I’ve been on a vintage .22 rifle kick lately (Page 3 of 6)
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Originally Posted By JoeSP1: Remington 514 from the 40's, chopped from 26 to 20, threaded, suppressed, and a rail added. I call it my sentry elimination gun. It's light and movie quiet with subs. So much fun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/489500/1000015251_jpg-3793309.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/489500/1000015171_jpg-3793310.JPG At one point I looked into getting some spare parts for it and saw the exploded diagram. I was like "That's it?" The trigger is... Almost indescribable. Sear? We don't need no sear! |
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Originally Posted By R2point0: Plenty of people in this thread might be interested. And the Remington is a C&R.  Did it with all the gee-tars, and now I'm doing with many of the firearms. 
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Originally Posted By doc540: Dad's 1959 Marlin 99 for shitzngiggles I scoped it and tested it at 50yds After 67 years and tens of thousands of cheap LR's https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/target_marlin99-3793365.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/MarlinRange1-3793366.jpg It's really amazing how well a cheap old Marlin shoots. They did it right with those barrels! |
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: I have my mother's mother's (my grandmother) Winchester 69. It's not a super exciting rifle, but I'm glad to have it. She shot competitively when she was young. My dad probably shot 1000 groundhogs with it. I can't find a pic, but I wanted to learn about it, so I found this ad. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/46582/s-l1600-3792610.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/46582/s-l1600__1_-3792609.jpg Pre 64 Winchester 22's are pure Americana. Craftsmanship, performance, and aesthetics all in a package that was affordable to the average American. 47, 52, 61, 62, 63, 67, 69, 72, 74. I'll take a couple of each please. The old Remingtons from the same era was likely just as good, but my dad was a Winchester guy so that's what I'm familiar with. |
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My dad was born in 1938. His first 22 was a Winchester 47, and he gave it to me on my 10th birthday. I shot his 61 growing up, and he said he'd always wanted a 63 but could never afford one when he was younger, and couldn't find one in mint condition that was grooved for a price he was willing to pay when he could afford one. He said one year at the fair they had a jar full of jelly beans and if you guessed how many were in the jar you'd win a 63. He sat there for 1/2 the day counting to try to win that rifle. A couple of years ago I bought a grooved 63 in 99% condition off of gunbroker and gave it to him for Father's day. He just sat in the chair with it in his lap with a stunned expression saying "Well I'll be damned" It came with a period correct Weaver scope on it, but he pulls a NIB Redfield baby out from a drawer and said "I bought a scope for a 63 just in case I ever found one" |
Not as old as most of the others here, but still old - an Armi-Jaeger AP-74. Externally these look like Colt 604/M16/SP1 rifles, but they function very differently internally. They feed from a pistol mag that is inserted into the fake 20rd "magazine". This one is an early one; 1974, IIRC. Over time the lever safety was replaced with a simple cross-bolt, and strange variants were introduced - ones with wood furniture, folding wire stocks, etc. Most were .22LR but they did at least a few in .32ACP; magazines for those basically don't exist. These were used in a number of low-budget movies as M16 standins - most notably the original Dawn of the Dead. |
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Not as old as most of the others here, but still old - an Armi-Jaeger AP-74. https://i.imgur.com/rzz1vAm.jpeg Externally these look like Colt 604/M16/SP1 rifles, but they function very differently internally. They feed from a pistol mag that is inserted into the fake 20rd "magazine". This one is an early one; 1974, IIRC. Over time the lever safety was replaced with a simple cross-bolt, and strange variants were introduced - ones with wood furniture, folding wire stocks, etc. Most were .22LR but they did at least a few in .32ACP; magazines for those basically don't exist. These were used in a number of low-budget movies as M16 standins - most notably the original Dawn of the Dead. I wish I could have gotten one of those, instead I had one of the Armscor M1600 abortions in the 90's that even as a young teen I couldn't bring myself to love and traded it off towards something else. I think I sold it at a gun show and used the money along with some from dad to get a MKII 22/45. .jpg%3F1589364558&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=00168a7ead0271666ee1d0cd8bd194a689dce8bc9bbda34757fe4adeb6c1b545) |
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About 20 years ago I was gifted a Remington nylon 11. It was missing the magazine but I eventually tracked one down at a flea market. Shot it a few times ,it was okay but needed to be cleaned up.A lot of failure to fire , it's been in the safe ever since. This thread is making me now go home and get it out of the safe and clean it up. Just googled it and looked at the values on them now holy s*** going from 1,000 to 1400 bucks. Only made for 2 years, 1962-1964, probably less than 20,000 (?) built. |
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-: It's an old "gallery gun" style rifle. They are super interesting actually. They have tubular magazines, but it is in the buttstock. You load through a little port. The rifle came in 22LR (way more common) and then the rarer 22S variant that mine is. Capacity of the magazine is 10 22LR or 15 22S. All of them are bottom eject, and all are take down as well. They also made a slightly larger version, called the 241, and Browning still makes a slightly larger yet version called the SA-22. All same action, just furniture was pared down a bunch on the Model 24. This is not mine, but mine is indistinguishable from this here. Mine also has the very rare and sought after shell deflector, which prevents those spent cases from going down your shirt sleeve. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Remington_model_24.jpg/1920px-Remington_model_24.jpg Looks very much like a modified Browning SA-22, which is my personal favorite 22. I have about 10 of them. Designed by JM Browning in 1914 and still in production. Beautiful and handy little rifles. |
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I sort of collect the Winchester 1890 .22s, the "gallery guns". If you shot at the moving metal ducks at the circus, it was probably one of these. Think I have seven now. .22Long, Short, Long Rifle and WMR. Fun little guns. Also the ubiquitous 10/22, and a Remington 541T. THB? I forget. |
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"Hi, I'm Atlas, and I have a .22 problem..." My finest.. Attached File Win 52 (1936) Win 52C Sporter ('56) Kimber 82 Kimber 82 SuperAmerica Weatherby XXII Mauser MS420B |
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I've recently been culling all my .22s, I'm down to 2 left. I think my 541s is next on the block. I just don't shoot them enough and now that I'm building a nrl hunter rifle it's time to flip some nicer guns to fund it. 
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Originally Posted By Atlas-7: "Hi, I'm Atlas, and I have a .22 problem..." My finest.. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179243/1000030790_png-3795033.JPG Win 52 (1936) Win 52C Sporter ('56) Kimber 82 Kimber 82 SuperAmerica Weatherby XXII Mauser MS420B Very nice. Especially the 52 sporter and the SA. |
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ: Not as old as most of the others here, but still old - an Armi-Jaeger AP-74. https://i.imgur.com/rzz1vAm.jpeg Externally these look like Colt 604/M16/SP1 rifles, but they function very differently internally. They feed from a pistol mag that is inserted into the fake 20rd "magazine". This one is an early one; 1974, IIRC. Over time the lever safety was replaced with a simple cross-bolt, and strange variants were introduced - ones with wood furniture, folding wire stocks, etc. Most were .22LR but they did at least a few in .32ACP; magazines for those basically don't exist. These were used in a number of low-budget movies as M16 standins - most notably the original Dawn of the Dead. Lots were used in The Professional too, maybe even the same individual guns. I had the AP-15. Never did find out the difference between that and the 74, they look identical to me. |
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Originally Posted By cmb3366: A couple of mine, first is a Remington 121 slide action, the second is a Browning Semi with the early wheel sight. Not photographed are my Winchester 63 and Marlin 39a. I have a lot of fun shooting these old things, no safe queens. https://i.ibb.co/ShqrWm0/Remington-121-1.jpg https://i.ibb.co/hJcBHbP1/Browning-Wheelsight-1.jpg @cmb3366 How far is your 121 from the 318,000 range? I have one I interited from that range and one I bought as a fixer upper from roughly 175,000. Very cool rifles. |
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Originally Posted By shack357: @cmb3366 How far is your 121 from the 318,000 range? I have one I interited from that range and one I bought as a fixer upper from roughly 175,000. Very cool rifles. Originally Posted By shack357: Originally Posted By cmb3366: A couple of mine, first is a Remington 121 slide action, the second is a Browning Semi with the early wheel sight. Not photographed are my Winchester 63 and Marlin 39a. I have a lot of fun shooting these old things, no safe queens. https://i.ibb.co/ShqrWm0/Remington-121-1.jpg https://i.ibb.co/hJcBHbP1/Browning-Wheelsight-1.jpg @cmb3366 How far is your 121 from the 318,000 range? I have one I interited from that range and one I bought as a fixer upper from roughly 175,000. Very cool rifles. I love my 121, operates just like a miniature 870, no idea of the SN. I'll have to check. |
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Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot.  Weirdest Action Ever - Stevens Ranger 101.16 "Gill Gun" |
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Originally Posted By shack357: Lots were used in The Professional too, maybe even the same individual guns. I had the AP-15. Never did find out the difference between that and the 74, they look identical to me. As far as I know, they are identical. I'm not sure why some got designated AP-15 vs. AP-74, though. |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfg |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: A friend has one in immaculate condition. His father bought. Left it to my friend when he passed. When we go to the rsnge, the true funds come out of the woodwork. Give you $200 for it. That's all it's worth. Friend tells them everything "You're full of shit, go away". Originally Posted By 50cal: Originally Posted By TXBO: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402701/457A1812-BE43-44D4-9C4E-828658C61EE1-908922.jpg Winchester 03. First semiautomatic .22 available to the public. Chambered in .22 Winchester Automatic. Friend tells them everything "You're full of shit, go away". If he's like me, it's not for sale at any price. This was inherited by my dad from my grandfather and now me from dad. Won my first turkey shoot prize with it. |
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Originally Posted By wm69: My dad was born in 1938. His first 22 was a Winchester 47, and he gave it to me on my 10th birthday. I shot his 61 growing up, and he said he'd always wanted a 63 but could never afford one when he was younger, and couldn't find one in mint condition that was grooved for a price he was willing to pay when he could afford one. He said one year at the fair they had a jar full of jelly beans and if you guessed how many were in the jar you'd win a 63. He sat there for 1/2 the day counting to try to win that rifle. A couple of years ago I bought a grooved 63 in 99% condition off of gunbroker and gave it to him for Father's day. He just sat in the chair with it in his lap with a stunned expression saying "Well I'll be damned" It came with a period correct Weaver scope on it, but he pulls a NIB Redfield baby out from a drawer and said "I bought a scope for a 63 just in case I ever found one" That's an awesome story. |
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Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. My Brother!  I have granddad's old Model 74 that is chambered for Shorts. It's the "funnest" gun I have. It sounds like it's barely spitting the lead out. Not loud at all. Wouldn't trade it for the world! |
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Originally Posted By jeep44: I once had a collection of just about all the "US Property" marked .22 rifles-it's an interesting hobby, but my interests changed. I still have a 44US Mossberg, an 82G Kimber, and a 40X USMC marked Remington. I also still have a couple of H&R .22 rifles, and a Remington model 37, which was just about the ultimate in target rifles when it was made. A huge part of my stash were these. Plus about 8 of he Romanian M69's, had to like $50 rifles. |
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Originally Posted By distrflman: A huge part of my stash were these. Plus about 8 of he Romanian M69's, had to like $50 rifles. When I went to sell my collection of US Property .22 rifles, and various Mossberg rifles, I found it was quite difficult to sell them. I'd set up at a local Antique Arms show, and I'd get a million guys stopping by to tell me how they used to have one or another of these guns, but very few buyers. The old guys were more interested in selling, and the few young guys there weren't interested in old .22s. All my rifles were 100% complete, with all the hard to find sights, but I could never get a very good price for them-I always told the lookers that I could sell the sights, or the bolt for more than I was asking on ebay, and that was true. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster: I killed a coon with one of these last night. It's a nice, heavy real-feeling rifle. Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgThey made one in a Garand style stock that I'd really like to pick up. Pic I found: |
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Originally Posted By wm69: My dad was born in 1938. His first 22 was a Winchester 47, and he gave it to me on my 10th birthday. I shot his 61 growing up, and he said he'd always wanted a 63 but could never afford one when he was younger, and couldn't find one in mint condition that was grooved for a price he was willing to pay when he could afford one. He said one year at the fair they had a jar full of jelly beans and if you guessed how many were in the jar you'd win a 63. He sat there for 1/2 the day counting to try to win that rifle. A couple of years ago I bought a grooved 63 in 99% condition off of gunbroker and gave it to him for Father's day. He just sat in the chair with it in his lap with a stunned expression saying "Well I'll be damned" It came with a period correct Weaver scope on it, but he pulls a NIB Redfield baby out from a drawer and said "I bought a scope for a 63 just in case I ever found one" Fantastic story. My 63 is also a late grooved receiver gun, but Dad's is ungrooved like most were. My grandfather always used to say that only the rich kids had 63s. They were the second most expensive rimfire rifle Winchester ever sold; second only to the 52 Sporters. Very much the Rolls Royce of the self-loading rimfire rifles of their day. |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: They made one in a Garand style stock that I'd really like to pick up. Pic I found: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/attachments/stevens-87m-ranger-version-007-jpg.102529/ When the Army had no interest, that small batch of about 300 rifles was sold off. After the war, the project was resurrected and they were sold through Sears, branded as the "Ranger Minute Man" and many (more than 300 anyway) were sold. My grandpa had an 87M, and I looked forever to find one. Don't know if I believe the 300 story, but they're pretty rare. My gun Attached File Story here https://actionshotsnh.blogspot.com/2014/08/springfield-87m-rifle.html?m=1 Old Sears ad showing both variants Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgI really want one of the gill guns (AKA click-clack 22's). Such a neat design. I own a Remington 511 that I put modern glass on. It is very accurate and I really enjoy shooting it. I had wanted to chop the barrel and thread it, but I can't bring myself to butcher the old gun. I also own a Glenfield 75C with a vintage 4x Weaver scope. I really liked it at the time, but it doesn't do much for me. So it sits. |
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I want to love vintage 22's, but the new stuff is just so much better. As you said the old triggers suck. I got a relatively cheap Tikka T1x last year and with the $5 spring it has a perfect 1.5 lbs trigger pull. The barrel is amazing, bolt smooth, and it shoots 1/2" groups at 50 yards all day long. On the other hand I picked up a few old Marlins and they are fun for about a range trip or two. After that, I realize the triggers really suck (more takeup than poundage), they just won't shoot great, and the wood and blued steel I bought them for are really not that great. They're great loaner squirrel guns, but not much else. |
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Originally Posted By Macchina: I want to love vintage 22's, but the new stuff is just so much better. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Lawless_Flogic: Does the JC Higgins have the "seat belt" sling? I know they're just inexpensive little plinkers, but I always thought that was kinda neat. Family member has one that I went through and cleaned/fixed. The seatbelt sling was trashed so I removed it...but wa a little sad about it. Exact same one as the OP. |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgOriginally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgGot one of them, brought it to the Smith and he said eh, if you thread it and shoot it a lot you'll probably break something. Not worth doing. I still want to do it, and may. It's a mag fed version too, not tube fed. |
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Originally Posted By jeep44: I once had a collection of just about all the "US Property" marked .22 rifles-it's an interesting hobby, but my interests changed. I still have a 44US Mossberg, an 82G Kimber, and a 40X USMC marked Remington. I also still have a couple of H&R .22 rifles, and a Remington model 37, which was just about the ultimate in target rifles when it was made. Same here plus a Remington matchmaster 513T. Cool rifles but I just don't shoot them. |
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Originally Posted By spuddicus: Remington 550-1 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/150826/IMG_1264_jpeg-3793559.JPG She was filthy when I picked it up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/150826/IMG_1251_jpeg-3793561.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/150826/IMG_1249_jpeg-3793565.JPG 
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Originally Posted By LeadBreakfast: Got one of them, brought it to the Smith and he said eh, if you thread it and shoot it a lot you'll probably break something. Not worth doing. I still want to do it, and may. It's a mag fed version too, not tube fed. Originally Posted By LeadBreakfast: Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgGot one of them, brought it to the Smith and he said eh, if you thread it and shoot it a lot you'll probably break something. Not worth doing. I still want to do it, and may. It's a mag fed version too, not tube fed. They are still pretty cheap so I wouldn't worry too much. I'm just curious how it would sound with that action. |
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Originally Posted By 19ontheslide: Originally Posted By Macchina: I want to love vintage 22's, but the new stuff is just so much better. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/false-995.jpg Agreed, I have a 30 year old Anschutz that has the best trigger of any of my .22's and most of my centerfire guns. |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: They are still pretty cheap so I wouldn't worry too much. I'm just curious how it would sound with that action. Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By LeadBreakfast: Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: Originally Posted By Andrapos: I was halfway expecting to see a bunch of "gill guns" in here! I've got an old Winchester 74 from the early 1940s, it belonged to my great uncle and is an easy rifle to shoot. I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgGot one of them, brought it to the Smith and he said eh, if you thread it and shoot it a lot you'll probably break something. Not worth doing. I still want to do it, and may. It's a mag fed version too, not tube fed. They are still pretty cheap so I wouldn't worry too much. I'm just curious how it would sound with that action. Yeah, not worried about the cost, just don't want to wreck a fine critter getter when I've already got other threaded options... But it will probably happen
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Originally Posted By LeadBreakfast: Yeah, not worried about the cost, just don't want to wreck a fine critter getter when I've already got other threaded options... But it will probably happen |
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Originally Posted By Coffin-Nail: I grabbed a gill gun off gunbroker for $155. It's a Stevens Ranger 101.16. I really should get that threaded, it has the perfect action. For those who've never tried one if you hold the trigger back the bolt stays to the rear and you can lock the bolt to make it a single shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_oDVqKDhfgGrandfather had one: Stevens/Springfield 87A. Older brother ended up with it but i found a mint condition one a few months back. |