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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:36:24 AM EDT
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If nothing nationally was passed after Sandy Hook with Dem leadership, why are you worried about Trump' Administration?
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:38:44 AM EDT
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Just need something else to roll on the news cycles, perhaps a trump relative getting a wad of cash from Russia story. At this point anything that the libs can scream about against trump would do.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:40:53 AM EDT
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If nothing nationally was passed after Sandy Hook with Dem leadership, why are you worried about Trump' Administration? I think we are in danger if we keep looking at Sandy Hook as a "high water mark" of sorts for mass shootings. I think the left is successfully painting the narrative that Trump/republicans are to blame for mass events like this and that Mr. and Mrs. low information voter/milquetoast gun owner are beginning to fall for it. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:42:51 AM EDT
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Nothing is going to happen.
Trump was actually right. Obama and the dems had 8 Fucking years. Also you can thank Cruz my booger eating senator for beating it back during that time . |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:42:58 AM EDT
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Any R that pushes any kind of gun control is finished.
Any D in a red state that pushes any kind of gun control is finished. They're going to make some kind of token change to NCIC, that's all. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:43:26 AM EDT
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If nothing nationally was passed after Sandy Hook with Dem leadership, why are you worried about Trump' Administration? so yeah, there is real danger here. go to 6:00...  FOPA Hughes Amendment VOTE APRIL 10 1986 |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:44:19 AM EDT
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Can you please link these federal gun control laws you are talking about.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:44:26 AM EDT
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This one is different. They're using their hatred for Trump as an oxidizer to put the pressure on vulnerable politicians. I think we are in danger if we keep looking at Sandy Hook as a "high water mark" of sorts for mass shootings. I think the left is successfully painting the narrative that Trump/republicans are to blame for mass events like this and that Mr. and Mrs. low information voter/milquetoast gun owner are beginning to fall for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If nothing nationally was passed after Sandy Hook with Dem leadership, why are you worried about Trump' Administration? I think we are in danger if we keep looking at Sandy Hook as a "high water mark" of sorts for mass shootings. I think the left is successfully painting the narrative that Trump/republicans are to blame for mass events like this and that Mr. and Mrs. low information voter/milquetoast gun owner are beginning to fall for it. Please consider donating to the NRA ILA |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:45:03 AM EDT
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with the great prices over the past year on ar stuff people should have plenty of everything. we have been saying for a long time stock up and stock up deep on ammo, mags, BCG and lowers. At the prices today there is no reason not to have at least one build and 1000 rounds sitting around. I do however agree we should stay on top of things by mailing our congress. However that has shown to be frivolous especially after the fail HPA for the last few years.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:46:38 AM EDT
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This one is different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If nothing nationally was passed after Sandy Hook with Dem leadership, why are you worried about Trump' Administration? |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:48:03 AM EDT
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IMHO, a vast majority of the population understands it's the Government that has designated "Gun Free Zone" at our schools and left the children vulnerable to evil attacks such as this past week. Our liberal media gives more attention to the unhinged left with their illogical reasoning regarding Gun Control, because they want an unarmed population.
I would also argue that the Government continues to keep Schools unprotected to further promote Gun Control by giving Evil people an easy target. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:50:21 AM EDT
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Obama had 8 years to pass gun control and did not because none is needed.
There are already so many gun laws no one knows them all. It is already against the law to murder someone. You can not stop a crime before it happens because no one reliably predicts the future - see weather forecasts - and that is what the liberals want to do. Go ahead and take names and keep a current list posted of all those spineless weasels who sell our rights out from under us and we can deal with them at the next several elections. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:50:29 AM EDT
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That's what everyone said after Vegas. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:50:47 AM EDT
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Can you please link these federal gun control laws you are talking about. A Gabby Giffords-pushed mental health bill has had growing success on the state level and it will very likely be pushed nationally- whereby family members can raise their concerns about you before a court without your knowledge and have your weapons confiscated and the burden is on YOU to prove you're worthy to own them. There are multi-pronged tools in their arsenal, not to mention the weakening of the Congress which is definitely in their plans for 2018. They are playing the long game here as they always have. I'll remind you, Trump was supposed to get us our rights BACK. Now here we are again playing lazy defense when we should be playing an aggressive offense. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:53:35 AM EDT
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I see them taking out token legislation like “improved” background. Dems don’t want any changes right now. They are using this as a campaign issue.
If they get the house and Senate then we are fucked. Supreme Court is not in our favor yet to stop whatever shit they can force. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:54:15 AM EDT
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The only reason, and it's a valid concern, the Rs would pass some gun control would be to fuck over Trump
The Rinos despise him, and doing something that could make him lose the election is right in their wheelhouse. But I think trump vetoes it |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:55:40 AM EDT
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I'm not going to link them but an AWB is possible, Trump has indicated he's ok with Cornyn's FixNICS bill which was previously rolled into the now stalled Reciprocity bill. State-level bans on Bump Stocks have continued to fester under the radar. A Gabby Giffords-pushed mental health bill has had growing success on the state level and it will very likely be pushed nationally- whereby family members can raise their concerns about you before a court without your knowledge and have your weapons confiscated and the burden is on YOU to prove you're worthy to own them. There are multi-pronged tools in their arsenal, not to mention the weakening of the Congress which is definitely in their plans for 2018. They are playing the long game here as they always have. It is simple - Do not ever vote for a democrat or liberal...EVER! |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:57:49 AM EDT
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We need to keep the pressure on the law makers. This one has gained traction that Sandy Hook didn’t. We can’t sleep on this one.
My wife who was supportive of our rights is now full of emotions and feelings as to how we need change. I never thought I’d be fighting her on gun rights. The conversations in my house have gotten heated. My kids 13 and 11 are showing reason. My son thinks we need to arm teachers. If not with guns at least with tasers. My daughter has identified a problem not being discussed. She thinks schools are to big. The large size of many of our schools makes many kids feel disconnected from others. Smaller schools and classes could help nurture compassion and unity in local communities. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:58:11 AM EDT
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The only reason, and it's a valid concern, the Rs would pass some gun control would be to fuck over Trump The Rinos despise him, and doing something that could make him lose the election is right in their wheelhouse. But I think trump vetoes it |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:58:25 AM EDT
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You do know they are only winning at state level and in states that are pretty much liberal havens. It is simple - Do not ever vote for a democrat or liberal...EVER! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to link them but an AWB is possible, Trump has indicated he's ok with Cornyn's FixNICS bill which was previously rolled into the now stalled Reciprocity bill. State-level bans on Bump Stocks have continued to fester under the radar. A Gabby Giffords-pushed mental health bill has had growing success on the state level and it will very likely be pushed nationally- whereby family members can raise their concerns about you before a court without your knowledge and have your weapons confiscated and the burden is on YOU to prove you're worthy to own them. There are multi-pronged tools in their arsenal, not to mention the weakening of the Congress which is definitely in their plans for 2018. They are playing the long game here as they always have. It is simple - Do not ever vote for a democrat or liberal...EVER! |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:00:42 AM EDT
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This one is different. They're using their hatred for Trump as an oxidizer to put the pressure on vulnerable politicians. I think we are in danger if we keep looking at Sandy Hook as a "high water mark" of sorts for mass shootings. I think the left is successfully painting the narrative that Trump/republicans are to blame for mass events like this and that Mr. and Mrs. low information voter/milquetoast gun owner are beginning to fall for it. 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:02:29 AM EDT
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Personally, I think the threat for new controls is at the State level. They've changed from a national push to trying to pick off states where it us far easier to swing some politicos around to"Do Something". Because, you know, it's for the chirren.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:05:48 AM EDT
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The only reason, and it's a valid concern, the Rs would pass some gun control would be to fuck over Trump The Rinos despise him, and doing something that could make him lose the election is right in their wheelhouse. But I think trump vetoes it |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:05:51 AM EDT
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Charlie Rangel forced Hughes amendment through without proper procedure manipulating the vote. Watching this makes me sick.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:06:30 AM EDT
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I'm not going to link them but an AWB is possible, Trump has indicated he's ok with Cornyn's FixNICS bill which was previously rolled into the now stalled Reciprocity bill. State-level bans on Bump Stocks have continued to fester under the radar. A Gabby Giffords-pushed mental health bill has had growing success on the state level and it will very likely be pushed nationally- whereby family members can raise their concerns about you before a court without your knowledge and have your weapons confiscated and the burden is on YOU to prove you're worthy to own them. There are multi-pronged tools in their arsenal, not to mention the weakening of the Congress which is definitely in their plans for 2018. They are playing the long game here as they always have. I'll remind you, Trump was supposed to get us our rights BACK. Now here we are again playing lazy defense when we should be playing an aggressive offense. Yep, you're paranoid |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:09:44 AM EDT
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The left has capitalized on the #WeResist grassroots they had already setup in advance of Trump's inauguration and this is a full-force advance on our position. When you look around and see your comrades falling (And those who you thought were your comrades, then its just a matter of time. I think we need to get off our asses and get back to the fervor we had after Sandy Hook or we will be here with a dazed look on our faces wondering what the fuck just happened. A few states will go even more herp derp..... 
Federally......vote for suppressors is probably dead. (unless the mid terms go stupidly well for us) Hope not though. Trump isn't signing anything and last thing I saw Ryan made it pretty clear the House isn't doing "anything about guns". So I'm sure a few senate bills will come, maybe even a "bipartisan common sense" bill. It will die in the house though. Nothing hits the Whitehouse desk, IMO. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:13:27 AM EDT
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One of the outstanding well spoken articulate young man speaking for an assault weapon ban help us be the son of a retired FBI agent. They have a lot going for them right now you're firing up the youth. In church I heard lot of pro-gun people saying we really don't need ar15s
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:14:19 AM EDT
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I wonder how many other “laws” on the books were fraudulently passed by Dems?
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:14:57 AM EDT
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If nothing nationally was passed after Sandy Hook with Dem leadership, why are you worried about Trump' Administration? |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:15:45 AM EDT
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Join date, screen name, post count, lack of tangible proof of fears, lack of understanding government function, faux turd world nation flag...... Yep, you're paranoid Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to link them but an AWB is possible, Trump has indicated he's ok with Cornyn's FixNICS bill which was previously rolled into the now stalled Reciprocity bill. State-level bans on Bump Stocks have continued to fester under the radar. A Gabby Giffords-pushed mental health bill has had growing success on the state level and it will very likely be pushed nationally- whereby family members can raise their concerns about you before a court without your knowledge and have your weapons confiscated and the burden is on YOU to prove you're worthy to own them. There are multi-pronged tools in their arsenal, not to mention the weakening of the Congress which is definitely in their plans for 2018. They are playing the long game here as they always have. I'll remind you, Trump was supposed to get us our rights BACK. Now here we are again playing lazy defense when we should be playing an aggressive offense. Yep, you're paranoid We had a very good opportunity to be on offense and have been only still playing defense. Conversely, liberals are always on the attack in all kinds of anti-gun legislation. They have been doing their biddings State by State. Where's that "pro-2nd team" that Trump put together? And considering the NRA's stance I do not count on them either. What happens with anyone that only plays defense? |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:24:55 AM EDT
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That's what everyone said after Vegas. That was weird. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:27:23 AM EDT
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A few days after it was like Vegas never even happened. That was weird. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's what everyone said after Vegas. That was weird. Too many murky details about the shooter's background that might not have gone the way they thought. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:30:44 AM EDT
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Just need something else to roll on the news cycles, perhaps a trump relative getting a wad of cash from Russia story. At this point anything that the libs can scream about against trump would do. CNN & such just got shown to be pawns of Russian meddling by supporting anti-Trump rallies that were manipulated to be more disruptive (apparently some pro-Trump rallies were as well). They do have a bunch of high schoolers they can march in front of the TV and feed talking points to, and they don't show balance or point out that the FBI & Broward Co Sheriff are responsible for the failures that allowed the murders to happen. This one is a bit different. Not country music fans that CNN thinks deserve to die being killed, but teens CNN can manipulate. Note the kid in an early story (last name Valdes or something like it) who said he wanted a CC permit as soon as he was old enough because he saw everyone was defenseless - is not getting interviewed. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:31:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: honest answer? because after sandy hook, the GOP was still in full resist mode, unwilling to compromise anything to obama. since trump won, GOP RINOs have been openly caving to the left on a variety of issues. and we're already seeing them "willing to open a dialogue" on the issue. so yeah, there is real danger here. go to 6:00...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Mx2UcSEvQ |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:42:11 AM EDT
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We need to keep the pressure on the law makers. This one has gained traction that Sandy Hook didn’t. We can’t sleep on this one. My wife who was supportive of our rights is now full of emotions and feelings as to how we need change. I never thought I’d be fighting her on gun rights. The conversations in my house have gotten heated. My kids 13 and 11 are showing reason. My son thinks we need to arm teachers. If not with guns at least with tasers. My daughter has identified a problem not being discussed. She thinks schools are to big. The large size of many of our schools makes many kids feel disconnected from others. Smaller schools and classes could help nurture compassion and unity in local communities. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:44:43 AM EDT
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Relax, Chicken Little..
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:49:56 AM EDT
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Any R that pushes any kind of gun control is finished. Any D in a red state that pushes any kind of gun control is finished. They're going to make some kind of token change to NCIC, that's all. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:03:17 AM EDT
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Just need something else to roll on the news cycles, perhaps a trump relative getting a wad of cash from Russia story. At this point anything that the libs can scream about against trump would do. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:04:45 AM EDT
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Your concern is noted. It will be added to the list of daily concern threads. Thanks.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:04:48 AM EDT
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This one is different. They're using their hatred for Trump as an oxidizer to put the pressure on vulnerable politicians. I think we are in danger if we keep looking at Sandy Hook as a "high water mark" of sorts for mass shootings. I think the left is successfully painting the narrative that Trump/republicans are to blame for mass events like this and that Mr. and Mrs. low information voter/milquetoast gun owner are beginning to fall for it. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:07:05 AM EDT
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Just need something else to roll on the news cycles, perhaps a trump relative getting a wad of cash from Russia story. At this point anything that the libs can scream about against trump would do. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:08:25 AM EDT
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For about a month, after every shooting, ARFcom turns into prissy effeminate stage actor. Drama, drama, drama, drama, drama, drama, drama, drama.
News flash, yes, eventually guns will be banned, not because of a shooting, but because immigration and low birth rates finally give Democrats a super majority. Think about that every time some ARFcommer brags about getting a vasectomy. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:11:57 AM EDT
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New York and California might make it illegal to look at photos of guns but nationally nothing is happening.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:12:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. It’s coming. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:13:57 AM EDT
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A few days after it was like Vegas never even happened. That was weird. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:16:22 AM EDT
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The church in Texas right after that. Completely forgotten by the public. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A few days after it was like Vegas never even happened. That was weird. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:16:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:16:57 AM EDT
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There's more energy on the left this time than there has been in a while. Even here on ARF the concern trolls have been heavy, and some where deep sleepers. When those get used someone is really trying to move a needle. It doesn't help that a good chunk of the GOP is getting softer and have been willing to betray conservatives and American ideals just to give Trump a hard time.
A ban is coming eventually. It has already come for people in many states. Nationally, probably not with this president, but there will be an AWB in the future given how news, schools, music, etc. are all largely controlled by the new socialists. People need to be active in countering anti-rights rhetoric and movements wherever they appear, engage with their lawmakers to push that day out as far as possible. If you're panic buying now though you're either a newbie or haven't been paying attention and taking advantage of salad days. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:17:03 AM EDT
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Go capitulate someplace else.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:17:14 AM EDT
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My daughter has identified a problem not being discussed. She thinks schools are to big. The large size of many of our schools makes many kids feel disconnected from others. Smaller schools and classes could help nurture compassion and unity in local communities. |
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