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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:04:24 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:06:55 AM EST
A step in the right direction

Having to have a permit is gay
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:10:20 AM EST
I totally read that wrong.  I thought eliminated meant “won’t allow you to obtain one anymore”.  Now what do I do with my outrage?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:10:23 AM EST
I had an option to transfer to Indiana too.



Good on you guys!
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:15:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
The Indiana House voted Monday to eliminate the license to carry a handgun in the state -- an apparent victory, at least temporary, for supporters of Second Amendment gun rights.

House Bill 1369, which passed the House by a 65-31 vote and now heads to the Senate, repeals a law that requires a person to obtain a license to carry a handgun in Indiana, according to the Indianapolis Star

It allows for any person who is lawfully able to carry and possess a firearm to do so without a government-issued permit or license, reports said. The bill specified that certain offenders still could be prohibited from carrying handguns.

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Police, however, argued that eliminating screening processes would put more guns on the streets, making communities less safe.

"I think we are all very strong supporters of the second amendment," said Lafayette Police Chief Patrick Flannelly with the Indiana Association of Chiefs of Police. "By repealing processes like this that are good screening mechanisms, we are going to put more guns out on the street, and there are going to be people that should not be carrying them will be carrying them."

Currently, to apply for a new Indiana license to carry a handgun, you have to be 18 or older, register online, schedule an appointment to have your fingerprints taken, and complete local law enforcement agency processing within 180 days.

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Out of the more than 120,000 handgun license applicants in 2020, nearly 4% were denied, according to state data. Flannelly said his department denied 55 people from getting carry permits last year based on their background check.

"We are going to remove a tool from our law enforcement officers to help make communities safer and actually help keep our police officers safer," he told the station.

The licenses raise $5.3 million per year to train local law enforcement officers, and taxpayers will be forced to partially pick up the bill, the paper reported.

Critics also argue that it won't be easy for police to check if someone is allowed to carry a firearm. or check on those who try to carry when they aren't supposed to, according to the Indianapolis Star.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-house-votes-to-repeal-need-for-gun-permits

I really wish they would just come out and say, 1) permit systems allows us to easier bust gang members we catch carrying guns when we don't have any other charges, 2) that sweet permit money is used for funding our pet projects.
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That bolded part....
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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:19:18 AM EST
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:20:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.
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You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:20:13 AM EST
About time, and we'll see if it gets past the next step.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:20:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chase45:


You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
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Originally Posted By chase45:
Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.


You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
Well then... awesome-sauce!
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:23:24 AM EST
This needs to be every state. Had our chance a few years ago when we controlled everything...

How nice it would be to carry wherever, whenever
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:24:57 AM EST
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You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.


You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes

So their headline and wording in the article is bullshit. The license wasn't eliminated, the requirement of a license to carry concealed was removed.  
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:25:19 AM EST
Now only if gov hot wheels would get this done Texas.  I do wonder what the implications will be for background checks with valid CHL?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:26:26 AM EST

Why do Indiana police hate freedom?

Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:26:35 AM EST
South Carolina votes today for open carry. Open carry is dumb but *fingers crossed*.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:27:56 AM EST
The Senate split is 39R/11D. No reason this shouldn't pass.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:29:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:

So their headline and wording in the article is bullshit. The license wasn't eliminated, the requirement of a license to carry concealed was removed.  
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That would be more correct yes

They also eliminated the cost associated with the shorter term permits already. The only permit that costs money is the 'lifetime' permit. Then again I guess if youre going to get a pistol permit why wouldnt you get a lifetime to begin with.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:31:08 AM EST
Police, however, argued that eliminating screening processes would put more guns on the streets, making communities less safe.
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They trot out the same old talking points every single time and they end up not only not being true, but often times the opposite happens.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:32:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By davidb1982:
This needs to be every state. Had our chance a few years ago when we controlled everything...

How nice it would be to carry wherever, whenever
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Good ol' Lyin' Ryan.

Fucking shitstain RINO bastard.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:32:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By davidb1982:
This needs to be every state. Had our chance a few years ago when we controlled everything...

How nice it would be to carry wherever, whenever
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We could have had it here if Cuchinelli had been elected but too many low info voters believed the left’s talking points about banning blow jobs.

Now VA is going to opposite direction.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:35:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SamBram:
The Senate split is 39R/11D. No reason this shouldn't pass.
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How many of these state senators aspire to be like Mittens "Rimjob" Romney or Mcshitstain?
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There will be BLOOD in the streets!®
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:42:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chase45:
A step in the right direction

Having to have a permit is gay
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Yup. Hopefully one day, my state will de-FUDD itself enough to get constitutional carry passed.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:48:51 AM EST
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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:59:21 AM EST
Indiana license fees have been cut several times over the past few years, 5 year carry is free and you can get a lifetime carry license for cheap.  There can't really be that much income from them.

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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:59:55 AM EST
I don't care about "communities being less safe," I only care about me and mine. So I carry a gun.

Total bullshit talking point.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:02:12 AM EST
...   "I think we are all very strong supporters of the second amendment," said Lafayette Police Chief Patrick Flannelly with the Indiana Association of Chiefs of Police. "By repealing processes like this that are good screening mechanisms, we are going to put more guns out on the street, and there are going to be people that should not be carrying them will be carrying them."   ...
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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:11:00 AM EST
LOL Permits
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:16:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By markl32:


Why do American police hate freedom?

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Fixed it for ya.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:19:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chase45:


You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.


You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes


Yup.  A CCL is still a good idea to get too.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:57:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RHR_12:
I totally read that wrong.  I thought eliminated meant “won’t allow you to obtain one anymore”.  Now what do I do with my outrage?
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Me too!

I was already re-routing my travel plans!
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:59:33 AM EST
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You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.


You can still get a permit for that reason if this bill passes
This, and the 5 year permit is free to obtain
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:03:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Police, however, argued that eliminating screening processes would put more guns on the streets, making communities less safe.
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This quote caught my attention.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:04:01 AM EST
Good. It’s coming up for a vote here soon as well but I suspect the city dweller votes will undermine it. That’s racist of course but they won’t admit it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:05:53 AM EST
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...   "I think we are all very strong supporters of the second amendment," said Lafayette Police Chief Patrick Flannelly with the Indiana Association of Chiefs of Police. "By repealing processes like this that are good screening mechanisms, we are going to put more guns out on the street, and there are going to be people that should not be carrying them will be carrying them."   ...


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And who are those people to this guy?

I say let every legal person go armed all day long. I do like that  training was part of the permit process here but shall not be infringed.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:09:14 AM EST
Good job IN!



MI you're slacking.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:10:43 AM EST
Lived in IN for a few years.  Had a permit there too.  They requires zero training, just submit you paperwork and pay the fee.  Also had a lifetime permit option.

I think this is why IN had a low reciprocity rate with other states.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:10:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:


Police, however, argued that eliminating screening processes would put more guns on the streets, making communities less safe.

"I think we are all very strong supporters of the second amendment," said Lafayette Police Chief Patrick Flannelly with the Indiana Association of Chiefs of Police. "By repealing processes like this that are good screening mechanisms, we are going to put more guns out on the street, and there are going to be people that should not be carrying them will be carrying them."


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OH NOES!!!!!!! BLOOD WILL RUN LIKE A RIVER IN THE STREETS!!!!!   IT"S GOING TO BECOME THE WILD WEST!!!!

not this crap again.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:11:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.
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You can still get a LTC for this purpose.

It didnt do away with it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:11:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By StewartTR:
Lived in IN for a few years.  Had a permit there too.  They requires zero training, just submit you paperwork and pay the fee.  Also had a lifetime permit option.

I think this is why IN had a low reciprocity rate with other states.
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This is true

My KY permit reached much further
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:13:08 AM EST
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Why do Indiana police hate freedom?

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They probably had to shop around to find a douche like that in Indiana.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:13:37 AM EST
KY did the same a few years ago. I keep mine up to date just to make purchasing easier/quicker.

No blood in the streets yet.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:19:25 AM EST
I'm moving to Indiana in a couple months and was worried about going through the process of getting a permit all over again so this is good news.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:19:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Capt_Rhodes:
I'm moving to Indiana in a couple months and was worried about going through the process of getting a permit all over again so this is good news.
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If passed wont go into effect until 3/2022
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:20:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Indiana license fees have been cut several times over the past few years, 5 year carry is free and you can get a lifetime carry license for cheap.  There can't really be that much income from them.

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They have been refusing to process them lately because of 'covid'.....
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:20:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
My only gripe is how this would impact reciprocity for those traveling without an LTCH.  But that probably won't impact those of us with a lifetime LTCH.
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If you want those benefits you can still apply for or keep a LTCH.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 11:20:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By spidey07:
KY did the same a few years ago. I keep mine up to date just to make purchasing easier/quicker.

No blood in the streets yet.
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The three Safest States in the U.S. all are constitutional carry.  ME, VT, NH

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/01/13/most-dangerous-states-in-america-violent-crime-murder-rate/40968963/

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