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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:26:58 AM EDT
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As long as oil and gas prices keep going up to cover the cost.
Just saw oils around 90 a barrel |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:29:44 AM EDT
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I guess conscripts have always been inexpensive. Until you feed them.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:30:27 AM EDT
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What you need to understand is that communist systems don't have losses, gains, or profits. They don't think or view the same as we do.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:31:59 AM EDT
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I have thought if they are foing they would have fo'ed by now.
spring is coming |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:34:58 AM EDT
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Russia has positioned about 130,000 troops - equipped with everything from tanks and artillery to ammunition and air power - close to Ukraine's border.
They include about 30,000 troops taking part in military exercises in Belarus. Yeah, I would be crying about the cost. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:39:07 AM EDT
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TEH INVAYSHUN IS IMMUHNENT-UH!!!!
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:41:50 AM EDT
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Don't get caught up on the cost. Russia can afford it right now.
What's concerning is this cost was already budgeted by MOD planners months/year in advance. That is more telling IMO. None of the buildup has been short notice, everything is moving according to a specific plan(other than the short CSTO deployment to Kazakhstan). |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:51:04 AM EDT
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what extra costs are there? fuel? the troops get their pay and food no matter if they're deployed or not, and the equipment was already purchased long ago
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:52:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What you need to understand is that communist systems don't have losses, gains, or profits. They don't think or view the same as we do. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:54:10 AM EDT
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War isn't thought of in normal business sense.
Using a $100K Laser guided missile to take out 1 random bad guy doesn't make financial sense, but it works when you consider killing the enemy as the main goal. Winning / losing, gains / losses, and concessions are the only measures |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 11:58:53 AM EDT
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Sending the bill to the Ukranians in 90 days.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:08:22 PM EDT
[#12]
That is a lot of Vodka to bring along
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:13:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what extra costs are there? fuel? the troops get their pay and food no matter if they're deployed or not, and the equipment was already purchased long ago fuel & parts attrition too, soldiers getting sick and equipment being lost |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:14:14 PM EDT
[#14]
Smokes and vodka must be in the billions by now.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what extra costs are there? fuel? the troops get their pay and food no matter if they're deployed or not, and the equipment was already purchased long ago Food, and in modern warefare, fuel, transportation of equipment are big expenditures alone. Feeding +100k troops ain't cheap. Wars and the associated troop buildups and mobilizing has been known to bankrupt nations so cost is a valid question. Plus troops do not just sit around during periods of mobilization. They train and drill for the upcoming conflict which means ammo is used which must be replaced, wear and tear and subsequent repairs to equipment, sometimes to troops too. All cost large amounts of money especially when multiplied by +100k. Often infrastructure have to be considered if a conflict is indeed coming as you have to insure supply lines can keep up with your army. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:34:26 PM EDT
[#16]
The money spent on tow services alone would seem astronomical
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:37:03 PM EDT
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It costs them Oh. Commies steal everything from the producers. It only costs the producers.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 3:39:00 PM EDT
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More than the budget.
If you're a poor private in the Russian Army and you need money, you steal something and sell it. So, your company can have twenty trucks, but only five run because the other 15 are missing carbuerators or something. 
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:01:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have thought if they are foing they would have fo'ed by now. spring is coming If the weather forecasts are accurate, it seems like they're going to be in the low 30s to high 30s all this week and next. Give it two weeks.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What you need to understand is that communist systems don't have losses, gains, or profits. They don't think or view the same as we do.  Are you permanently stuck in 1985? |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a lot of Vodka to bring along Double rations for a fast victory. 
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:42:17 PM EDT
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I'll bet Russian troop morale isn't sky high either.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:50:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Double rations for a fast victory. Back in the Cold War days, I always thought we could stop a Soviet conquest of Europe if we stocked warehouses with alcohol. Give them 2-3 days, walk in, disarm them and round them up. Do not poison anything. We don't want them to avoid the stuff. BTW, the Germans poisoned bottles of alcohol that injured our troops. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:52:18 PM EDT
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The stunt is more than paying for itself with the higher oil prices caused by it. Also remember that this is on Russian soil so they have 100% logistical control. There have been exercises 10x this size by them for longer and they got through.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you permanently stuck in 1985? seeing as the leader of that country was a KGB agent from 1975 to 1991.. its a fair assessment . |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you permanently stuck in 1985? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What you need to understand is that communist systems don't have losses, gains, or profits. They don't think or view the same as we do. Are you permanently stuck in 1985? seeing as the current leader of that country was a KGB agent from 1975 to 1991.. its a fair assessment . |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:56:52 PM EDT
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looks like i get double rations
or i edited wrong
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:57:05 PM EDT
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Since the primary products are pretty much state owned, the pay is next to nill for soldiers, and they've learned to run lean for quite some time...not a lot.
Vodka and cigs like somebody else said, now that could get expensive. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:57:49 PM EDT
[#29]
they can support 30 days of fo thats it
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:58:15 PM EDT
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No more than it would cost them in the rear. They live the same there as they do in the field.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 5:58:29 PM EDT
[#31]
Vodka
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:00:06 PM EDT
[#32]
If they are like our military it's all part of their required training hours and budget. At least that's what I hear on arfcom.
Probably just Putin flexing on Biden to get his way with their pipeline and get something out of the US so it will probably more than pay for itself. Plus it helps those Russian billionaires make some more money when their military has to buy replacement ammo and supplies. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:00:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Probably cost them less than say California pays for “social welfare” programs for a month.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: seeing as the current leader of that country was a KGB agent from 1975 to 1991.. its a fair assessment . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What you need to understand is that communist systems don't have losses, gains, or profits. They don't think or view the same as we do. Are you permanently stuck in 1985? seeing as the current leader of that country was a KGB agent from 1975 to 1991.. its a fair assessment . It’s an assumption devoid of all common sense or historical knowledge or wisdom. Willful ignorance of the worst kind. Fwiw- Russia would be far less of a threat if they were still communist. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:05:00 PM EDT
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Was wondering this last night. If they are looking for money or something, they are sure wasting a lot of it which would offset.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:10:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:10:00 PM EDT
[#37]
Move a US military divission a couple hundred miles in the US for an extended period and tell me the cost don't jump up just to service them, food and a thousand other things. That may be part of their regular yearly exercises, I don't know. But cost more than being at their home base.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back in the Cold War days, I always thought we could stop a Soviet conquest of Europe if we stocked warehouses with alcohol. Give them 2-3 days, walk in, disarm them and round them up. Do not poison anything. We don't want them to avoid the stuff. BTW, the Germans poisoned bottles of alcohol that injured our troops. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Double rations for a fast victory. Back in the Cold War days, I always thought we could stop a Soviet conquest of Europe if we stocked warehouses with alcohol. Give them 2-3 days, walk in, disarm them and round them up. Do not poison anything. We don't want them to avoid the stuff. BTW, the Germans poisoned bottles of alcohol that injured our troops. That's just plain evil. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#39]
What if Russia never intended to invade but this is a calculated move to raise fuel prices and make them billions nationally? Market manipulation through military feint.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:17:27 PM EDT
[#40]
$2400
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:19:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back in the Cold War days, I always thought we could stop a Soviet conquest of Europe if we stocked warehouses with alcohol. Give them 2-3 days, walk in, disarm them and round them up. Do not poison anything. We don't want them to avoid the stuff. BTW, the Germans poisoned bottles of alcohol that injured our troops. There was a point in the 1990’s where the Russians lost a large portion of their labor workforce aged males to drowning while drunk. |
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Smokes and vodka must be in the billions by now. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/20150123_DonetskTank_528.jpg Is that like an anti-tank round Kevlar rug they got in the front there? Held down by rocks, looks iffy but then its a T-90, every little bit helps....to make it burn better.
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Posted: 2/10/2022 6:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There have been exercises 10x this size by them for longer and they got through. when? |
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