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Posted: 1/18/2021 2:10:54 PM EDT
Many people who are not notably loony seem to be sincerely terrified and stunned by 1/6. One of them, for example, is my wife. Another is a good friend who is a liberal of the muscular old school "we're all in this together" type with little inclination toward coercion. He is very bright and generally has good sense. They seem to feel ("feel" is the right word here) about 1/6 much as everybody felt about 9/11, if on a smaller scale. They are shocked, frightened, and filled with foreboding, and it seems genuine.

I have a very hard time seeing 1/6 as any sort of a big deal. It was (leaving aside the possible false flag/agents provocateur aspect) unplanned, unorganized, and presented no threat to anything but decorum. There is a mere possibility that one person (the policeman) was killed by an act of the demonstrators. Other deaths were by natural causes or state-sanctioned murder. I doubt that anyone who supports actual insurrection considers the event successful or even meaningful. After all, the left once set off a bomb where the 1/6ers only trespassed (Obama pardoned one of those responsible), set off dozens or hundreds of bombs elsewhere, and killed lots of police officers and others. 1/6 was neither new nor noteworthy. The point here is not "what about;" the point is context. Taken with events from the Whiskey Rebellion to the purposeful destruction and disruption of private property and private lives in the Summer riots, 1/6 barely merits a mention. It was trivial.

I understand the upset the fools and knaves in Congress are experiencing. They are accustomed to engaging in reckless self-dealing, destructive egotism, and betrayal of the Republic without fear of personal consequence, and 1/6 raised in their minds the theoretical possibility that they could, in the words of St. Paul, "receive in themselves the due penalty for their error." I understand very well the motivation of those Reichstag Firemen who for political advantage pretend to tremble and grieve. I do not understand why anyone else is disturbed by the event.

Anybody have any insight?
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:13:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Where do they get their news?  If they believe that CNN, MSNBC, etc are all spitting truth....fearmongering works.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:14:25 PM EDT
[#2]
Some people got pushed too far, got ignored by their masters, and then did something to get noticed.

ETA:
TL/DR:  Some people did something.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:15:20 PM EDT
[#3]
In plain english:

The left has made it quite clear in various media that they want conservatives or republicans lives/livelihoods destroyed.

Their feet are on the gas pedal right now.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:16:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Misleading vividness in the MSM.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:17:19 PM EDT
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This. Its being instilled in them.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:17:38 PM EDT
[#6]
The bullied kid hit back.

The bullies never imagined that to even be possible.

Now the bullies are terrified.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:19:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Our country was founded on violence.  I love all these assholes saying there is NEVER any excuse for violence.  

What the fuck do they think war is?

Oh that’s right, violence is perfectly acceptable when it suits them or makes them money.

The fact that these corrupt assholes are so indignant speaks volumes on how they view themselves.

The fact that so many dipshits are parroting what they are saying speaks volumes on how deep the MSM brainwashing is.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:20:52 PM EDT
[#8]
The same retards that think masks will stop covid are believing 1/6 was akin to 9/11. Think about the source and idiots that believe said sources.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:22:04 PM EDT
[#9]
The congress critters are/were definitely afraid.  DC is presently an armed camp.  Worse they know we saw them as afraid.


1/6 had all the dangers of a adolescent prank that got out of control.  Yes the storming was likely planned by near do wells, what happened inside was more like comical chaos, excepting for the two murders.

They are determined to destroy Trump as a brand name.  I predict they will instead make a martyr out of him.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:22:14 PM EDT
[#10]
Most people aren’t hysterical.

It’s the people on the far far right and far far left who are losing their minds.

The folks in the middle are all wondering the same thing.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease sort of thing.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:23:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Pornography isn't just sexual in nature anymore.  Fear and Doom can be just as pornographic.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:25:45 PM EDT
[#12]
It's because a lot of people were forced to consider the fact that their omnipotent govt really is at the mercy of the people, rather than granted some divine authority.

Deep down, they really believe that they cannot survive without an oppressive govt that protects them from themselves.  If that falls, all of society shall laydown and die.

People have grown accustomed to not being responsible for themselves because the govt has always been there as a safety net.

That was threatened and they're scared.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:30:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Nancy Pelosi called the Capitol a "temple."  If it is a temple, then she views herself and the other politicos there as gods, and gods are accountable to no one.  D.C. politicians HATE their constituents and have utter contempt for regular citizens.

Like the gods from Greek mythology, they seek to lord over us, and any actual resistance to their tyrannical edicts scares and angers them, and results in the citizens receiving their wrath.

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:35:02 PM EDT
[#14]
I will never not enjoy an opportunity to watch a politician (or a room of them) collectively and literally piss their pants, and for that, I salute you, Mr. MAGA Q Shaman.

I have also enjoyed watching news snippets of "violent riots", where the footage shows 3 or 4 people milling about in a room at the Capitol.

I knew full well the games they would play with it even at the time, but I believe it's pointless to even care- they were going to frame anyone opposed to Biden as a domestic terrorist anyway, and were well prepared to dive back into late 80s / early 90s talk of siccing the fed boys on "militias" and white nationalists. This is a wonderful opportunity for them to overplay their hand, and at least give us fodder a year or two from now for the midterms. Of course, it's not like the Republicans have shown themselves to be much better, as this was just a convenient spot for them to distance themselves from Trump, but I still will enjoy watching them soil their depends.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:36:21 PM EDT
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Nancy Pelosi called the Capitol a "temple."  If it is a temple, then she views herself and the other politicos there as gods, and gods are accountable to no one.  D.C. politicians HATE their constituents and have utter contempt for regular citizens.

Like the gods from Greek mythology, they seek to lord over us, and any actual resistance to their tyrannical edicts scares and angers them, and results in the citizens receiving their wrath.

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Yes they believe they are High Priests.

The cop that chatted up Buffalo Soldier as he sauntered in, told him he was violating the "sacredest place."
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:38:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Corn-Pop was a good judge of character.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:39:31 PM EDT
[#17]
It really was a big deal... lawmakers who previously thought themselves untouchable found out they really aren't.

The lie is that it was either a "insurgent domestic terror attack on sacred ground" on one side or a "peaceful, harmless and justified protest for the cause of freedom" on the other.

The truth is that it was a clusterfuck of screwups screwing up on all sides and an event we will all feel negative repercussions from for a long time to come.

It never should have happened.

RIP Ashli Babbitt.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:41:19 PM EDT
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They say that conservatives are conservative because we have an overdeveloped sensitivity to threats and risks. Perhaps that awareness lends a certain familiarity to the sensation.

Liberals tend to live in condition white.  There are no threats or risks. Of course, the news keeps telling them that the far right activists are most dangerous threat to America, they can believe it without fearing it, because they've never seen it.

So when something looks remotely like a threat, the one that they've been warned about, it hits them harder as they aren't accustomed to thinking about it.

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:41:42 PM EDT
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Many people who are not notably loony seem to be sincerely terrified and stunned by 1/6. One of them, for example, is my wife. Another is a good friend who is a liberal of the muscular old school "we're all in this together" type with little inclination toward coercion. He is very bright and generally has good sense. They seem to feel ("feel" is the right word here) about 1/6 much as everybody felt about 9/11, if on a smaller scale. They are shocked, frightened, and filled with foreboding, and it seems genuine.

I have a very hard time seeing 1/6 as any sort of a big deal. It was (leaving aside the possible false flag/agents provocateur aspect) unplanned, unorganized, and presented no threat to anything but decorum. There is a mere possibility that one person (the policeman) was killed by an act of the demonstrators. Other deaths were by natural causes or state-sanctioned murder. I doubt that anyone who supports actual insurrection considers the event successful or even meaningful. After all, the left once set off a bomb where the 1/6ers only trespassed (Obama pardoned one of those responsible), set off dozens or hundreds of bombs elsewhere, and killed lots of police officers and others. 1/6 was neither new nor noteworthy. The point here is not "what about;" the point is context. Taken with events from the Whiskey Rebellion to the purposeful destruction and disruption of private property and private lives in the Summer riots, 1/6 barely merits a mention. It was trivial.

I understand the upset the fools and knaves in Congress are experiencing. They are accustomed to engaging in reckless self-dealing, destructive egotism, and betrayal of the Republic without fear of personal consequence, and 1/6 raised in their minds the theoretical possibility that they could, in the words of St. Paul, "receive in themselves the due penalty for their error." I understand very well the motivation of those Reichstag Firemen who for political advantage pretend to tremble and grieve. I do not understand why anyone else is disturbed by the event.

Anybody have any insight?
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As per the news reports, they're convinced that the protesters went to DC with the intention of killing politicians
That would be a serious allegation directed at anyone.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:43:46 PM EDT
[#20]
The 06 JAN incident at the Capitol was an exercise in restraint.  What has people terrified is the realization that had the folks inside the building been really pissed off, the place would have been ransacked and burned to the ground.

The sleeping giant may have awakened on the 6th, but he didn't get out of bed.  People are scared shitless about that day coming.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:45:04 PM EDT
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The bullied kid hit back.

The bullies never imagined that to even be possible.

Now the bullies are terrified.
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This is precisely how I see it.

My dad and grandpa, who watch nothing but ABC/CBS "news"... naturally, their opinion is further off than mine. Difference is, I was actually watching it happen on about half a dozen livestreams vs. the doctored versions hours/days later online.

Funny part, my dad's favorite phrase when watching political bullshit growing up was "they keep this shit up and I'm gonna have to find a tree to climb," in veiled reference to the obvious, yet now he's denigrating the shit out of the people who did the small pre-cursory action to climbing said tree...
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:45:12 PM EDT
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Many people who are not notably loony seem to be sincerely terrified and stunned by 1/6. One of them, for example, is my wife. Another is a good friend who is a liberal of the muscular old school "we're all in this together" type with little inclination toward coercion. He is very bright and generally has good sense. They seem to feel ("feel" is the right word here) about 1/6 much as everybody felt about 9/11, if on a smaller scale. They are shocked, frightened, and filled with foreboding, and it seems genuine.

I have a very hard time seeing 1/6 as any sort of a big deal. It was (leaving aside the possible false flag/agents provocateur aspect) unplanned, unorganized, and presented no threat to anything but decorum. There is a mere possibility that one person (the policeman) was killed by an act of the demonstrators. Other deaths were by natural causes or state-sanctioned murder. I doubt that anyone who supports actual insurrection considers the event successful or even meaningful. After all, the left once set off a bomb where the 1/6ers only trespassed (Obama pardoned one of those responsible), set off dozens or hundreds of bombs elsewhere, and killed lots of police officers and others. 1/6 was neither new nor noteworthy. The point here is not "what about;" the point is context. Taken with events from the Whiskey Rebellion to the purposeful destruction and disruption of private property and private lives in the Summer riots, 1/6 barely merits a mention. It was trivial.

I understand the upset the fools and knaves in Congress are experiencing. They are accustomed to engaging in reckless self-dealing, destructive egotism, and betrayal of the Republic without fear of personal consequence, and 1/6 raised in their minds the theoretical possibility that they could, in the words of St. Paul, "receive in themselves the due penalty for their error." I understand very well the motivation of those Reichstag Firemen who for political advantage pretend to tremble and grieve. I do not understand why anyone else is disturbed by the event.

Anybody have any insight?
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Yes, it's because they know as well as we do that it's all a lie (election) and it rests mainly on their shoulders.


4 years of bullshit, lies and division is coming home to roost.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:47:33 PM EDT
[#23]
I notice the same thing as the original poster. Some in my family are terrified of this when I think it was actually a good think the protesters did.

I put it towards the media of course who control what everyone thinks.

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:48:14 PM EDT
[#24]
If you listen to the news, there were bodies 3 deep on the steps of the Capitol, the walls ran red with blood, and the building was stormed by 1,000 rifle-wielding terrorists that were only stopped from Mussolini-ing Congress by the brave capitol police that turned everything around by killing one of the insurrectionists, who then Sir Robbin'd their way out - fleeing the city in terror as the heroes stood tall on the Capitol steps in a Superman pose while staring bravely off in to the horizon.

If things went down the way the media said and it was submitted as a screenplay, it would be rejected for being trite, cliched, unbelievable, and reading like it was written by three 12 yo boys writing an action script while on a koolaid and redbull sugar bender.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:52:48 PM EDT
[#25]
The outrage is fake.

The fear is being instilled.

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:56:09 PM EDT
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The bullied kid hit back.

The bullies never imagined that to even be possible.

Now the bullies are terrified.
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No. The bullies followers are terrified. The bullies continue to push, poke and prod. They want violence so they can really take control.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:56:43 PM EDT
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This. CNN, NBC, etc. were reporting that the protestors were formed into "assassination squads", even as "the authorities" were stating that there was no evidence to support the idea.  Same bogus media outlets were reporting that a massive number of weapons were carried into the capital, again as those with actual knowledge stated few guns were found.

The news is creating a massive false flag at the same time they are accusing Trump of making up lies about the election.  It's the application of Rules for Radicals to a T.  The question is what will come from the false flag - the answer is likely a Patriot Act 2.0 wherein they take away rights and go after domestic terrorists.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 2:58:54 PM EDT
[#28]
Short answer is people are pretty fucking stupid,they don't read or understand  history and they condition themselves to believe whatever their favorite propagandist tells them 24-7. Critical thinking and the ability to be an individual is mostly gone in this world and we are truly adopting the herd/sheep/lemming mentality.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:00:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Basically, the privileged class got a taste of what the rest of America went through last summer, and they decided they didn't like it at all.  They wanted to have a "Let them eat cake mindset" but didn't want the consequences of said mindset.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:01:53 PM EDT
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The bullied kid hit back.

The bullies never imagined that to even be possible.

Now the bullies are terrified.
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Pretty much this.  And now the bullies are running around town screaming they’ve been bullied, see look at my bloody nose!

As others have said, if they get their news from main stream media, then that’s their problem.  

People who don’t read the news papers are uninformed.  People who read the newspapers are misinformed.  

- Mark Twain
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:02:30 PM EDT
[#31]
This thread may help to explain things.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2394735_They-ve-been-telling-you-what-to-think-for-100-years-UPDAYDEDD-.html

ETA:

TL:DR; most people are media zombies that have their thoughts & world view shaped entirely by what other people tell them. The application of psychology through propaganda has been well understood for a century, and has only gotten more effective over time.

As for politicians being fearful? I think most of that is just more kabuki theater. Maybe some new, and naive members don’t see the big picture, but the established order have to know what’s going on, otherwise they might say something out of line that causes the mask to come off prematurely.

Of course I could be wrong, and this is just another long series of unfortunate coincidences. Who knows?

This event has an eerie similarity to the Bonus March. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_137/2414930_What-round-for-Bonus-Army-.html
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:05:48 PM EDT
[#32]
First, understand that government as you see it is a hollow shell and representative government is dead. We are ruled by banks and corporations who have been building a global control structure for centuries. They run the US out of the executive branch agencies using regulation and billions and billions of dollars of untaxed corporate money funneled through NGOs. Money that Sec. Mnuchin just regulated our ability to monitor away because he said it serves no public interest. Right down to your local police department and water authority. They have controlled the global money supply for a thousand years, and by extension virtually every government and every trading relationship. They created the US as an income property by paying off the debt of The Crown and being given the Virginia Company. They engineered the Evolutionary War to keep The Crown from taking a bigger cut. They engineered virtually every war. The Commies are a construct. Money is the weapon, we give them our energy and they give us tokens to spend in the company store. By design, we have been stripped of our inability to become self reliant. As individuals, as a country. The world's ability to produce what they need outside the structure has been taken way so they can make us comply or they will turn off the tap.

The current situation is just part of the ongoing destabilization of the country. The money men want everyone divided, fighting, and not knowing who to believe. Covid response is a training exercise. We are being conditioned to comply. Money and goods are the weapons. When Plandemic 3.0 or whatever hits and people start seeing bodies lying in parking lots or on the city sidewalk what will they do to retain access to money and stuff?
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:09:10 PM EDT
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This. Its being instilled in them.
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Where do they get their news?  If they believe that CNN, MSNBC, etc are all spitting truth....fearmongering works.

This. Its being instilled in them.
This

MSM and those that control it, are the real enemy.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:10:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
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First, understand that government as you see it is a hollow shell and representative government is dead. We are ruled by banks and corporations who have been building a global control structure for centuries. They run the US out of the executive branch agencies using regulation and billions and billions of dollars of untaxed corporate money funneled through NGOs. Money that Sec. Mnuchin just regulated our ability to monitor away because he said it serves no public interest. Right down to your local police department and water authority. They have controlled the global money supply for a thousand years, and by extension virtually every government and every trading relationship. They created the US as an income property by paying off the debt of The Crown and being given the Virginia Company. They engineered the Evolutionary War to keep The Crown from taking a bigger cut. They engineered virtually every war. The Commies are a construct. Money is the weapon, we give them our energy and they give us tokens to spend in the company store. By design, we have been stripped of our inability to become self reliant. As individuals, as a country. The world's ability to produce what they need outside the structure has been taken way so they can make us comply or they will turn off the tap.

The current situation is just part of the ongoing destabilization of the country. The money men want everyone divided, fighting, and not knowing who to believe. Covid response is a training exercise. We are being conditioned to comply. Money and goods are the weapons. When Plandemic 3.0 or whatever hits and people start seeing bodies lying in parking lots or on the city sidewalk what will they do to retain access to money and stuff?
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Paying serious dividends...




The power of information...




Trade routes...

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:12:29 PM EDT
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Just tell them that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.  No justice, no peace.  If you want to avoid a repetition of 1/6, work to make elections free, fair and honest.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:12:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Mental illness is a thing.

Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:14:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Like the DC police, the outraged/fearful folks thought that a crowd of mostly middle-age, white guys would march around, wave some flags, make some noise, clean up their trash and go back home.  Didn't quite work out that way.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:20:39 PM EDT
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Most Americans truly are "low information" people.  They only believe what they see and hear from the mainstream media.  The mainstream media is pumping up the false narrative that the January 6th protest was a true attempt at capturing and killing every present-day member of government except Trump.  If that's all you know, then why would you NOT be afraid?  

As for those in Congress - they honestly DO think that the crowds wanted to kill them.  They KNOW what they're guilty of, and just like an evil man flees when no one pursues, they know that they deserve death and so they think that it's around every corner.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:23:08 PM EDT
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As usual, FPNI. The propaganda machine is running full bore and has made this out to be a major event, an insurrection mounted by Trump supporters.

If you still believe the media, you buy in.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 3:31:53 PM EDT
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I read that Biden molested Corn-pops little sister.
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