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Posted: 7/9/2019 3:02:30 AM EDT
I’m doing major landscaping work which includes dropping the propane tank about 4’ and putting in a retaining wall behind it. While slowly digging with the shovel and excavator.... I hit it anyway. On Saturday when everyone is closed. We are about 60 miles from a metro area, but any specialty suppliers were closed anyway, and as I found out today, they won’t sell to me anyway. Liability they say....
So I’m writing a $300 check for someone to show up Tuesday morning and spend 10 minutes installing a splice. And that’s just fine. After bad propane installation costing me nearly everything a few years ago, I’m not going to complain about the cold showers for the last three days. If that other jackass had known what he was doing nearly two decades ago, my life would be very, very different. Possibly not for the better, so I’m not complaining. But freezing cold showers sure suck. |
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Ouch. With gas explosions blowing up peoples houses in the news, I'm not surprised they want only qualified contractors to touch a gas line.
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I don't know if a 20 pound barbecue tank is capable of flowing propane fast enough to fuel a water heater running full-tilt -
But if so, there's your redneck solution. |
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For your 300 bucks I'm assuming they will check the line at the house to make sure you didn't pull it loose. Worth the money but it sounds like you know that...
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Already posted, but I will second the solar shower. If you have a camp stove or grill or something like that you can hurt it along.
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Ouch. With gas explosions blowing up peoples houses in the news, I'm not surprised they want only qualified contractors to touch a gas line. View Quote |
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Can’t get what you need at Lowe’s or Depot? I bought everything I needed to run a gas SST gas line from Lowe’s.
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Draw a bath. Let the water reach room temp. Boil a bunch of water. Dump water in bath tub. Enjoy a luke warm bath.
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Was wondering the same thing. Didn't realize you needed a license to work on your own gas lines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can’t get what you need at Lowe’s or Depot? I bought everything I needed to run a gas SST gas line from Lowe’s. Anyway, training is as simple as watching a video and then you too can install gas lines. The real irony was my original gas contractor was too high on a bid. Previously he did work for me that received solid praise from the inspector, so I was bummed he gave me a high bid. After taking the training to DIY it, I realized his work was actually not up to spec! |
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This is the part from Home Depot. It’s not even close to correct, but all I have is 1/2” direct bury poly pipe. Apparently there are multiple types? This stuff isn’t even close.
Attached File I also hit this same line two years ago and the local-ish propane sales place sold me this type of splice, but won’t do it again. There’s really no complexity to installing it. Attached File |
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I don't know if a 20 pound barbecue tank is capable of flowing propane fast enough to fuel a water heater running full-tilt - But if so, there's your redneck solution. View Quote |
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Quoted: We tried that yesterday. None of the fittings were correct so I’d have to do a fair bit of plumbing and add a valve in to keep it from back-flowing outside. It just didn’t seem worth it.... till I got in the shower. View Quote |
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My propane water heater died a couple years ago. Still haven't gotten around to replacing it. Cold showers aren't the worst things ever.
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This is the part from Home Depot. It's not even close to correct, but all I have is 1/2" direct bury poly pipe. Apparently there are multiple types? This stuff isn't even close. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122594/2A09FDF5-7C48-4C3E-9FEB-DCB2DE0992C8_jpeg-1009707.JPG I also hit this same line two years ago and the local-ish propane sales place sold me this type of splice, but won't do it again. There's really no complexity to installing it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122594/F2319C5E-0F4C-41BE-94F7-87524A4DF2AE_jpeg-1009711.JPG View Quote |
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This is the part from Home Depot. It’s not even close to correct, but all I have is 1/2” direct bury poly pipe. Apparently there are multiple types? This stuff isn’t even close. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122594/2A09FDF5-7C48-4C3E-9FEB-DCB2DE0992C8_jpeg-1009707.JPG I also hit this same line two years ago and the local-ish propane sales place sold me this type of splice, but won’t do it again. There’s really no complexity to installing it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122594/F2319C5E-0F4C-41BE-94F7-87524A4DF2AE_jpeg-1009711.JPG View Quote |
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I'm doing major landscaping work which includes dropping the propane tank about 4' and putting in a retaining wall behind it. While slowly digging with the shovel and excavator.... I hit it anyway. On Saturday when everyone is closed. We are about 60 miles from a metro area, but any specialty suppliers were closed anyway, and as I found out today, they won't sell to me anyway. Liability they say.... So I'm writing a $300 check for someone to show up Tuesday morning and spend 10 minutes installing a splice. And that's just fine. After bad propane installation costing me nearly everything a few years ago, I'm not going to complain about the cold showers for the last three days. If that other jackass had known what he was doing nearly two decades ago, my life would be very, very different. Possibly not for the better, so I'm not complaining. View Quote Wash up as far as possible. Wash down as far as possible. Then, wash possible. A quart of stove warmed water and a wash cloth; you're all set. |
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Dang dude, you might consider marking your lines better. View Quote When we bought the house it wasn’t marked and I hit it as I was trying to dig up a gigantic rock with my mini and the teeth slipped off and went through the lines. This time the line was about 3’ from where I expected it, bad luck. But it’s going to be really well marked in about two hours! |
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I don't know if a 20 pound barbecue tank is capable of flowing propane fast enough to fuel a water heater running full-tilt - But if so, there's your redneck solution. View Quote I was living in Long Beach NY for hurricane Sandy and a zodi camping shower did it’s job perfectly and was my saving grace for a couple of months |
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When I left Nam the last time, I made a promise to my self. "I will NEVER take another cold shower as long as I live. I haven't.
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Blah, I live in a part of Texas where we still have the freedom to blow ourselves up with our own home installations of all kinds. Freedom can be dangerous, but it is freedom. I live in the country, so no one has to be concerned about me killing anyone outside my family...LOL!
That said, OP, how were the parts "controlled" in a manner that the supply house or a Lowes would even know what you were doing? I'd be able to fix, splice, or add propane gas line at my home with off-the-shelf parts that no one would say "boo" about. What's your gas line made of? There are some places in my state where if you were buying a hot water heater, they might have some regs or such, but how did your parts tip off the gestapo that you were up to no good? |
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Ouch. With gas explosions blowing up peoples houses in the news, I'm not surprised they want only qualified contractors to touch a gas line. View Quote |
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This is the part from Home Depot. It’s not even close to correct, but all I have is 1/2” direct bury poly pipe. Apparently there are multiple types? This stuff isn’t even close. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122594/2A09FDF5-7C48-4C3E-9FEB-DCB2DE0992C8_jpeg-1009707.JPG I also hit this same line two years ago and the local-ish propane sales place sold me this type of splice, but won’t do it again. There’s really no complexity to installing it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/122594/F2319C5E-0F4C-41BE-94F7-87524A4DF2AE_jpeg-1009711.JPG View Quote |
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Not too long ago we had an extended power outage. No power no well. No well no water, well you get the idea.
Three bottles of room temp water and one bottle of just boiling water off my camp stove. Dump all into a small bucket. It’s amazing how little water you actually need to get clean. |
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My local supply house would sell me an atomic bomb if they had a SKU for it in their system. Some places are just easier about those things than others. Actually, they're kind of impressed that I even attempt to do it right when none of the contractors in town care about that in the least.
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Turn the water on, rinse yourself. Shut it down, lather up and then turn it on to rinse that soap off.
That’s how I take them when I have to. |
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Some of the comments here about not tampering with your gas lines at your house, I'll throw this out. Each of us should know our limitations when it comes to mechanical knowledge and the attached safety thereof. I am not...am not...throwing shade on people who know they are not mechanically inclined. It is wise to know when to or not work on your car, home, or other potentially dangerous items.
However, think about this. Most people have had "work done by professionals". In most all of those cases where homes or businesses blew up because of gas leaks, so-called professionals probably performed the work. Now, that doesn't mean other factors don't come into play in some of those explosions that had nothing to do with a truly professional installation, but I'd bet in many cases the work failed because of "professionals". When I work on an engine, an electrical project, gas lines, etc. at my home, I sleep well at night knowing the condition of that project and how it was done. Everyone cannot perform all of their own maintenance or repairs, and that is logical, but not everything is NASA level complicated in terms of danger and repair capability. Some of the idiots I've seen come out to places I've worked to fix or repair things could hardly be accused of being "professional". There are companies and individuals out there who provide top notch service and skills, but I contend they are the minority. Fixing your own gas line if you have the tools and skill to do so is not dangerous in itself. |
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Perhaps consider wrapping the line in yellow split pipe.
Oh and LOL I wouldn't sell gas parts to a guy who hit the same line twice, either. |
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Quoted: Does it have a tracer wire with it so that it can be found with metal detecting equipment? View Quote He just left, all fixed and will be torn apart and extended again in a few weeks. But at least that time the outage will be planned. Warm showers tonight!! |
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Perhaps consider wrapping the line in yellow split pipe. Oh and LOL I wouldn't sell gas parts to a guy who hit the same line twice, either. View Quote In other words... It's really, really hard to only dig a trench where you want to. On the high side, I have plenty of rocks for a retaining wall. |
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