings, almost 800 5 star reviews. I thought they were going to be some cheesy gimmick but wow, these things work great and can be had for $299. I have used them around my farm and watched cows and coyotes walking thru the pasture at almost 400 yards. At 200 yards I watched pigs eating the hay right along with the cows. The clarity was surprising, I could see them clear enough that I saw the spots on the pigs and saw that one sow had big full teats hanging down. They are certainly worth their price IMO and cheap enough to buy as an extra set if you already have night vision. https://creative-xp.com/products/creativexp-digital-night-vision-binoculars-for-100-darkness-save-photos-videos-with-audio https://blog.dealoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CreativeXP-Glass-Owl.jpg YouTube review showing it in action You think they could be helmet mounted to go hands free if someone could make an adapter to attach to the tripod attachment point on the bottom, they probably could |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 3:20:18 PM EDT
[#28]
Can any of these helmet mounted units be used while wearing glasses?
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Posted: 1/10/2021 3:29:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They make these elk look like a coyote. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33050/Screenshot_2021-01-09_GlassOwl_PRO_-_Nig-1771156.JPG 
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Posted: 1/10/2021 10:40:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: if someone could make an adapter to attach to the tripod attachment point on the bottom, they probably could Good Idea!
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:43:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone with cheap digital night vision who practices ir discipline can upgrade from the person with expensive nv who doesn't. If you have patience, you can see others without being seen. scope This looks like a decent purchase. Does anyone have any firsthand experience they can share? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 2:12:24 PM EDT
[#32]
Can you use them to look through a window or must they be used outside?
I have IR lights all around my house so can I just look through the glass with these and see? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 3:19:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you use them to look through a window or must they be used outside? I have IR lights all around my house so can I just look through the glass with these and see? night vision will look through glass (but you can see some reflections). Thermal will 100% be stopped by glass |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 5:18:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
night vision will look through glass (but you can see some reflections). Thermal will 100% be stopped by glass |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 5:24:33 PM EDT
[#35]
Bit off topic but what about a quadcopter equipped with a thermal camera? Would be very useful for hunting in minecraft right?
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Posted: 1/11/2021 5:45:08 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can any of these helmet mounted units be used while wearing glasses? I can't see shit without reading glasses up close but was able to focus both NV and thermal so I could see. |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 4:42:59 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: night vision will look through glass (but you can see some reflections). Thermal will 100% be stopped by glass Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can you use them to look through a window or must they be used outside? I have IR lights all around my house so can I just look through the glass with these and see? night vision will look through glass (but you can see some reflections). Thermal will 100% be stopped by glass Unless that glass is a mirror and reflecting the image off of it. Thermal can see reflections in a mirror. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:10:18 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $253 for a cheap bump helmet, mount, mount hardware and night vision.... I might fo
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Posted: 1/13/2021 9:53:52 AM EDT
[#39]
I fo'ed on the Glass Owl Pro. Should be here today.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:14:54 AM EDT
[#40]
I have the nightfox 110R cost me about $140.00 Works pretty good for what it is. Comes with the GoPro type mount on top and a tripod mount on the bottom. It has 7X magnification + up to 2 times digital zoom. With the 7x mag it isnt really good for walking around though
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:15:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the nightfox 110R cost me about $140.00 Works pretty good for what it is. Comes with the GoPro type mount on top and a tripod mount on the bottom. It has 7X magnification + up to 2 times digital zoom. With the 7x mag it isnt really good for walking around though That's my only complaint with the Glass Owl. You can alternate between about 3x and 7x. Neither is really great for walking around, but they're binoculars, not goggles. I got it yesterday and took it out for a bit. It worked incredibly well outside. I get it that there are better options for a lot more money, but I'm very pleased with my purchase. I was able to clearly see things like a shed and a boat that I couldn't even see the outline of with the naked eye. Very nice. Hopefully my days of wandering in circles trying to find my deer stand are over. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:18:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's my only complaint with the Glass Owl. You can alternate between about 3x and 7x. Neither is really great for walking around, but they're binoculars, not goggles. I got it yesterday and took it out for a bit. It worked incredibly well outside. I get it that there are better options for a lot more money, but I'm very pleased with my purchase. I was able to clearly see things like a shed and a boat that I couldn't even see the outline of with the naked eye. Very nice. Hopefully my days of wandering in circles trying to find my deer stand are over. NightFox Cape or Swift is way better and with way better customer support. The company replies on Youtube comments on 704tactical usually when he reviews them. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bit off topic but what about a quadcopter equipped with a thermal camera? Would be very useful for hunting in minecraft right? https://www.wideopenspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Stalk-Final-630x339.jpg this is what I am thinking. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:26:41 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: this is what I am thinking. Will have to dish out 5k or more for a DJI with a FLIR or like 2k for a shittier drone. Will be useful for recon in minecraft though for findings creepers and zombies. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:27:32 AM EDT
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Guys these use a solid state camera detector with the infrared filter removed. In essence a less well made variant of the Bushnell Equinox series.
You are much, much better off buying a Sionyx sport, Black, Aurora or if you want to stretch out a bit a Pro. All of these can operate at 1x - essential if you want to walk around looking through them. The Black, Aurora and Pro are 5.56 rated. The Aurora and Pro have additional features such as built in GPS. The Pro can operate passively at much lower light than the Sport, Black and Aurora.  The above is an example of the Pro in use without any form of illuminator and on a no moon night - the images on the right are from a Gen2+ device taken at the same time. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:48:12 AM EDT
[#46]
I got the same set for Christmas from my girlfriend OP.
I am also in SWOK. I need to confirm that my gf is not your wife. They do work well for what they are. My gf and your wife did good. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:43:56 AM EDT
[#47]
About 10 years ago, my wife and I bought my son one of the SpyNet night vision binoculars for his birthday. I think they were $40-ish.
I figured they would be junk, but they were honest to goodness IR digital night vision. Using the built in IR illuminator, I could easily see everything in my backyard with no other illumination. I bought an IR filter for a Streamlight Scorpion (incandescent, not LED) and with that light also throwing more illumination, I could see into the neighbors back yard easily. Yes, its a toy, but it works. You can see in the dark with it. Yes, I'm a poor. I'm not an afrcom millionaire. I drive a 17 year old Honda, my wife isn't a supermodel and work for a living. There's no way I can afford PVS-14 or even PVS-7 NV. I might be able to swing $200, but I would have to save for it. Until I can do that, this junky kids toy is going to have to do. Switching gears slightly, video security systems with IR illuminators are exponentially growing in my neighborhood. More and more of my neighbors are getting systems and cameras every day. Looking through the toy NV binos, you can see the IR illuminators on many of the houses on my street. So what I'm saying is that someone with IR night vision, looking at one area and not swinging the IR back and forth has a good chance of blending into the IR background "noise." |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:00:33 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: About 10 years ago, my wife and I bought my son one of the SpyNet night vision binoculars for his birthday. I think they were $40-ish. I figured they would be junk, but they were honest to goodness IR digital night vision. Using the built in IR illuminator, I could easily see everything in my backyard with no other illumination. I bought an IR filter for a Streamlight Scorpion (incandescent, not LED) and with that light also throwing more illumination, I could see into the neighbors back yard easily. Yes, its a toy, but it works. You can see in the dark with it. Yes, I'm a poor. I'm not an afrcom millionaire. I drive a 17 year old Honda, my wife isn't a supermodel and work for a living. There's no way I can afford PVS-14 or even PVS-7 NV. I might be able to swing $200, but I would have to save for it. Until I can do that, this junky kids toy is going to have to do. Switching gears slightly, video security systems with IR illuminators are exponentially growing in my neighborhood. More and more of my neighbors are getting systems and cameras every day. Looking through the toy NV binos, you can see the IR illuminators on many of the houses on my street. So what I'm saying is that someone with IR night vision, looking at one area and not swinging the IR back and forth has a good chance of blending into the IR background "noise." We have an old set of those lying around; like you, we bought it for our son years ago. They do work; for indoor purposes, they're okay. Outdoors, if you're looking more than a few yards away, they're not so great. Plus they're definitely not "hands free". |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:38:24 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $253 for a cheap bump helmet, mount, mount hardware and night vision.... I might fo Where are you seeing that combo deal? |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 2:31:16 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just did. Where did you see that combo deal? |
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