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Posted: 10/19/2018 2:03:10 PM EDT
CEO's have taken personal positions and companies have established one sided PAC's and assorted shenanigans have been pulled (example: electric utility company Duke Energy "loaned" the DNC $10 million for their 2012 convention and promptly forgave it entirely), but Patagonia appears to be the first company post Citizen's United to directly back candidates:
Link The Ventura, California-based retailer announced Friday that it is backing two Democrats, incumbent Sen. Jon Tester who is running for reelection in Montana, and Rep. Jacky Rosen as she seeks to unseat Republican Sen. Dean Heller in Nevada. The two Senate races are among the most competitive in 2018 in a chamber in which Republicans hold a razor-thin 51-to-49 majority.
"Public lands are center stage there, in Montana and Nevada," Patagonia spokeswoman Corley Kenna said. "And we felt by motivating our community to vote, we could help protect the public lands and waters in those places." Many corporations, such as AT&T, ExxonMobil and UPS, have established political action committees that take donations from employees and use it to fill candidates' coffers. The companies themselves stay mum on their preferred candidates. Some CEOs and other high-level executives endorse candidates as well. For example, Facebook's chief operating officer, Sheryl Sandberg, backed Hillary Clinton in 2016 while casino tycoon Sheldon Adelson endorsed Donald Trump. But neither the social-networking firm nor Adelson's company, Las Vegas Sands, themselves issued endorsements. What Patagonia is doing is different. For as much money as corporate interests have pumped into politics after the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision in 2010, Patagonia's pair of endorsements may constitute the first time any corporation has explicitly endorsed a candidate for office, experts say. "I am not aware of a similar corporate endorsement of a candidate," said Richard Briffault, a Columbia Law School professor and campaign finance expert, "although I can't say it never happened before." Michael Kang, a law professor and campaign-finance expert at Northwestern University, similarly could not recall any other public endorsement of a candidate from a corporations. "Consumer-facing companies traditionally shy away from taking sides publicly in candidate races, so it would make sense if nothing comparable has happened since Citizens United," Kang said. "Before Citizens United, a public endorsement of this type would've been illegal, so it's a relatively new opportunity in any event." View Quote |
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Wait you mean one of the most liberal companies on the planet are backing the Dems?
Say it isn’t so. |
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Yvonne Chounard or however you spell it, founder of Patagonia, is an enviro-whacko 'dam buster' guy.
This should not come as any surprise. |
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Yvonne Chounard or however you spell it, founder of Patagonia, is an enviro-whacko 'dam buster' guy. This should not come as any surprise. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Yvonne Chounard or however you spell it, founder of Patagonia, is an enviro-whacko 'dam buster' guy. This should not come as any surprise. https://www.fieldandstream.com/public-land-conservation-allies-patagonia-first-lite Chouinard is one of the most pugnacious conservationists in America today. He is an upland bird hunter, and he and his family rely almost entirely on wild game for their meat (much of it given to them by hunting friends), but no one will mistake him for a good ol’ boy hunter, much less any kind of moderate. “I’m a socialist,” he says, “and I don’t apologize for that. We live in a country where the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, and anybody can see where that is going. You have billionaires buying up huge chunks of land for themselves and shutting the people out of them. Look at Wyoming. You can’t even anchor a raft to fish. These people claim they even own the bottom of the river.” As for Republicans, Chouinard is infuriated by the anti-public lands and anti-environment movements in the party—and by President Trump, whom he despises—reducing the Bears Ear and Grand Staircase–Escalante National Monuments at the request of Republican politicians in Utah. After Patagonia publicly protested the monument reductions, he says, “The House Natural Resources Committee was out there, telling everybody to boycott us, telling people that we make all of our clothes in Asia with slave labor.” |
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This is why if your in business be it making outerwear or making movies for a profit....STFU, and make money!
This sucks to hear, but it doesn't mean that they don't make some fly jackets and stuff. |
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So a millionaire bitching about millionaires trying to personally politically influence democratic outcomes with his wealth
Yeah...fuck that guy. |
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Yes you have Cletus. View Quote I seldom buy or dispose of clothes though. I'm 35 and still wear some stuff from when I was in high school or the four years following. I wear out jeans like most people though and my wife just picks me up 2 or 3 pairs at the store when needed every year or so. |
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YC isn't a socialist with his own capital though. He split off BD from GPIW-Patagonia to seperate the liability of climbing PPE from the cash cow clothing line. He's a typical leftist hypocrite in the vein of Soros and Bloomberg and Bill Gates. This isn't to say they don't spread their fortune around, but they lobby for policies that would have been detrimental to the conditions that allowed them to innovate, seed, and grow.
Their stuff is over-priced but well designed if it fits your build and use case. |
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No, I haven't. I seldom buy or dispose of clothes though. I'm 35 and still wear some stuff from when I was in high school or the four years following. I wear out jeans like most people though and my wife just picks me up 2 or 3 pairs at the store when needed every year or so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yes you have Cletus. I seldom buy or dispose of clothes though. I'm 35 and still wear some stuff from when I was in high school or the four years following. I wear out jeans like most people though and my wife just picks me up 2 or 3 pairs at the store when needed every year or so. |
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Every damn dollar should be traceable to a registered constituent of the office the candidate is running for (at all levels) - ie registered CA voter can't contribute to senate candidates in NV or MT.
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Hate their politics but love their gear and repair/replace warranty.
If I quit spending money with businesses who held political views I dont like I'd pretty much be stuck not buying anything. |
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Pretty sure this is the same guy who bought a metric shitload of land in Chile, what did he do with that land?
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Hate their politics but love their gear and repair/replace warranty. If I quit spending money with businesses who held political views I dont like I'd pretty much be stuck not buying anything. View Quote I really can't afford to buy much of their stuff. |
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Sign up for their mailing list. They send out expensive catalogs. Use for gettin kindling goin
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Never heard of them until ads started popping up on my FB a few days ago. More reason to hide ad!!!!
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The last catalog read like a commie handbook. I don't spend money with them anymore, but they do make some great lightweight gear.
But so do other companies, many who don't get all preachy about who I should vote for. FP. |
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Let me go clean out my closet of Patagonia gear, oh wait, there is none in there.
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I'm still gonna buy Patagonia and Black Diamond gear, it's good shit.
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oh well fuck them, don't think I have any of their stuff anyway.
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I'm a climber, I'm not gonna lie, I've got a handful of their Gucci-gear. Not a lot of it though since they cut me out of their pro-deal program years ago.
But come on, what kind of surprise is this? He bought a bunch of land in coastal Chile and - depending on which faction of the local population you talk to - just up and shut the gates. I mean, they did some big military contracts but then again, all of the cutting edge mountaineering companies did. Didn't mean they weren't made up of a bunch of lefties in the first place. |
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This is why I have always believed that if you cannot physically vote for the candidate you should not be able to give the candidate money.
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I can't wait until the dems walk in and nationalize their companies.
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Pretty sure this is the same guy who bought a metric shitload of land in Chile, what did he do with that land? View Quote Tompkins ended up flipping his kayak down in Chile and dieing from drowning/hypothermia back in 2015 IIRC. |
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Better kit out there. They are on their way to becoming TNF.
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YC isn't a socialist with his own capital though. He split off BD from GPIW-Patagonia to seperate the liability of climbing PPE from the cash cow clothing line. He's a typical leftist hypocrite in the vein of Soros and Bloomberg and Bill Gates. This isn't to say they don't spread their fortune around, but they lobby for policies that would have been detrimental to the conditions that allowed them to innovate, seed, and grow. Their stuff is over-priced but well designed if it fits your build and use case. View Quote |
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