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Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
There is a fuel cap for the Predator series, and probably the Champion too. The Predator version was discussed earlier in the thread several pages back. The external tank will work if the tank is higher than the generator so it can gravity feed. View Quote http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35082 https://www.powerequipmentforum.com/forum/9-generator-forum/18618-harborfreight-predator-3500-inverter-generatore-5.html#post63228 https://www.powerequipmentforum.com/forum/9-generator-forum/21122-help-predator-3500-invert-generator-fouling-spark-plugs.html The fix for using the extended run is to either cap or clamp the line mentioned. If using a stock cap, youll have to unclamp/uncap or drill a vent hole in it. |
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Originally Posted By cucamelsmd15:
Sort of, yes. The problem (at least for the Predator 3500, cant speak for the Champion) is the vents. http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35082 https://www.powerequipmentforum.com/forum/9-generator-forum/18618-harborfreight-predator-3500-inverter-generatore-5.html#post63228 https://www.powerequipmentforum.com/forum/9-generator-forum/21122-help-predator-3500-invert-generator-fouling-spark-plugs.html The fix for using the extended run is to either cap or clamp the line mentioned. If using a stock cap, youll have to unclamp/uncap or drill a vent hole in it. View Quote |
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The stock cap works because there's another vent, aka, the charcoal canister. If you clamp that line, there is no vent and it'll eventually fuel starve unless you drill the stock cap OR use the extended run tank with a vent. The problem with trying to use the extended run with the charcoal canister in my experience is that the siphon breaks because of the charcoal canister burping and/or not maintaining a constant siphon action.
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Roger, thanks.
Remove that EPA charcoal thing... |
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The local Aldi's had three of their little inverter/generators for $229.95 for the past month.
They just marked them down to $209. Their is now one less. Will be interesting playing with and see what all it will run. Semper Fi |
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Originally Posted By Idaholandho:
Sam's Club A-iPower SUA2300i Ultra-Quiet Inverter Generator 249.98 View Quote Even better, I just now ordered it (Wednesday night) and they claim it will be here by Friday. Kinda have my doubts about that, but I've got two noisy smokers, so I'm not in a hurry for it, anyway. Thanks again. |
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Originally Posted By Idaholandho:
Sam's Club A-iPower SUA2300i Ultra-Quiet Inverter Generator 249.98 View Quote |
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Woot has the WEN 56200i, 1600 Running Watts/2000 Starting Watts, 4-Stroke Gas Powered Portable Inverter Generator, CARB Compliant for $389.99 + $5 S/H
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The Sam's Club genny looks like a great deal. That's what I paid for my first Champion 2K Inverter from Sam's, years ago. You might want to repost a PSA in GD? Especially because it will be delivered in time for Christmas.
I'd buy one, but I already have 4. LOL |
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Originally Posted By SR712:
The Sam's Club genny looks like a great deal. That's what I paid for my first Champion 2K Inverter from Sam's, years ago. You might want to repost a PSA in GD? Especially because it will be delivered in time for Christmas. I'd buy one, but I already have 4. LOL View Quote Have Great Christmas. |
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Originally Posted By RTX:
Thanks for that heads-up. I had looked at that one a while back when it was $150 higher and was tempted at the time. Couldn't resist this time at that price and with free shipping. Even better, I just now ordered it (Wednesday night) and they claim it will be here by Friday. Kinda have my doubts about that, but I've got two noisy smokers, so I'm not in a hurry for it, anyway. Thanks again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTX:
Originally Posted By Idaholandho:
Sam's Club A-iPower SUA2300i Ultra-Quiet Inverter Generator 249.98 Even better, I just now ordered it (Wednesday night) and they claim it will be here by Friday. Kinda have my doubts about that, but I've got two noisy smokers, so I'm not in a hurry for it, anyway. Thanks again. Great price, free shipping in under 48 hours - can't beat that deal. I think this is the last day, so if any of you guys are interested, don't put it off. |
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Amazon is matching Sams on the Ai-Power 2300w generator. $249.98, and right now they have a coupon to click on that gets you 5% more. Free shipping, but will be after Christmas.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G5XXD1S/ |
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Originally Posted By cmburns33:
Amazon is matching Sams on the Ai-Power 2300w generator. $249.98, and right now they have a coupon to click on that gets you 5% more. Free shipping, but will be after Christmas. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G5XXD1S/ View Quote The 5% coupon, and the $55 in bonus points I had to use, got it down to $194 after tax. Plus I'll get another 5% cash back on the card. Thanks |
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It's also better than Sam's Club because it's Ultra "Quite" ! Sam's is only Ultra Quiet, so there's that.
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Originally Posted By Idaholandho:
Sam's Club A-iPower SUA2300i Ultra-Quiet Inverter Generator 249.98 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
This post was enough to get me to bite. The 5% coupon, and the $55 in bonus points I had to use, got it down to $194 after tax. Plus I'll get another 5% cash back on the card. Thanks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Originally Posted By cmburns33:
Amazon is matching Sams on the Ai-Power 2300w generator. $249.98, and right now they have a coupon to click on that gets you 5% more. Free shipping, but will be after Christmas. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G5XXD1S/ The 5% coupon, and the $55 in bonus points I had to use, got it down to $194 after tax. Plus I'll get another 5% cash back on the card. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By cmburns33:
Amazon is matching Sams on the Ai-Power 2300w generator. $249.98, and right now they have a coupon to click on that gets you 5% more. Free shipping, but will be after Christmas. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G5XXD1S/ View Quote Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Now $372, guess I missed out View Quote |
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Saw that the A-iPower was back on sale. Decided to pull the trigger. I don't think these things can go much lower in price... can they?
Why is it that things that you don't really need, but have been waiting for a deal on always come up when money is flowing out the door on other things like Christmas??? |
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Generator question:
I have a 4300 sq ft two story house - looking at this: https://www.harborfreight.com/8750-max-starting7000-running-watts-13-hp-420cc-generator-epa-iii-with-gfci-outlet-protection-63085.html to run basic electrical (lights, fridge, tv) on first floor with transfer switch. I have room in my main box and can control other areas in the home. Or will the HF 3500w inverter generator do the same thing but quieter? Not sure which way to go. Or do I buy 2 HF 2000w inverter gens and run them in parallel? The 8750/7000 is on for $529 HF 3500w is $769 HF 200w is $449 If you suggest the 8750w I am going to purchase the sams club model: https://www.samsclub.com/sams/sua2300i-2300w-inverter-gen/prod22271213.ip?xid=cart_product for $249 just to have. We have funds left over from work and could use the generators for work expenses "to run our offices" when the need arises. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By DRNLS:
looking at this: https://www.harborfreight.com/8750-max-starting7000-running-watts-13-hp-420cc-generator-epa-iii-with-gfci-outlet-protection-63085.html to run basic electrical (lights, fridge, tv) View Quote Unless you're also running a deep well pump, stick welder or central air, there's no reason to put up with the extra racket, weight and fuel consumption of a big, non-inverter generator. Get a small inverter model instead. |
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Originally Posted By danpass:
I would love to do that with my Champion 3100 (75531i) but the magic that makes it happen, a fuel pump, like what the Honda 2k has, is not present in the Champ. View Quote I put a "T" fitting in the fuel line and a one-way valve between the T and the fuel tank. That lets me plug in an external tank (5gal MFC on a tripod) |
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Thanks, but will I be able to tie that into my house? I also have a drain/sump pump I would need to run with extended rains to drain my pool.
Can this champion: https://www.amazon.com/Champion-4000-Watt-Digital-Inverter-Technology/dp/B01M3R711N be tied into my house? It is same price as larger loud HF 8750 model but quieter. Thanks, NLS Originally Posted By Skibane: None of the loads you're describing require anywhere near 7KW of generator. Unless you're also running a deep well pump, stick welder or central air, there's no reason to put up with the extra racket, weight and fuel consumption of a big, non-inverter generator. Get a small inverter model instead. View Quote |
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I finally had a little time yesterday to spend with the Sam's Club A-iPower SUA2300i to get it oiled up and cranked. Everything about the prep is really simple and straightforward and it started with only four or five pulls.
I only let it run for 20 or 30 minutes, and other than the inability to spin up my old Skilsaw, I'm happy with it so far. I had already suspected that the Skilsaw might be a challenge for it, so I wasn't really surprised. I'll continue to check it out with some other devices as I break it in and I'll report here if there are any unacceptable failures. |
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Originally Posted By DRNLS:
Thanks, but will I be able to tie that into my house? I also have a drain/sump pump I would need to run with extended rains to drain my pool. Can this champion: https://www.amazon.com/Champion-4000-Watt-Digital-Inverter-Technology/dp/B01M3R711N be tied into my house? It is same price as larger loud HF 8750 model but quieter. Thanks, NLS View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DRNLS:
Thanks, but will I be able to tie that into my house? I also have a drain/sump pump I would need to run with extended rains to drain my pool. Can this champion: https://www.amazon.com/Champion-4000-Watt-Digital-Inverter-Technology/dp/B01M3R711N be tied into my house? It is same price as larger loud HF 8750 model but quieter. Thanks, NLS Originally Posted By Skibane: None of the loads you're describing require anywhere near 7KW of generator. Unless you're also running a deep well pump, stick welder or central air, there's no reason to put up with the extra racket, weight and fuel consumption of a big, non-inverter generator. Get a small inverter model instead. Unless you need 240v an inverter should meet your power requirements. I have the digital hybrid and it seems to only throttle back about 1/2 throttle and is just as loud , or nearly so, as a fixed rpm smoke & noise generator FYI. |
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^ Yep, shouldn't be any problem to connect the Champion hybrid model to your transfer switch.
Note that since that model only produces 120 volts, your transfer switch will need to tie both 120V legs in your house together when being powered from the generator - Otherwise, only half of the 120 volt circuits in your house will work. Alternately, you can make a jumper cable between your generator and transfer switch that ties both legs together. Either way, NONE of your 240 volt appliances will work, since no 240 VAC is present from that particular generator. |
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Thanks, the pump is 120 so I really don't need 240 for anything. Interestingly TSC has this Champion for $329:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/champion-3650w-rv-ready-portable-generator-not-for-sale-in-california?cm_vc=-10005 and it has 240 outlet available. I may just buy one of these. |
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Heads Up:
6.25 KW Troy-Bilt generator on clearance for half price ($349.50) at Lowe's Not a particularly appealing model at the old $699 price (loud, heavy, no electric start, etc.) - but you probably won't find another model with this much capacity for $349. Key features: 1. Very respectable 8.5 KW surge starting ability 2. 120/240 VAC output 3. Huge 8.5 gallon gas tank 4. Includes wheel kit and tote handle |
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Nice find, none available in my area.
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Originally Posted By PAspeedmaster:
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Could I ask for a little help?
I'm challenged I know Is the NKG 6535 (CR5HSB) the proper replacement plug for the Predator 2000? |
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I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one of these: https://www.samsclub.com/sams/ap4000-4000w-generator-epa/prod21271463.ip?xid=plp_product_1_21. $150 for a 3000w (running) generator. It's not an inverter, but here's my thinking:
1) In the past 20 years, we've had our power go out long enough to warrant using a generator exactly ONCE. 2) I had a Lifan inverter unit that cost me a pretty penny back when inverters were still expensive. It looks like it's toast. If the life expectancy of a generator isn't that great (assuming I'm not buying a Honda/Yamaha), then I'd be a lot les angry if my $150 unit died than some $600. 3) Due to the infrequent use, I'm thinking the stone-age $150 unit will be just fine. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one of these: https://www.samsclub.com/sams/ap4000-4000w-generator-epa/prod21271463.ip?xid=plp_product_1_21. $150 for a 3000w (running) generator. It's not an inverter, but here's my thinking: 1) In the past 20 years, we've had our power go out long enough to warrant using a generator exactly ONCE. 2) I had a Lifan inverter unit that cost me a pretty penny back when inverters were still expensive. It looks like it's toast. If the life expectancy of a generator isn't that great (assuming I'm not buying a Honda/Yamaha), then I'd be a lot les angry if my $150 unit died than some $600. 3) Due to the infrequent use, I'm thinking the stone-age $150 unit will be just fine. View Quote When you say your Lifan is toast, is it a mechanical or electronics issue? |
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Originally Posted By Engineer:
I would say that it depends on what type of equipment you are planning on running off the generator - if it's going to be multiple electronic devices, I'd still lean towards the inverter generator. Also, after owning a few inverter generators, I just can't stand the noise of non-inverter generators. When you say your Lifan is toast, is it a mechanical or electronics issue? View Quote All I'd be running off of it is two refrigerators during a power outage (exceedingly rare) and power tools if I build something on my hunting lease. |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one of these: https://www.samsclub.com/sams/ap4000-4000w-generator-epa/prod21271463.ip?xid=plp_product_1_21. $150 for a 3000w (running) generator. It's not an inverter, but here's my thinking: 1) In the past 20 years, we've had our power go out long enough to warrant using a generator exactly ONCE. 2) I had a Lifan inverter unit that cost me a pretty penny back when inverters were still expensive. It looks like it's toast. If the life expectancy of a generator isn't that great (assuming I'm not buying a Honda/Yamaha), then I'd be a lot les angry if my $150 unit died than some $600. 3) Due to the infrequent use, I'm thinking the stone-age $150 unit will be just fine. View Quote It'll be a lot easier to troubleshoot and repair than an inverter model - fewer mechanical parts, and MUCH fewer electrical parts. |
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Has anyone has a transfer switch (6 circuit) professionally installed- if so, rough estimate on cost or time?
(while I can do most things mechanical- I don't trust myself enough to play with electricity!) Thanks. |
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Got my Ai Power AP4000 yesterday. It's unbelievable that you can get this to your front door for $160 (tax included). I put it together and it started on the first light pull.
Here's something for my Arfcom brethren to argue about: The choice of MOTOR OIL. The reason I bring this up is that the manual called for SAE 30 when I looked at it online. I spent an hour running around looking for a good 30W HD oil. When I unboxed the generator, the oil distick had a big yellow tag around it that said "10W-30". I scratched my head, called the customer service number, and immediately got hold of a tech. He said unequivocally that they are recommending 10W-30 based on their testing, that the manual is basically wrong, and that they would be updating the manuals. So I did some research on BITOG. I'm 100% for doing what the manufacturer recommends, but I also read that these types of engines can run with a wider variety of oil and that mono-weight oils sometimes do better. What I've gathered from my brief research: 1) Mono-weight 30 oils are shear stable and do very well. 2) 10W-30 oils can shear and the engine may have higher oil consumption 3) Even 40W oils are good in higher temperatures (I live in TX). 4) HD oils (Delo, Rotella) are good for this application. One person, in particular, mentioned that a lot of folks killed their generators during Hurricane Harvey by running them too long with too thin oils. Those that had heavier oils did better. So my three choices are: 1) A decent, synthetic, 10W-30. Make sure to check oil. 2) Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 3) Shell Rotella T5 15W-40 Anyone else grapple with this conundrum? |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Got my Ai Power AP4000 yesterday. It's unbelievable that you can get this to your front door for $160 (tax included). I put it together and it started on the first light pull. Here's something for my Arfcom brethren to argue about: The choice of MOTOR OIL. The reason I bring this up is that the manual called for SAE 30 when I looked at it online. I spent an hour running around looking for a good 30W HD oil. When I unboxed the generator, the oil distick had a big yellow tag around it that said "10W-30". I scratched my head, called the customer service number, and immediately got hold of a tech. He said unequivocally that they are recommending 10W-30 based on their testing, that the manual is basically wrong, and that they would be updating the manuals. So I did some research on BITOG. I'm 100% for doing what the manufacturer recommends, but I also read that these types of engines can run with a wider variety of oil and that mono-weight oils sometimes do better. What I've gathered from my brief research: 1) Mono-weight 30 oils are shear stable and do very well. 2) 10W-30 oils can shear and the engine may have higher oil consumption 3) Even 40W oils are good in higher temperatures (I live in TX). 4) HD oils (Delo, Rotella) are good for this application. One person, in particular, mentioned that a lot of folks killed their generators during Hurricane Harvey by running them too long with too thin oils. Those that had heavier oils did better. So my three choices are: 1) A decent, synthetic, 10W-30. Make sure to check oil. 2) Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 3) Shell Rotella T5 15W-40 Anyone else grapple with this conundrum? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one of these: https://www.samsclub.com/sams/ap4000-4000w-generator-epa/prod21271463.ip?xid=plp_product_1_21. $150 for a 3000w (running) generator. It's not an inverter, but here's my thinking: 1) In the past 20 years, we've had our power go out long enough to warrant using a generator exactly ONCE. 2) I had a Lifan inverter unit that cost me a pretty penny back when inverters were still expensive. It looks like it's toast. If the life expectancy of a generator isn't that great (assuming I'm not buying a Honda/Yamaha), then I'd be a lot les angry if my $150 unit died than some $600. 3) Due to the infrequent use, I'm thinking the stone-age $150 unit will be just fine. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Got my Ai Power AP4000 yesterday. It's unbelievable that you can get this to your front door for $160 (tax included). I put it together and it started on the first light pull. Here's something for my Arfcom brethren to argue about: The choice of MOTOR OIL. The reason I bring this up is that the manual called for SAE 30 when I looked at it online. I spent an hour running around looking for a good 30W HD oil. When I unboxed the generator, the oil distick had a big yellow tag around it that said "10W-30". I scratched my head, called the customer service number, and immediately got hold of a tech. He said unequivocally that they are recommending 10W-30 based on their testing, that the manual is basically wrong, and that they would be updating the manuals. So I did some research on BITOG. I'm 100% for doing what the manufacturer recommends, but I also read that these types of engines can run with a wider variety of oil and that mono-weight oils sometimes do better. What I've gathered from my brief research: 1) Mono-weight 30 oils are shear stable and do very well. 2) 10W-30 oils can shear and the engine may have higher oil consumption 3) Even 40W oils are good in higher temperatures (I live in TX). 4) HD oils (Delo, Rotella) are good for this application. One person, in particular, mentioned that a lot of folks killed their generators during Hurricane Harvey by running them too long with too thin oils. Those that had heavier oils did better. So my three choices are: 1) A decent, synthetic, 10W-30. Make sure to check oil. 2) Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 3) Shell Rotella T5 15W-40 Anyone else grapple with this conundrum? View Quote I have a HF set very similar to the one you have and went with it for almost exactly the same reasons. All I'm worried about is keeping the oil topped off and changing it with a name brand oil when the time comes. Manual calls for 10w-30 above freezing 5w-30 below. I'd bet 40 weight would run just fine when it's 100 F. ETA just checked - the manual actually says straight 30 weight for 60 F and above will work. see pg 17 |
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Originally Posted By Bones45: What's to grapple? If your oil is in spec it's more important to simply ensure that a) the motor has enough oil and b) it's fairly fresh. I'd bet that all the people who wrecked their gensets let it run and run on the same oil it came with, never checking or changing. it. I have a HF set very similar to the one you have and went with it for almost exactly the same reasons. All I'm worried about is keeping the oil topped off and changing it with a name brand oil when the time comes. Manual calls for 10w-30 above freezing 5w-30 below. I'd bet 40 weight would run just fine when it's 100 F. ETA just checked - the manual actually says straight 30 weight for 60 F and above will work. see pg 17 View Quote But yeah: Keeping the oil changed and topped off is more important than anything. I'm just being OCD. |
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Any good deals going on brick and mortar? Buddy in Silicon Valley lost power last night and could be days getting it back
Needs to run his sub-zero fridge, so I'm guessing at least the HF3500W inverter? TIA! |
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