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I just want to know if .22lr is up to $100 a brick and common ARs at $2k?

There's a show tomorrow in Akron.

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We all know that everyone is worried about impending gun control with the Biden administration. As a result, everyone is buying everything, you can’t find anything, and anything you can find is overpriced. But in the scenario that he doesn’t, due to considerations of political fallout or sowing discord, how long would you say before supply and prices to normal? Or do you think that will never happen as long as he is president due to lack of trust in him?

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It won't be long, the next mass shooting will bring legislation to enact gun control measures.

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So.

I've had time to think about this.

Earlier (on 13 January 2021) I posted basically a "worst case" scenario:



Earlier this week, I updated my thinking:



So now it looks like he's holding it back as a "reinvigorate base as we head into the summer doldrums" card now.

Let's look at the most common claim I hear about Biden -- that it won't be that bad -- per  Jason280 in another thread:


Unlike Republicans, Democrats actually deliver to their base on various "pet" issues.

There's a downside to getting "pet causes" passed however. Doing so requires an enormous amount of effort; ranging from under the table bribes to outright threats to keep recalcitrant party members in line.

Because of this; generally, when a party seizes near complete control; not much actually gets done other than about 1.5 things.

In 2008-2010, that was Obamacare; and it took the democrats two years to get it passed; and Obamacare actually had serious opposition from the GOP; because $$$ talks; and Obamacare was a big threat to a lot of small businesses, etc.

Why Obama didn't do much is three factors:

1.) They spent so much political capital on Obamacare that when Sandy Hook came around in 2012; the Democrats hadn't fully recovered from the expenditure of political power on Obamacare two years prior.

2.) The Democratic party of 2010-2012 is much different than the Democratic Party of 2020. All of the old rural Democrats have been purged over the last decade; all of their major stars are from Urban areas like AOC.

3.) Obama while he was pro-gun control and did talk in vague generalities; he wasn't as outspoken as Biden and the Democrats have been this Campaign Cycle.

As of 2020, the Overton Window inside the Democratic party has shifted so much that stuff that would've been unthinkable outside of strident anti-gun crusaders has been normalized enough that Sleepy Joe went into lengthy detail with quite specific policy proposals during his campaign, including "put stuff on the National Firearms Act List"; something that has never actually been seriously proposed before at the national level, outside of gun control cranks.

Also, all of the Democratic candidates attempted to "one up" each other during the debates; anyone remember Beto O'Rourke's:

"Hell, yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47....We're not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore."

Biden's new White House Deputy Chief of Staff (Jen O'Malley Dillon) was Campaign Manager for Beto O'Rourke's 2020 campaign from 2019 to Spring 2020.

Likewise, Biden's VP is none other than Kamala "Microstamping kills the CA Roster" Harris.

There is now an "X Factor In Play"

THE NRA IS ATTEMPTING TO FILE CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY.

Additionally, the NRA-ILA (the part that does lobbying) is a total dumpster fire, following WLP firing Chris Cox (who had headed it for nearly 20 years) and then a week or so later also firing Chris Cox's replacement -- all this happened in 2019.

That's a lot of institutional knowledge on how to handle Congress and politicans...just gone.

Thus, while the balance of Congress is on paper, better than it was in 1994; in that the Democrats have razor thin margins in 2021....

...don't underestimate the power of TRU BELIEVERS.

For almost 80 years, the NRA has been the "boogeyman" of progressive politicans regarding gun control, going back to LBJ and FDR's Attorney General.

What do you think they're going to do now that they believe the "gun lobby" is kneecapped and incapable of mounting the kind of response they've put on in past legislative battles?

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Remember when everyone said Obama was coming for your guns?
Remember the panic of 2008-2009?
Remember post Sandy Hook?

Gun owners are whiney little victim snowflakes just like the left.

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RFLs and UBCs
RFLs would be 87X more easier to pass and almost just as effective.  Remember all those leftist coworkers and internet people Rs pissed off over the last 8 years?
Or not

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You think online ammo is expensive? I promise you every dude with a brick of rimfire will be selling it at gold prices.
I quit attending Gun shows years ago. There were no deals. Outrageous prices.

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He's been in power less than half a week and has already ejaculated several really fucking stupid EOs. I have no doubt he's going to come after guns.

Remember, we're white supremacists, insurrectionists, and domestic terrorists.

It's going to be a rocky few years. Stay frosty.

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There can be no political fallout when there are illegitimate elections.

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They are striking hard and fast.

Wouldn't surprise me to see a few EOs on guns in the next few weeks and a push for the full dem monte (basically CA's set of gun laws all in one package) before the end of summer.

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Honestly, I think he's gonna blow all his political capital on all sorts of other stupid shit, and run out of time, before Dems lose the Senate or Congress in 2022.

Obama was a bigger zealot, more competent, had less organized resistance, was more liked by the public, and had a larger majority, and still failed.

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The Dims had 2 years of control of the White House, the Senate and Congress and plenty of Lefty SCOTUS judges.

They didn’t do shit.

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Biden will come after guns. But he's no fool and will wait for when the optics are right. A school or workplace shooting in a heavily Democrat gun controlled area where the people aren't able to defend themselves will be it.

The man has been in politics for 40 years, he's no fool and he understands how to play the PR game and sway public opinion.

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I think they're only allowed to change the rules at the beginning of the new Senate and that time has passed. Not that the rule means anything to them I'm sure breaking the rule to change the rule wouldn't mean a thing like when Harry Reid did it a few years ago.

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10.  Whatever gets passed will be nearly impossible to undo later.  Just look at the NFA.  So whatever happens we have to stop the legislation beforehand if we plan on saving our freedoms.

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not a chance.  

probably be about the same as right now, AT BEST ! AND THATS WITHOUT new antigun laws EVEN BEING PUSHED, MUCH LESS PASSED. probably be MUCH worse than now a year down the road. hell,  it took 3 years after sandy hook to find .22lr locally easily..... this is that panic x 10, and extends to pretty much all ammo across the board. for the next few years at a MINIMUM.. anytime ANYTHING shows up at a halfway normal price it will vanish in seconds. the only easy to find ammo / primers will be second hand neck beard stuff or stores selling it sky high, or stores with a 1 box limit per customer.

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By this time next year prices will have returned to normal.

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Here's the ads from his campaign back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-giTWJq9s

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Nobody on this site knows what will happen. I can't begin to count all the things we were wrong about, from Obama to Trump.

Just sit back an enjoy the ride, buy what you want/can and deal with things when they actually happen.

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Have heard mention of an annual tax on UBR's and magazines so of course you would have to report/register how many you own.

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I see lots of 20er accounts asking very inquisitive firearm related questions lately. Almost like they are doing research.  

Contrasted to the 20er accounts a month ago that were spamming never_Trump comments and trying to subversively incite Trump supporters.

Whatever, maybe I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

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I’ve been thinking about doing a very large bulk order of ammo. Would it be cheaper to jist order online, or can I get more ammo by going to a gun show, in the current situation?

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Have heard mention of an annual tax on UBR's and magazines so of course you would have to report/register how many you own.