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Update: Lawsuit filed in May of 2024. Filed in NC Superior Court. City of Greensboro gets it moved to Federal Court. North Carolina Captain Terminated for Social Media Post Claims Free Speech Violation |
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Originally Posted By txgp17: Update: Lawsuit filed in May of 2024. Filed in NC Superior Court. City of Greensboro gets it moved to Federal Court. North Carolina Captain Terminated for Social Media Post Claims Free Speech Violation |
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Originally Posted By JaredC1: Seems like a self inflicted wound. If you think it's self-inflicted then you're believing everything you see printed in the news. There so much more to this story. Attached File Attached File |
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I followed the wormhole into the filing and the case and case law looks pretty good. In essence, according to the GFD's disciplinary policy, they place his personal, 1st amendment protected speech, that neither impacted his job performance nor criticized his department, on par with felony criminal convictions as evidenced by the degree of punishment, though, the policy itself categorized it as a class A offense, requiring reprimand, then escalating suspensions. None of those things happened. That's aside from this being protected conduct. There's a litany of case law that backs up his case. In reality, Greensboro doesn't even have a bad written policy. It's their unwritten policy, or rather, their pattern of conduct that is going to be their undoing. They simply can't retaliate for protected speech that happens outside of official duties. Hell, case law even supports criticism of your own department when done in your personal capacity. |
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Originally Posted By aimatdeer: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/418716/20230507_170507_jpg-2809456_jpeg-2820082.JPG Send the oem female on the right to my quarters for an interview. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Fooboy: @txgp17 Any updates? Here's what's listed in the Pacer system.... Attached File |
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Originally Posted By txgp17: #JaredC1, the first image is the one they fired him over. The second image is one that was similarly report to "HR" as but nothing was done over it. The person with "Black Pride" wasn't even asked to take it down. The City's policies are incoherent. If you think it's self-inflicted then you're believing everything you see printed in the news. There so much more to this story. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/341703120_3336777739968263_3871075192247-3229063.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/161276276_486874536096199_79327249879805-3229064.JPG Originally Posted By txgp17: Originally Posted By JaredC1: Seems like a self inflicted wound. If you think it's self-inflicted then you're believing everything you see printed in the news. There so much more to this story. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/341703120_3336777739968263_3871075192247-3229063.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/161276276_486874536096199_79327249879805-3229064.JPG I want a shirt lol that says melanin… I’m super proud of my melanin content. If somone can be proud of having lots of it. I can be proud of having not a lot of it. |
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The case is 1:24-cv-00450-TDS-JEP JONES v. THE CITY OF GREENSBORO et al Honestly, this is purely a political fight. Democrats want Republicans punished for espousing facts that hurt their feelings. For example: my friends attorney is a registered Republican, and here's his voting history according to NC State records: Attached File All 3 attorneys for the City of Greensboro are registered Democrats, and the lead attorney's voting history: Attached File |
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Also, the firm representing the City of Greensboro has an entire section on their website dedicated to DEI. Attached File |
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Update on filings, but no actual movement on the case to update..... Attached File |
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The courts move really slow.... Attached File |
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We aren't allowed to post anything political (civil service). There are always people that try to toe the line. It just aint worth it. When it comes to memes that might be seen as offensive. That ain't worth it either. As even if you aren't terminated you might end up with some kind of 'discipline'. That ain't discipline. IE getting moved straight nights to a shitty shift. I have social media but I never make posts around the job. And don't make any political. Religious. Or hot button posts. No meme posting or forwarding. I enjoy posting on forums due to the anonymous nature. I can say what I think without my name being attached thus my 'agency' not being represented by me or my opinions. When it comes to facebook/instagram. I keep that shit low key. I also know a few people that have gotten in trouble over snapchat stories. Which means someone in their friend-group took a second phone and photoed/videos what they put and ratted them out. Something that was technically private and should have only been distributed amongst their 'friends'. Obviously they can't discipline that too hard but people have gotten represented in milder ways for it. IE getting moved to a different shift or drafted for a shit detail or something like that. |
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Originally Posted By txgp17: So a friend of mine, a former coworker, was a Fire Captain with the City of Greensboro and had been there 16 years. He posted the meme below and the City terminated his employment last week. Link https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/341703120_3336777739968263_3871075192247-2819816.JPG I worked at the same Dept for 20 years and was also a Fire Captain, and they initiated a dismissal process on me in 2020 for posting a meme critical of BLM. This City has gone completely "woke" and essentially all conservative opinions are classified as discriminatory. But here's a post from the City's official Twitter account https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/346471219_6181128548640257_4934870569099-2819958.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61099/346294696_239486272013631_16011177557247-2819959.JPG “4 straight years”? Edit - sorry, just noticed not GD. Good luck with the suits. |
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Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: “4 straight years”? Edit - sorry, just noticed not GD. Good luck with the suits. It took me a while, but.... Attached File |
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Retired merchant mariner here. YEARS ago the office told us they didn't care what we did/said/whatever on Facebook if you didn't identify your page with the company. Fair enough! |
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Long time needed update. They've conducted depositions and gone through discovery. One of those deposed was the former City Manager, who upheld the firing of my friend, but then later the City Council sent that former City Manager packing because he was banging one of his assistants. So the now former City Manager has no loyalty to the City and probably has a bone to pick himself. Everything is "confidential" up to this point. Anyway, looks like they're going to trial. I made a public records request for all the invoices from the law firm representing the City of Greensboro, but it's been 9 weeks and they haven't fulfilled it. |
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Originally Posted By ICEAGE: We aren't allowed to post anything political (civil service). There are always people that try to toe the line. It just aint worth it. When it comes to memes that might be seen as offensive. That ain't worth it either. As even if you aren't terminated you might end up with some kind of 'discipline'. That ain't discipline. IE getting moved straight nights to a shitty shift. I have social media but I never make posts around the job. And don't make any political. Religious. Or hot button posts. No meme posting or forwarding. I enjoy posting on forums due to the anonymous nature. I can say what I think without my name being attached thus my 'agency' not being represented by me or my opinions. When it comes to facebook/instagram. I keep that shit low key. I also know a few people that have gotten in trouble over snapchat stories. Which means someone in their friend-group took a second phone and photoed/videos what they put and ratted them out. Something that was technically private and should have only been distributed amongst their 'friends'. Obviously they can't discipline that too hard but people have gotten represented in milder ways for it. IE getting moved to a different shift or drafted for a shit detail or something like that. Sadly it is not applied across the board. The devil is alive and well in this world. |
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Originally Posted By Aggie_Gunner: That's rough... Re-affirms my desire to never be on facebook. I didn't open up on FB until I retired. Now I don't GAF. |
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Originally Posted By MemeWarfare: Live your life as Don Diego de la Vega. Let Zorro post the spicy memes and troll the man. Yeah but ya gotta grow a pencil thin moustache first. |
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| Update, They're still filing motions and objections and stuff, trial isn't set yet. So far, the City of Greensboro has spent $213,699.70 on legal expenses to a an outside law firm. And they haven't gone to trial yet. |
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