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Posted: 2/20/2020 10:58:11 AM EDT
Amigos,

I'd like to hear from those of you who have run these two brands over the 200k mark (preferably higher). If you own a high mileage 07+ 5.7 tundra, a 2012+ 3.5 or 5.0 F150, or a 6.8(3v)/6.2l F-250 please let me know what your experience has been with reliability (major engine/tranny/drivetrain/electrical repairs) and build quality.

The truck will be be driven 20-25k miles per year to and from work, with occasional towing around 8k lbs and hauling stuff in the bed and transporting our family of 6 to and fro and occasionally off road. Better fuel economy would be nice, but isn't necessary. Reliability is the item of biggest importance, with interior space, payload, and MPG coming in in that order.

I currently have an 06 Tundra Double cab 4x4 and it has given me virtually zero problems over the last several years I've owned it other than getting lackluster gas mileage (13mpg  hand calculated with 34" tires). Unfortunately we have outgrown it, otherwise I would keep it until it falls apart. Cheapest option would be to keep it and try to find a front bench seat, but so far no dice. That and stuffing 3 child seats in the back has been a tight squeeze.

I historically have only purchased cash trucks in the $8k-12k price range with more than 100-150k on the odometer. I've managed not get screwed with major repairs other than normal wearable items (brakes/suspension joints/bearings, etc...) the last few I've done this and have had a very low cost of ownership since I'm buying towards the bottom of the depreciation curve. I'm hoping to maintain this tradition with some guidance from y'all who have owned your vehicles for many miles. My biggest question is: should I stick with the newer Tundra and sacrifice interior/bed space (the regular double cab has less leg room than my first gen, super crew has 5'bed) or will a f150/F-250 provide similar reliability and low repair cost as a comparable yota.

Gracias
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 6:15:39 PM EDT
[#1]
I have friends that have/had just under the 200,000 mile mark on both Ford and Toyota without "major" issues.  To me it's more a question of knowing the complete history/maintenance of the vehicle not so much if it's a Ford or a Toyota.  You'll have replies on both sides stating their Ford is over 200,000 miles or their Toyota is over 200,000.  Or their Ford blew up at 50,000 or their Toyota blew up at 90,000.

I'd rather have a one owner Ford with 200,000 miles with complete history than a four owner 200,000 mile Tundra off the corner lot and vice versa.
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 7:33:36 PM EDT
[#2]
always buy one owner.    always.
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 10:30:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Two trucks, equal owners, equal care, equal usage?

Toyota
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 8:22:22 AM EDT
[#4]
In my area rust often kills both brands long before the trucks are worn out. Assuming your not in an area that has rust issues, I would say Toyota. At 200k the maintenance history would be critical. Toyotas are good but still need to be maintained if you want to see that high mileage.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 8:23:57 AM EDT
[#5]
While not the same engine as you’re inquiring about I have a 2000 Land Cruiser with 258k on it and with the usual maintenance it’ll probably run for another 250k
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 12:56:38 PM EDT
[#6]
The Ford modular motors (5.4/6.8) like to break exhaust studs.  The 6.8 is thirsty too.  However, they are pretty reliable.  My 2000 Excursion has 230k miles and still runs fine.

Toyotas are reliable as well, but have really low payload capacities.  Like: less than a minivan.  4x4 Crew cabs are less than 1,400lbs.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 1:41:42 PM EDT
[#7]
No Toyota experience.

Only know of two old Ford PUs.

Mine was at 251,000 miles when I screwed up and traded it in on a new 2010 Fusion for my wife (should have traded in the Blazer instead).

My cousin is still driving his and last he told me he was at 340,000 miles.  He has been through a few clutches though, he's rough on clutches.

Mine had the original drive train from the fan on the front of the engine to the rear bumper.  Replaced rusted out gas tanks, rusted out rear spring mounts (the back ones), radiator, hoses, thermostats, batteries, heater core, radio, spark plugs, one ball joint, rear brake drums/shoes, front pads, front calipers/brake hoses and all the brake lines.  Man, I should have kept that truck.  The 05 Silverado likes to be worked on, too much.  Spent more money on it in the last few years than on the F150 in 20 years.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 6:16:59 PM EDT
[#8]
2010 F150 SCREW 4X4.
257K.
Regular maintenance.
Battery.
Belt.
Still going strong. Do think it's time to do the spark plugs though
Had a 1998 Z71 before that and got rid of it at 300k when it developed a knock.
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 6:35:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Resale value says it all.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 11:38:33 PM EDT
[#10]
My brothers 2008 F150 with the crappy 5.4 turned over 420k on the original motor and transmission.  It sounds down right scary on a cold start but the damn thing keeps running.

My 2015 F150 platinum 4x4 with the 5.0 has 174k and been trouble free.  It averages around 16 mpg but I’m bad about leaving it idling.  Zero oil consumption and oil changes done at the dealer every 5k.

I’ve had wonderful service in the past with Tundras but the Ford trucks are nicer in my opinion.
Link Posted: 2/24/2020 11:44:23 PM EDT
[#11]
If you search around i believe that there are several million mile Tundras out there.  I don't know about F150's in that range.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:02:08 PM EDT
[#12]
This one is going to be tons of personal opinions and experiences.

When I worked for a state agency we had roughly 5,000 F150's. Most of those were comprised of the F250 LD and F150 7700 (last major PO was in 2004 for the 7700s). Roughly 3,000 trucks were Chevrolet Silverados (04-08) and about 1500 Dodge pickups (most were 94-01s but some were 04-07s). On average...the Ford's were in the shop for repairs twice as often as the GM or Dodges. We were also lucky to see 80,000 miles out of an EOD4 which was odd considering these trucks mostly idled. That experience plus previous experiences with personal F150s and F250s pretty much swore me off of the blue oval. I limped an 04 7700 in with 86,000 miles and a blown transmission, an 06 F150 in with 54,000 miles and a blown transmission, another 04 7700 caught on fire on me (that was a short circuit issue of a Whelen light bar...not a manufacturer issue) and then was put back together and lasted another few weeks until the engine blew at 84,000 miles. After that someone wised up and gave me an 06 Silverado with 164,000 on it...still had the original engine and transmission and it was the truck I turned in on my last day. Both of the 7700s were sold at auction after I brought them in, each having over 15,000 hrs on the engines and to be fair roughly 9,000 of those hours were on LP as all of the state trucks were operated on LP for 10 or 12 years starting in the late 90's.

Anyway, I swore off of Ford after that and haven't looked back. For my next truck I would honestly look at Toyota if I were in the market for a half ton (I need something heavier). Just my opinion based on my experiences. Take it at face value as I haven't been willing to try the newer Fords as a result of my experiences with the older ones.
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