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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:16:19 PM EDT
[#1]
You are the customer; if she isn't performing satisfactorily, find someone else. As long as you are paying for it, you can be as picky as you want.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:16:55 PM EDT
[#2]
You're going to find out that pretty much no one will clean the way you want it cleaned.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:17:26 PM EDT
[#3]
Get a new one.
The person with the best price and openings is cheap for a reason. Round ones take short cuts. Low body fat and energy will clean quickly. If body fat is too low they are on drugs. ETA: you’ll also find that round men in construction are usually the cheapest, take the longest to finish a job, and are more often late than on time. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:19:16 PM EDT
[#4]
The old adage “If you want something done right do it yourself” is true.
You can hardly expect a maid to go things the way you want the first time. Everyone has different expectations and ways they want their house cleaned. A stranger can’t be expected to read your mind and do it that way. Having had maids in foreign countries I have lived in, each takes some time to clean according to your taste. In time, they will get there though. You will know when you get one you can keep. Personalities weigh in heavily here. So yes, you were being picky. And yes, your expectations were too high. Next time you try, explain your expectations up front with the understanding that over time they will be met. Patience is important. Just my two cents, again, having had several maids. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:19:38 PM EDT
[#5]
It's nearly impossible to find anyone nowadays.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:20:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're going to find out that pretty much no one will clean the way you want it cleaned. I’m the opposite. My house cleaner is a pro. I let her do it her way. She’s the pro and I’m not going to tell her how to do her job. She spends 2 hours in the kitchen alone. Another hour in the master bath. It’s immaculate. She’s been cleaning for us for 15 years. Knows where all the guns are and that they’re loaded. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:21:56 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted: You're going to find out that pretty much no one will clean the way you want it cleaned. Quoted: The person with the best price and openings is cheap for a reason. Somewhere in between you might find something acceptable. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the customer; if she isn't performing satisfactorily, find someone else. As long as you are paying for it, you can be as picky as you want. im thinking about just having her do the floors. She only did the hardwood floors last week so she could sweep and mop the bathrooms, kitchen and vacuum the rooms might take a tad more than two hours but a big weight off my shoulders. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:23:02 PM EDT
[#9]
I'd find someone new. That said, I'm about to hire someone to clean my moms house. Probably less detailed than what you are looking for, but I have big reservations about it, for similar reasons you state.
I always seem to get screwed when I hire services. I need to hire someone to hire services for me. 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:23:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Alot of people buy homes and their respective yards based around what it takes to maintain/clean them.
A big house with a big yard is going to take alot of work to maintain and keep clean. I couldn't imagine paying someone to do this these things for me. Especially if you're just sitting at home watching over their shoulder while they do the work. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:23:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The old adage "If you want something done right do it yourself" is true. You can hardly expect a maid to go things the way you want the first time. Everyone has different expectations and ways they want their house cleaned. A stranger can't be expected to read your mind and do it that way. Having had maids in foreign countries I have lived in, each takes some time to clean according to your taste. In time, they will get there though. You will know when you get one you can keep. Personalities weigh in heavily here. So yes, you were being picky. And yes, your expectations were too high. Next time you try, explain your expectations up front with the understanding that over time they will be met. Patience is important. Just my two cents, again, having had several maids. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:25:32 PM EDT
[#12]
The ' rule of thumb ' means you can beat her with a stick no bigger than your thumb.
Do that, and see if she doesn't act straight. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:25:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Cleaning Woman?!!
 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:29:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alot of people buy homes and their respective yards based around what it takes to maintain/clean them. A big house with a big yard is going to take alot of work to maintain and keep clean. I couldn't imagine paying someone to do this these things for me. Especially if you're just sitting at home watching over their shoulder while they do the work. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. *ETA* I took the day off to meet her and show her around. Normally I would be at work. We've owned our home since 1994 and have aged since then. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:31:15 PM EDT
[#15]
I'd try to find someone new before you contemplate getting rid of her, and maybe a trial run at that.
My mom was absolutely picky with the dusting. No one ever did it to her satisfaction. People joke about holding flashlights for their dad, well, I had to dust for my mom. And got fired. I am still impacted by those experiences later in life. I feel my moms yelling when I see dust in my house. I deal with it once in a while and before she visits. My wife laughs at me when I am hitting things with canned air before she arrives. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:34:25 PM EDT
[#16]
I might give her a second chance with the explicit instructions that she do it your way, even though her way is “better”.
Either that or buy a robot vac. We have 2200 square feet of wood and I do the floors. I run it twice a week or so and every 2 weeks do a manual job. Makes it easier, but it’s not perfect. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:34:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd try to find someone new before you contemplate getting rid of her, and maybe a trial run at that. My mom was absolutely picky with the dusting. No one ever did it to her satisfaction. People joke about holding flashlights for their dad, well, I had to dust for my mom. And got fired. I am still impacted by those experiences later in life. I feel my moms yelling when I see dust in my house. I deal with it once in a while and before she visits. My wife laughs at me when I am hitting things with canned air before she arrives. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:35:00 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're going to find out that pretty much no one will clean the way you want it cleaned. Yep. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:35:06 PM EDT
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Our house cleaner came with the house. She is Native American and has worked at hotels. She KNOWS what she is doing. She’ll WILL take suggestions on new projects. Works inside one day and outside another. Overall no complaints. A good disposition
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:36:38 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I might give her a second chance with the explicit instructions that she do it your way, even though her way is "better". Either that or buy a robot vac. We have 2200 square feet of wood and I do the floors. I run it twice a week or so and every 2 weeks do a manual job. Makes it easier, but it's not perfect. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:36:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously? It's too high of an expectation to expect it to be clean when she's done? Is that where we are in the world? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The old adage "If you want something done right do it yourself" is true. You can hardly expect a maid to go things the way you want the first time. Everyone has different expectations and ways they want their house cleaned. A stranger can't be expected to read your mind and do it that way. Having had maids in foreign countries I have lived in, each takes some time to clean according to your taste. In time, they will get there though. You will know when you get one you can keep. Personalities weigh in heavily here. So yes, you were being picky. And yes, your expectations were too high. Next time you try, explain your expectations up front with the understanding that over time they will be met. Patience is important. Just my two cents, again, having had several maids. For a first time out, and to your exact preference? Yes. It may take a few times for her to learn your cleaning preferences. There is a learning curve. Please re-read my post. You kind of have to train them up. It’s why people don’t like getting rid of maids. It’s a personal thing cleaning your private living area the way you like it. Give her a bit of time to learn how you want it done. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:37:01 PM EDT
[#22]
What's a connivence store? Is it where you can go to purchase criminals to do work for you? I think that's half your problem right there. You hired a conniver so clearly they're going to do shit wrong.
Secondly...  clean your own fucking house. 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:37:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd try to find someone new before you contemplate getting rid of her, and maybe a trial run at that. My mom was absolutely picky with the dusting. No one ever did it to her satisfaction. People joke about holding flashlights for their dad, well, I had to dust for my mom. And got fired. I am still impacted by those experiences later in life. I feel my moms yelling when I see dust in my house. I deal with it once in a while and before she visits. My wife laughs at me when I am hitting things with canned air before she arrives. Battery powered leaf blowers work wonders at dislodging dust. [NEVER use a 2 smoker leaf blower inside though it can be used inside the wife's ride on occasion to clean the french fries and other offal from under and in between the seats.] A HUGE bonus is that they will NEVER ask you to help dust again after you destroy her ''fru fru shit'' collection. OTOH, your response should be ''it worked great on my gun display'' thus giving you an opportunity to buy more because they aren't as easily damaged like her English bone china plate and saucer collection was. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:37:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Cleaning the high stuff 1st then the floors is common sense.
I hired maids to clean my house before it sold. It looked and smelled clean to me but my wife was pissed because they missed the tops of windows and shit like that. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:40:46 PM EDT
[#25]
First world problems...
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:42:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Isn't a vacuum cleaner motor going to blow just as much dust around as a broom? Shut your fans off while cleaning if you're concerned about circulating dust.
Also, maybe you should leave or find something else to do while she's cleaning. If I encounter the cleaners, I say hi, then promptly make my self scarce. If they miss something or screw up, my wife calls their boss. I would never dream of following them around and telling them they're doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:43:43 PM EDT
[#27]
House cleaning is driven by the expectations of the customer base at large. It's generational slide. The stuff most house cleaners do is "extra" by the standards of the majority today. If they swipe a baseboard with a damp rag, or dust anything, that's practically a "deep clean."
I admit, dusting does piss me off though. I feel like 2023 should have an answer for it. I get that people, pets, upholstery, clothes, & outside all contribute... but the perpetual return makes me angry. I've taken to using an electric leaf blower indoors, while running a HEPA shop-vac, & running the furnace blower with a different sticky filter. Almost nobody should have carpet, anywhere, and all rugs should be machine washable. All non-leather furniture should be Ikea-style modular slipcovers that are machine washable. Most people sweep/vaccum weekly... maybe? Wash/mop... monthly or less, when it's "bad" and actually looks like it needs it. Light fixtures, picture frames, tops of windowsills & window frames dusted? Like... never, except when painting or changing window treatments, blinds & curtains every decade or so. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:47:31 PM EDT
[#28]
My maids do a good job. They come once a month.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:49:20 PM EDT
[#29]
If the maid is paid by the hour then she needs to do everything asked of her (within the limits of danger). Obviously being more thorough takes more time and it benefits the maid. A flat rate job requires agreement on the tasks.
If she is half-assing and she's paid by the hour, then fire her ass. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:54:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: House cleaning is driven by the expectations of the customer base at large. It's generational slide. The stuff most house cleaners do is "extra" by the standards of the majority today. If they swipe a baseboard with a damp rag, or dust anything, that's practically a "deep clean." I admit, dusting does piss me off though. I feel like 2023 should have an answer for it. I get that people, pets, upholstery, clothes, & outside all contribute... but the perpetual return makes me angry. I've taken to using an electric leaf blower indoors, while running a HEPA shop-vac, & running the furnace blower with a different sticky filter. Almost nobody should have carpet, anywhere, and all rugs should be machine washable. All non-leather furniture should be Ikea-style modular slipcovers that are machine washable. Most people sweep/vaccum weekly... maybe? Wash/mop... monthly or less, when it's "bad" and actually looks like it needs it. Light fixtures, picture frames, tops of windowsills & window frames dusted? Like... never, except when painting or changing window treatments, blinds & curtains every decade or so.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:55:36 PM EDT
[#31]
You're right, not picky......and she's a moron.
I dust first cuz it makes sense.....now, sometimes sweeping and even other stuff might blow dust around - where I wanna dust after doing the floors...BUT, still I believe dusting before is better than after. And yes, I agree to vacuum more than sweep. The sweeping mostly blows stuff up in the air and by the time you're done sweeping, a lot of it is back on the ground. And....like others said, it's your fucking house, she's the help. She isn't there to tell you how to clean your house. All employers give instructions to their employees on how to do shit. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:57:56 PM EDT
[#32]
I figured a rule of thumb for maids is that they wear a sexy french maids outfit. Highly disappointing thread.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:58:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right, not picky......and she's a moron. I dust first cuz it makes sense.....now, sometimes sweeping and even other stuff might blow dust around - where I wanna dust after doing the floors...BUT, still I believe dusting before is better than after. And yes, I agree to vacuum more than sweep. The sweeping mostly blows stuff up in the air and by the time you're done sweeping, a lot of it is back on the ground. And....like others said, it's your fucking house, she's the help. She isn't there to tell you how to clean your house. All employers give instructions to their employees on how to do shit. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:59:54 PM EDT
[#34]
then do it yourself.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:00:39 PM EDT
[#35]
My wife still misses this one maid we had a ways back. When you have a good one, it's a precious thing. She is paranoid about letting anyone into the house to clean now, too much drama before and since. Fortunately, we have a pretty small place.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:01:39 PM EDT
[#36]
Wait, rule of thumb? In the early 1900s it was legal for men to beat their wives, as long as they used a stick no wider than their thumb.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:04:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For a first time out, and to your exact preference? Yes. It may take a few times for her to learn your cleaning preferences. There is a learning curve. Please re-read my post. You kind of have to train them up. It's why people don't like getting rid of maids. It's a personal thing cleaning your private living area the way you like it. Give her a bit of time to learn how you want it done. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The old adage "If you want something done right do it yourself" is true. You can hardly expect a maid to go things the way you want the first time. Everyone has different expectations and ways they want their house cleaned. A stranger can't be expected to read your mind and do it that way. Having had maids in foreign countries I have lived in, each takes some time to clean according to your taste. In time, they will get there though. You will know when you get one you can keep. Personalities weigh in heavily here. So yes, you were being picky. And yes, your expectations were too high. Next time you try, explain your expectations up front with the understanding that over time they will be met. Patience is important. Just my two cents, again, having had several maids. For a first time out, and to your exact preference? Yes. It may take a few times for her to learn your cleaning preferences. There is a learning curve. Please re-read my post. You kind of have to train them up. It's why people don't like getting rid of maids. It's a personal thing cleaning your private living area the way you like it. Give her a bit of time to learn how you want it done. and seriously what's up with the "Clean your own house crowd?" F that. I can use the help and I am paying for a service. WTF? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:07:58 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're going to find out that pretty much no one will clean the way you want it cleaned. Ditto. As far as I'm concerned: To provide a 'professionally cleaned' receipt to a landlord, Between AirBnB guests, and Big place, lotsa money, cameras, regular schedule. Anything besides that, they're useless. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:07:59 PM EDT
[#39]
I’d dump her. When shopping around for the new maid ask them how they clean. Top to bottom? Dust under or around? Find one that does it the way you like or understands from the get go what you expect.
I’m a clean freak and have very high standards. Especially when you are paying someone to do a job. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:15:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Rule of thumb, tell them what you want done, go do something else.
They will either do a good job, or they won't. If they don't do a good enough job, get someone else. As far as dusting, if you want everything moved, have them move everything. It's your money, your time. You will find someone who will it for the right price. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:24:56 PM EDT
[#41]
My guess is she won't be back so you needn't worry about it.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:44:24 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're going to find out that pretty much no one will clean the way you want it cleaned.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:48:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes my mother traumatized me over making my bed. She ripped the covers off of it about 25 times before I finally asked what exactly she wanted. She had never taught me to make it. I did follow her example with my kids but I showed them first what I expected and 90% of the time they did a fine job. Every now and then I had to send them back to redo something. Mommy Dearest? What was her opinion on clothes hangers? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:50:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Our cleaning lady doesn't dust, doesn't move furniture or clean underneath furniture, has damaged several things about the house, etc.
She's only still employed because 1) she hasn't stolen anything and 2) she cleans houses for several of my wife's friends and my wife is worried she would make up stories as to why we don't need her services. iRobot makes a robot mop, to go with their robot vacuum line. OP might be interested in that. Kharn |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:57:38 PM EDT
[#45]
I have a childhood friend that recently lost her job cleaning our house. She comes once a month and it has worked good so far.
She prefers to come more often, and originally said that she may have to charge more for once a month if the house is too messy when she gets there, but she admitted that our house is fine with once a month now 4 months into it. We don't have young kids or pets... My biggest thing is finding someone I can trust in the home alone. I will leave a key out and the alarm off on the day she comes if I am going to be out. Then she will lock up and activate the alarm when she leaves. She can see our security system with cameras in action, even though I trust her 100%. She is not perfect, but will allow me to ask for special attention to areas I think could look better without saying "I know best" |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:01:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the customer; if she isn't performing satisfactorily, find someone else. As long as you are paying for it, you can be as picky as you want. Bingo But we were expected to pre-clean a bit, like picking stuff off the floor. But, don't harp in how she does it. It's her job. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:01:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Find someone that knows how to clean.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:01:58 PM EDT
[#48]
I hired this one, she does a good job.
 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:02:00 PM EDT
[#49]
If you want something done right
do it yourself |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:07:43 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the customer; if she isn't performing satisfactorily, find someone else. As long as you are paying for it, you can be as picky as you want. |
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