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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:57:47 PM EDT
I premise this with:
I remember the AWB, I was here during 08', 12' all the hysteria.. I understand that things like lowers, ammo and mags are going to be bought in mass. I don't understand how some parts, like an aero or BCM uppers, barrels and BCGs can stay out of stock for months and months on end? Some of this stuff hasn't been available for half a year. Who is buying all of these parts? Aren't they built in batches of thousands? Is manufacturing running 24/7? Maybe I'm getting old, but this feels different.  |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:58:53 PM EDT
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Everybody knows what’s about to happen.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:59:00 PM EDT
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Supply and demand.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:59:33 PM EDT
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So many backorders that product never makes it to the shelf.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:02:11 AM EDT
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its not always out of stock you just arent checking at the right times. Hell last month aero had blem lowers and uppers in stock for hours.
learn to use tools that automatically check stock status. that being said, people are buying it up, tons of new shooters, tons of shooters who would rather have some spare parts on hand in the event shit goes south with a China Harris admin. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:02:27 AM EDT
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Remember just a few months ago when lots and lots of people didn't go to work?
Another example is power supplies for computers. Most all of them come from China. China basically shut down for a while. They are still somewhat scarce. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:03:35 AM EDT
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The country is doubling down on the panic and producers have been kneecapped by the china flu.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:05:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everybody knows what’s about to happen. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:09:15 AM EDT
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I love the recent calls from Rock River like yeah those 6 rifles you ordered, welp we can’t find any 1:9 CM barrels now is 1:7 cool? Charging handles, welp out of regular ones let’s go with radian if that’s what’s there today.... Things are soon to get even more scarce and it will get worse before it gets better! If it gets better... tens of millions of new gun owners, combined with aspects like some companies are not allowed into their businesses to make more barrels and parts has consequences... Hopefully companies like Agency survive.... months awaiting orders that cannot be fulfilled in the current climate will compound as chairman Biden “overseas” a National Great Reset agenda... Godspeed everyone...
And what about that earthquake in Kazakhstan earlier USGS says never happened? History is unfolding! |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:10:57 AM EDT
[#9]
It is not staying out of stock.
You just aren't checking in the time they list inventory and the 1 minute and 27 seconds until it sells out.  |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:18:51 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted: I premise this with: I remember the AWB, I was here during 08', 12' all the hysteria.. I understand that things like lowers, ammo and mags are going to be bought in mass. I don't understand how some parts, like an aero or BCM uppers, barrels and BCGs can stay out of stock for months and months on end? Some of this stuff hasn't been available for half a year. Who is buying all of these parts? Aren't they built in batches of thousands? Is manufacturing running 24/7? Maybe I'm getting old, but this feels different. 2020's NICS check amount was almost 40M. How many states have CCW licenses that bypass NICS? What do you think the total number of guns purchased last year was? It had to be huge. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:20:06 AM EDT
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Covid put a strain on it, impending election put a strain on it. Impending war with c#ina and election chaos along with a bunch of lefties and libertarians getting on the 2a train has taken it to insanity levels.
Shits gonna get bumpy one way or another. I'd say my only hope is that this is a mostly manufactured crisis and they will need to return to normalcy to retain any semblance of power but that is rather dismal. Most likely I see a much worse false flag event in our future followed by a huge gun grab and persecution of extremist God loving non drug users who love their country... Of course they can't go to far with that cause those are the people that protect them so it will eventually quietly be turned on some other minority because we all know who the real kkk party is. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:22:06 AM EDT
[#12]
Ordering bots
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:34:26 AM EDT
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I wanna know where all the assholes with $4000 to blow on a SP5 came from.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:51:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wanna know where all the assholes with $4000 to blow on a SP5 came from. I guess I is asshoe  2 weeks before the election I found a SP5 and SP5k locally. Bought both, total was just under 9k  Finding anything locally has been tough but online at 10-20% over normal has been easy. Since the election I've bought online: Galil ACE 7.62 pistol w/brace G19 gen5 x2 G17 gen5 G19 gen5 MOS Still searching for Sig Rattler |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:54:46 AM EDT
[#15]
I haven't been able to find a can of Lysol for months. I use it and a Bic lighter as a flame thrower to kill flies
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:56:01 AM EDT
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Because no one is working.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:57:02 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: its not always out of stock you just arent checking at the right times. Hell last month aero had blem lowers and uppers in stock for hours. learn to use tools that automatically check stock status. that being said, people are buying it up, tons of new shooters, tons of shooters who would rather have some spare parts on hand in the event shit goes south with a China Harris admin. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:06:36 AM EDT
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I check DSArms, Primary Arms, Aero, Brownells and Midway several times a day for certain items. A couple weeks ago with about 45min left in the work day DSA Nitride BCGs came in stock. As soon as I was off the clock I hit checkout but they were already out of stock. Didn't even last an hour.
If I hadn't happened to check right at that moment I would think they haven't been in stock for months. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:26:57 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because no one is working. Maybe not in commie Canada but in my state it is business as usual and we aren't all dead. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:39:29 AM EDT
[#20]
I wasn't around during the previous panics. That said, the internet is a whole new beast now. Combine the events of the last 12 months with internet shopping being done by everyone in the United States and you measure time in stock in seconds and minutes now. Everyone gets notifications when items are available. FOMO and panic feed instant purchasing decisions and things sell out immediately.
The best example is primers. They come in stock frequently but sell out in literally seconds. Thousands of people crash entire websites trying to order them at the same time. To a normal person, it seems like primers have been out of stock for months when they actually have been available many times. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:42:52 AM EDT
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even certain gas blocks i haven't seen in stock for months.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:47:49 AM EDT
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Remember how much bcg’s and bolts were going for in 2013?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:51:25 AM EDT
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It's going to get worse before it gets better
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:52:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: ......... Maybe I'm getting old, but this feels different. The other times it was political differences. This time it is a military occupation. That is just beginning. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:54:33 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love the recent calls from Rock River like yeah those 6 rifles you ordered, welp we can’t find any 1:9 CM barrels now is 1:7 cool? Charging handles, welp out of regular ones let’s go with radian if that’s what’s there today.... Things are soon to get even more scarce and it will get worse before it gets better! If it gets better... tens of millions of new gun owners, combined with aspects like some companies are not allowed into their businesses to make more barrels and parts has consequences... Hopefully companies like Agency survive.... months awaiting orders that cannot be fulfilled in the current climate will compound as chairman Biden “overseas” a National Great Reset agenda... Godspeed everyone... And what about that earthquake in Kazakhstan earlier USGS says never happened? History is unfolding! Wait, what? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:03:16 AM EDT
[#26]
Demand is outpacing supply.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:10:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to get worse before it gets better Yup.... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:11:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Demand is outpacing supply. This..... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:11:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:17:40 AM EDT
[#30]
I’ve had a BRN-180 lower on backorder order from Brownells for 5 months.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:20:23 AM EDT
[#31]
I've been into guns since before the AWB, I've never seen a panic of this proportion.
The only ammo academy had in stock the other day was 6 boxes of 22 shot shells. Nothing else at all, no 35 Whelen, no 220 swift, no 28 gauge, none of those short mag rounds that were popular 15 years ago. They did have some mags, a handful of ARs and several pistols. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:21:14 AM EDT
[#32]
I work in a plant that supplies a lot of parts to the gun industry.
If you haven't noticed, we've been in the middle of a pandemic for a while. Labor is hard to come by. Lots of employees out sick or on quarantine. The operators that are willing to work OT are burned out. We can't even fully staff a normal workweek much less 24/7. Couple that with some uncertainty concerning possible new gun laws and you begin to see the status of the industry. On top of that, people are buying up everything they can get their hands on right now. This is different than the previous panics during the Obama administration. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:23:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe not in commie Canada but in my state it is business as usual and we aren't all dead. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because no one is working. Maybe not in commie Canada but in my state it is business as usual and we aren't all dead. +1 bar and restaurants are open at almost 100%. Most people worked from home for a few months. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:29:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Of course this is different. Covid, floyd, election, trifecta.
Whatever, longterm availability of ammo is my main concern. Assuming no bans it will come back. If they stop online sales I guarantee you will see it back on wallyworlds shelves. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:30:52 AM EDT
[#35]
I moonlight at a Gun store/military surplus.
The amount of traffic buying EVERYTHING is insane. Ammo gone Guns gone Mags moving fast, but available Plate carriers gone Plates gone Radios gone Gas masks gone Parts slim pickings, but some available Did I mention ammo is non existent? We still get 5.56 and limit purchases to 2 boxes per customer. Doesn't matter, gone in a day. It is not all Trump supporters either. The crowd is definitely a mixed bag. Prepare accordingly. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 8:33:39 AM EDT
[#36]
I need an RCBS #3 shell holder
They seemingly don't exist I can buy various gun parts all day long but reloading stuff? Not a chance. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:29:13 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I need an RCBS #3 shell holder They seemingly don't exist I can buy various gun parts all day long but reloading stuff? Not a chance. @AR15thur RCBS #3's are on eBay. ~$25 shipped. Might seem high, but many places that would cost $10 with $8 shipping... so not terrible. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:31:56 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can buy various gun parts all day long but reloading stuff? Not a chance. I was stunned yesterday when I actually got a couple of things for reloading I needed. I expected them to be out of stock. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:33:43 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: I premise this with: I remember the AWB, I was here during 08', 12' all the hysteria.. I understand that things like lowers, ammo and mags are going to be bought in mass. I don't understand how some parts, like an aero or BCM uppers, barrels and BCGs can stay out of stock for months and months on end? Some of this stuff hasn't been available for half a year. Who is buying all of these parts? Aren't they built in batches of thousands? Is manufacturing running 24/7? Maybe I'm getting old, but this feels different. Well for starters we didn't have COVID-19 lockdowns in 2008 and 2012 in addition to the volatile political climate And I guess you forgot, but yes BCGs, stripped uppers, barrels, LPKs were all unobtanium for a good year after Sandy Hook |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:44:51 AM EDT
[#40]
I’ve said it multiple times, last time was last night, but there is 100% something else going on.
It’s got to be either an artificial or COVID-based raw materials shortage. The amount of “WTB” ads is disturbing, to say the least. It’s not just Firearms, though. Look at the appliance repair man, who just a few days ago, told us to treat our appliances well as major parts for them are more than a month out. My favorite fun store has consolidated their shelves, I foresee my smaller LGS’s (and thousands of others in the country) going under soon. There is absolutely something else afoot. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:47:23 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And I guess you forgot, but yes BCGs, stripped uppers, barrels, LPKs were all unobtanium for a good year after Sandy Hook I miss the BCG days. I sold all my BCG's for market price out of most of my working guns, then just backordered BCM's, which didn't take that long to ship actually. This too shall pass. Maybe. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:48:59 AM EDT
[#42]
No kidding. Spiritus Systems stuff for their Mk4 Micro Fight Chassis has been out of stock forever.
I dont even get “back in stock” emails and then miss getting the scant few they re-stock! |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:53:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everybody knows what’s about to happen. Covid, Election Year, the Defund the Police Movement, many businesses on life support, BLM burning cities..... 2021 could see 50 million NICS checks. In a country of 330 million. Think about that. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:54:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work in a plant that supplies a lot of parts to the gun industry. If you haven't noticed, we've been in the middle of a pandemic for a while. Labor is hard to come by. Lots of employees out sick or on quarantine. The operators that are willing to work OT are burned out. We can't even fully staff a normal workweek much less 24/7. It's affecting everything. Roofing shingle lead times are measured in months from time of order to time of delivery. Try to buy furniture from one of the major sellers like Rooms to Go or Ashley. Again, delivery times stretch out for months. I ordered a dining table and four chairs before Thanksgiving, and I've finally got a scheduled delivery date of January 30th. Just more evidence of how the Powers That Be fucked up everything they could to derail the Trump Presidency and screw over honest Americans. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:55:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've said it multiple times, last time was last night, but there is 100% something else going on. It's got to be either an artificial or COVID-based raw materials shortage. The amount of "WTB" ads is disturbing, to say the least. It's not just Firearms, though. Look at the appliance repair man, who just a few days ago, told us to treat our appliances well as major parts for them are more than a month out. My favorite fun store has consolidated their shelves, I foresee my smaller LGS's (and thousands of others in the country) going under soon. There is absolutely something else afoot. Seems like war rationing would have felt. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:57:12 AM EDT
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This is the first shortage, of any kind, as gun owners we've ever experienced.
Every two to four years this happens. Whether in response to a mass shooting or an election American's God given right to keep and bear arms is always under attack. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:58:17 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everybody knows what’s about to happen. this.. mags are about to join the ammo situation. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:59:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve said it multiple times, last time was last night, but there is 100% something else going on. I've been trying unsuccessfully for 8-months to buy an American made big brake kit. They're on the web sites and they'll take your money but I only got month-after-month of delays. The factory in Chicago must be shut down. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:59:44 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An average year's worth of production from all manufacturers in the U.S. is typically 10-12 million guns. 2020's NICS check amount was almost 40M. How many states have CCW licenses that bypass NICS? What do you think the total number of guns purchased last year was? It had to be huge. There are some elements to that that aren't readily apparent. One NICS check can cover multiple firearms. NICS checks for private sales are now mandatory in some states. In other states, as you pointed out, a carry permit exempts the transfer from the NICS process. All the raw data confirms is that a lot of guns are changing owners |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:02:34 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love the recent calls from Rock River like yeah those 6 rifles you ordered, welp we can’t find any 1:9 CM barrels now is 1:7 cool? Charging handles, welp out of regular ones let’s go with radian if that’s what’s there today.... Things are soon to get even more scarce and it will get worse before it gets better! If it gets better... tens of millions of new gun owners, combined with aspects like some companies are not allowed into their businesses to make more barrels and parts has consequences... Hopefully companies like Agency survive.... months awaiting orders that cannot be fulfilled in the current climate will compound as chairman Biden “overseas” a National Great Reset agenda... Godspeed everyone... And what about that earthquake in Kazakhstan earlier USGS says never happened? History is unfolding! lol. theres a REALLY good chance that a year from now all of the companies you just mentioned will be closed and out of business, unless they manage to score a sweet gov contract to keep themselves in business, because they likely wont be making any civilian sales ever again. just the proposed feinstein ban could accomplish that alone. ban on new ar rifles and ban on ar spare parts, bans on new magazines, bans on this, bans on that, etc. if were REALLY lucky, we might be able to have the original manufacturer fix a broken extractor, etc, but quite possibly they wont be able to be sold to the public. its gonna be fucked up, i have zero doubt, because unlike republicans and their worthless promises, democrats seem to manage to get shit they want turned into law. |
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