Grocery Prices Are Out Of Control (Page 9 of 12)
| Maybe this is a California prices thing? Dad always said that about the Price is Right. This week I bought X-Large brown eggs for $1.49/dz, milk for $4.99/gal, boneless chicken breast for $2.99/lb and 80/20 Chuck for $4.49/lb. We buy keto bread, so I won’t include that high priced stuff for comparison. I don’t know, those seem like early 2000s prices to me. I’m not sure how cheap is cheap enough for some of you. |
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Originally Posted By Lexington: Her saber-rattling foreign policy would be "Don't". The mullahs would laugh in her face and launch some nukes for fun. But no; word salad would not have been better |
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01: For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige. One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!". Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs. I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant. lol. My family hasn’t been to a McDonald in at least 8 years. The only fast food we eat is the local maid rite and those are loose hamburger sandwiches lol. Thats still rare for us. |
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Originally Posted By HRoark87: I picked a ton of field peas yesterday. By the time I was done and had them processed I had hours of labor into something I could have probably bought for ten-twenty bucks at Walmart  That doesn't even include the actual planting and upkeep. My eggs are free though. We sell enough to cover feed. It's just part of our lifestyle, but I wouldn't call it a huge savings. Gardens are always losers compared to store bought if you actually add in all the costs. Add in your labor and even bougie farmer’s markets are a bargain compared to home grown. Some people enjoy the aspect of having a hand in the production of some of their food. More of a hobby in 2026. I very quickly lost interest in the concept. Mass scale food production FTW.
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Originally Posted By konger: Maybe this is a California prices thing? Dad always said that about the Price is Right. This week I bought X-Large brown eggs for $1.49/dz, milk for $4.99/gal, boneless chicken breast for $2.99/lb and 80/20 Chuck for $4.49/lb. We buy keto bread, so I won’t include that high priced stuff for comparison. I don’t know, those seem like early 2000s prices to me. I’m not sure how cheap is cheap enough for some of you. $5/gallon for milk is normal? 
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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: Food prices are the hot topic on the book of faces right now. Keep in mind I have very few democrats on my friends list so it's mostly republicans complaining. Of course dems aren't complaining they get their food free and don't have to bargain shop or change their lifestyle While both parties are responsible for where we are right now it's the republicans in control so they will be blamed. |
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Originally Posted By InflectionPoint: $5/gallon for milk is normal? Originally Posted By InflectionPoint: Originally Posted By konger: Maybe this is a California prices thing? Dad always said that about the Price is Right. This week I bought X-Large brown eggs for $1.49/dz, milk for $4.99/gal, boneless chicken breast for $2.99/lb and 80/20 Chuck for $4.49/lb. We buy keto bread, so I won’t include that high priced stuff for comparison. I don’t know, those seem like early 2000s prices to me. I’m not sure how cheap is cheap enough for some of you. $5/gallon for milk is normal? Sure, for organic. |
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Originally Posted By konger: Maybe this is a California prices thing? Dad always said that about the Price is Right. This week I bought X-Large brown eggs for $1.49/dz, milk for $4.99/gal, boneless chicken breast for $2.99/lb and 80/20 Chuck for $4.49/lb. We buy keto bread, so I won’t include that high priced stuff for comparison. I don’t know, those seem like early 2000s prices to me. I’m not sure how cheap is cheap enough for some of you. I was in one store the other day looking to grab a good baguette. They have low grade breads with shit grade flour and a higher grade of bread made with a better grade of flour that has a much nicer crumb and flavor. $3.99 for the shit grade looks like a baguette loaf but tastes like styrofoam and $5.99 for a shorter baguette (15”). No Fn way am I paying six bucks for a god damned baguette, that would make the French revolt again. The enshitification continues. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: People forget that the 9% inflation, real inflation, that happened after Biden and the dems passed their trillion dollar+ spending bill was part of a FIVE TRILLION DOLLAR budget that Biden and the dems wanted to spend. You think prices are crazy now, if we got 9% from a trillion dollar bill, what do you think things would cost if they spent $4 trillion more? Originally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By himarker: At this point we might actually be better off with Word Salad. If trump continues down this path he will guarantee she would have been a better choice. People forget that the 9% inflation, real inflation, that happened after Biden and the dems passed their trillion dollar+ spending bill was part of a FIVE TRILLION DOLLAR budget that Biden and the dems wanted to spend. You think prices are crazy now, if we got 9% from a trillion dollar bill, what do you think things would cost if they spent $4 trillion more? That was part of it, but it was also in a large part due to the pandemic supply chain bottlenecks and the energy problems due to the Ukraine war. |
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Originally Posted By himarker: At this point we might actually be better off with Word Salad. If trump continues down this path he will guarantee she would have been a better choice. Originally Posted By himarker: Originally Posted By Bat15: Originally Posted By himarker: Covid gave us the lowest prices in decades. Yes, I expect longterm pain from many of you deciding to elect a man who is both ignorant and narcissistic which is a dangerous combination. We would be so much better off with Word Salad as president. The pain from a few nukes would only last a microsecond for people at the center of the blast. Those further away would have to suffer a longer.  At this point we might actually be better off with Word Salad. If trump continues down this path he will guarantee she would have been a better choice. Sorry your girl lost. |
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Originally Posted By konger: Maybe this is a California prices thing? Dad always said that about the Price is Right. This week I bought X-Large brown eggs for $1.49/dz, milk for $4.99/gal, boneless chicken breast for $2.99/lb and 80/20 Chuck for $4.49/lb. We buy keto bread, so I won’t include that high priced stuff for comparison. I don’t know, those seem like early 2000s prices to me. I’m not sure how cheap is cheap enough for some of you. This is satire right? Less than 7 years ago milk was < $2/gal. Boneless skinless were regularly $0.99/# and 80/20 was around $3. |
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Originally Posted By Glock031: Gas was cheaper before covid. I swear these liberals are retarded. Originally Posted By Glock031: Originally Posted By DDiggler: Yeah, the lowest gas prices in decades was ALL because of Trump, not because government basically grounded everyone to the house for half his term, shutting down businesses and putting out restrictions. Well... wait... that came from Fauci, who was working under Trump for his administration... so I guess you could say that Trump was "responsible" for them in a round-about way. Gas was cheaper before covid. I swear these liberals are retarded. Liberals interpret words and history to suite their needs. Look at gender identity BS. |
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Originally Posted By konger: Sure, for organic. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: I voted Rand Paul and Thomas Massie. I don’t like governments spending money. But to people’s defense against n_t accusations, when you run on doge and no new wars, then do the opposite of doge to try and flair the economy up to outpace debt and you start another 20 year war with energy as the main casualty, you’re going to get presidential criticism. And now that his AI cash cows are bucking and saying they can’t keep up the pace needed to keep the markets ablaze I think the n_t trend is going to come hard from fully vested. Point is when you vote someone in and the complete opposite happens it’s not fully on the voters. What would 2023 trumps campaign against Trump now look like? You voted democratic. Voting for people who can’t win is the same as voting for the other party. I hope all of you who pushed for Paxton are sending him money and ringing doorbells. I have sent him money even though he was not my first choice. I rather have a 90% republican then a god has 6 genders child transgender advocate sicko. |
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: The same nukes Israel has been telling us they're 2 weeks away from for 30+ years? Iran has told us they had enough 60% enriched material to make11 nukes. It only takes two or three weeks to reach 90%. Commercial reactors use uranium enriched to about 3%. Iran has been calling for the destruction of the Little Satan and Great Satan for the last 47 years. Israel is the Little Satan. We are the Great Satan. |
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Originally Posted By Bat15: You voted democratic. Voting for people who can't win is the same as voting for the other party. I hope all of you who pushed for Paxton are sending him money and ringing doorbells. I have sent him money even though he was not my first choice. I rather have a 90% republican then a god has 6 genders child transgender advocate sicko. Lol |
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: This is satire right? Less than 7 years ago milk was < $2/gal. Boneless skinless were regularly $0.99/# and 80/20 was around $3. Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: Originally Posted By konger: Maybe this is a California prices thing? Dad always said that about the Price is Right. This week I bought X-Large brown eggs for $1.49/dz, milk for $4.99/gal, boneless chicken breast for $2.99/lb and 80/20 Chuck for $4.49/lb. We buy keto bread, so I won’t include that high priced stuff for comparison. I don’t know, those seem like early 2000s prices to me. I’m not sure how cheap is cheap enough for some of you. This is satire right? Less than 7 years ago milk was < $2/gal. Boneless skinless were regularly $0.99/# and 80/20 was around $3. Those are 1990s prices you’re listing. Maybe a loss leader sales price. You didn’t find those prices all the time for sure. |
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: Any breaking news at the local Great Clips? Originally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By SWIRE: I'm just here to see all the excuses and purse swinging directed at those who are complaining. Any breaking news at the local Great Clips? Consumer sentiment is set to drop below 50 when it was 71.7 in Jan of 2025 and 56.4 in Jan 2026. - Sentiment is a household-economy index (1966 = 100). 80 100 is historically "fine." Mid-50s is weak. High-40s is near the floor of the series. But according to the geniuses in the big Iran thread, no one cares about  Stephen Miller coming out and saying "the Democrats are extremists" is not going to change anything. That is old news and 2024 talking points. It doesn't affect the day to day life of the working class. It's like the Republicans have forgotten how to campaign and forgotten the phrase "It is the economy stupid". If that is not sound then nothing else matters. Consumer sentiment shows the public is every unhappy with it...like I said they would be if Trump didn't get Iran wrapped up by April. Back in March when he gave the "Iran has 48 hours to open the Strait" order at 48:00:01 he should have started bombing the shit out of them again in order to finish it. Instead he blinked and didn't nothing. Iran has ignored all his threats since then. |
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Originally Posted By ekg98: Remember some food items are cheaper now than when they were before. You are going to have to adjust your lifestyle. Nathan's hot dogs, on sale, are $6.72 a pound! What is cheaper than "before" and how you define "before"? Sure eggs are cheaper now than when Biden ordered a massive chicken kill off. That's a specific case not the trend. Why are you trying to claim everything is fine, normal, or cheaper...but then tell everyone they need to change what they eat in the very next sentence? Obviously more than just beef has gone up. |
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Originally Posted By DDiggler: Liberals? Are these liberals in the room with us now? I'm an actual conservative... a REAL one based on ideals, not marching orders from the NYC Democrat populist. Trump is the only Dem I've ever voted for. Only twice though; I wasn't in-country for 2024. Actually, worse than liberals. At least liberals admit to their ideology. Others accomplish the same by default. |
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Originally Posted By Bat15: You voted democratic. Voting for people who can't win is the same as voting for the other party. I hope all of you who pushed for Paxton are sending him money and ringing doorbells. I have sent him money even though he was not my first choice. I rather have a 90% republican then a god has 6 genders child transgender advocate sicko. Originally Posted By Bat15: Originally Posted By boolzi: I voted Rand Paul and Thomas Massie. I don't like governments spending money. But to people's defense against n_t accusations, when you run on doge and no new wars, then do the opposite of doge to try and flair the economy up to outpace debt and you start another 20 year war with energy as the main casualty, you're going to get presidential criticism. And now that his AI cash cows are bucking and saying they can't keep up the pace needed to keep the markets ablaze I think the n_t trend is going to come hard from fully vested. Point is when you vote someone in and the complete opposite happens it's not fully on the voters. What would 2023 trumps campaign against Trump now look like? You voted democratic. Voting for people who can't win is the same as voting for the other party. I hope all of you who pushed for Paxton are sending him money and ringing doorbells. I have sent him money even though he was not my first choice. I rather have a 90% republican then a god has 6 genders child transgender advocate sicko. |
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Originally Posted By Bat15: Iran has told us they had enough 60% enriched material to make11 nukes. It only takes two or three weeks to reach 90%. Commercial reactors use uranium enriched to about 3%. Iran has been calling for the destruction of the Little Satan and Great Satan for the last 47 years. Israel is the Little Satan. We are the Great Satan. Originally Posted By Bat15: Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: The same nukes Israel has been telling us they're 2 weeks away from for 30+ years? Iran has told us they had enough 60% enriched material to make11 nukes. It only takes two or three weeks to reach 90%. Commercial reactors use uranium enriched to about 3%. Iran has been calling for the destruction of the Little Satan and Great Satan for the last 47 years. Israel is the Little Satan. We are the Great Satan. |
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: I have filter systems down to RODI water I just think bottled water is more convenient most of the time. We have a cabinet full of insulated bottles, Nalgene bottles, and it's annoying as fuck when we need to be somewhere and someone can't find the specific lid and straw combination to their specific cup of the day. Then you get complaints of leaking lids and straws. Originally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By HiramRanger: Originally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By tucansam: Originally Posted By atavistic: Groceries are so high in America We spend billions on drugs (Wegovy, insulin) to cure us after eating all the food we can't afford. We pay people to prepare the food we can't afford, then we pay other people to deliver that we can't afford. Then we wash it down with pricey bottled water instead of the nearly free water out of the tap. attaboy. I agree with the first two points but fuck drinking city water. Besides the water report this time of year we're about to get the lake inversion and our water will smell like total ass for weeks. Gee I can drink tap water that smells like rotten buttholes or I can buy a case of clean spring water for $4 Or you can buy, or build a ghetto, Berkey and filter your tap water. It's what we do. I have filter systems down to RODI water I just think bottled water is more convenient most of the time. We have a cabinet full of insulated bottles, Nalgene bottles, and it's annoying as fuck when we need to be somewhere and someone can't find the specific lid and straw combination to their specific cup of the day. Then you get complaints of leaking lids and straws. First world problems. |
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"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
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Originally Posted By DDiggler: I remember the good old days when this site would openly mock the dems for saying, "You will own nothing and like it." Originally Posted By DDiggler: Originally Posted By ekg98: Lots of this is not even political. Remember some food items are cheaper now than when they were before. You are going to have to adjust your lifestyle. Thats a lot of money to be spending each month in groceries unless its like a family of four or something. Two people here get by with maybe 250 a month if that. Beef is whats expensive now. Chicken is cheap. Eat more chicken. We had a issue with a lot of birds getting sick but the prices are coming back down. Mcdonalds has a deal the other day on mcchickens. I like my beef but a mcdouble cheeseburger here is like 2.41 or something. If you get a mcchicken its only like 1.70 ish. We are used to this american lifestyle. We are all going to have to make lifestyle adjustments. I remember the good old days when this site would openly mock the dems for saying, "You will own nothing and like it." I remember when Americans improvised, adapted and overcame adversity and didn't whine like bitchy little entitled cunts. Hard times breed strong men. Strong men bring about good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men bring about hard times. Rinse and repeat. Guess where we are on the cycle. |
The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
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Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: The same nukes Israel has been telling us they're 2 weeks away from for 30+ years? Originally Posted By ChaosSquared: Originally Posted By Lexington: Originally Posted By himarker: At this point we might actually be better off with Word Salad. If trump continues down this path he will guarantee she would have been a better choice. Her saber-rattling foreign policy would be “Don’t”. The mullahs would laugh in her face and launch some nukes for fun. The same nukes Israel has been telling us they're 2 weeks away from for 30+ years? The nukes that have been delayed because of sabotage and kinetic action which can only delay so long. |
The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger: I remember when Americans improvised, adapted and overcame adversity and didn't whine like bitchy little entitled cunts. Hard times breed strong men. Strong men bring about good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men bring about hard times. Rinse and repeat. Guess where we are on the cycle. Originally Posted By HiramRanger: Originally Posted By DDiggler: Originally Posted By ekg98: Lots of this is not even political. Remember some food items are cheaper now than when they were before. You are going to have to adjust your lifestyle. Thats a lot of money to be spending each month in groceries unless its like a family of four or something. Two people here get by with maybe 250 a month if that. Beef is whats expensive now. Chicken is cheap. Eat more chicken. We had a issue with a lot of birds getting sick but the prices are coming back down. Mcdonalds has a deal the other day on mcchickens. I like my beef but a mcdouble cheeseburger here is like 2.41 or something. If you get a mcchicken its only like 1.70 ish. We are used to this american lifestyle. We are all going to have to make lifestyle adjustments. I remember the good old days when this site would openly mock the dems for saying, "You will own nothing and like it." I remember when Americans improvised, adapted and overcame adversity and didn't whine like bitchy little entitled cunts. Hard times breed strong men. Strong men bring about good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men bring about hard times. Rinse and repeat. Guess where we are on the cycle. I’m not struggling I eat ribeyes on the regular. It doesn’t mean I think what’s going on in this country is right. We can’t keep running these deficits and maintain the current rate of inflation for the well being of our country. I voted for Trump and will not vote Democrat ever I also don’t suck someone’s d because they have an R by their name. From what I’m seeing and hearing the majority of the populace is sick of it and paying the price. Long term like it or not this will lead to Democrat control and you know what comes with that.    |
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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: I’m not struggling I eat ribeyes on the regular. It doesn’t mean I think what’s going on in this country is right. We can’t keep running these deficits and maintain the current rate of inflation for the well being of our country. I voted for Trump and will not vote Democrat ever I also don’t suck someone’s d because they have an R by their name. From what I’m seeing and hearing the majority of the populace is sick of it and paying the price. Long term like it or not this will lead to Democrat control and you know what comes with that. https://i.postimg.cc/CLH6wFph/IMG-0596.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7LcKKhSv/IMG-0597.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/8PtBysVC/IMG-0600.jpg You understand that the Dems taking Congress in a midterm was almost a foregone conclusion from the day Trump took the oath, it is nearly a statistical guarantee in our electoral system. The party in power loses seats in the House, and the margin was razor thin. I don’t like higher prices - but I adjust. I think the proposal to give every American adult $5k if we hold Congress is fucking retarded. I think we should be more forceful in how we deal with Iran, but we needed to deal with them. I think it was stupid to dip into the SPR to stabilize prices. It was short term at best, and left us with less oil for emergencies. Hopefully nations actually pay us back in the coming months as they agreed. There is plenty I don’t agree with Trump over, but finally dealing with Iran after 50 years of presidents from both parties kicking the can down the road is something I support even if I don’t always agree on the approach. I also accept that this will come with pain. Could have been a lot less if dealt with decades ago, and it will be much worse if we don’t deal with it today. Fuck the politicians from both parties that created this mess. There are no good options. There are options that are temporarily comfortable or less painful, but that’s what got us to where we are. At some point things have to change. Anyway, people have the right to bitch and complain and it is not without some merit, but they really need to ask themselves why are we in this situation right now? If they are honest with themselves, which they won’t be, they’ll admit that it was because we didn’t act with courage and instead focused on comfort rather than security and longterm stability. |
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger: I remember when Americans improvised, adapted and overcame adversity and didn't whine like bitchy little entitled cunts. Hard times breed strong men. Strong men bring about good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men bring about hard times. Rinse and repeat. Guess where we are on the cycle. Where in this cycle does it indicate where we are when we are ruled by a mad king? It seems to me that the hard times have been inflicted upon us by a madman who has grossly overestimated his intelligence and political acumen. Tariffs that make no sense and raise prices for manufacturers and consumers. Making enemies of our friends and friends of our enemies. Vanity projects that seem to preoccupy much of his time. Trump's businesses have declared bankruptcy 6 times, now he has set his sights on the whole world. The guy is a human hand grenade, and it's a weak argument to assert that people who have issues with his policies are just "weak". |
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Originally Posted By DetroitSounds: Yeah, my wife stocks up on shit there, unfortunately. Most of their meats/ fish/ eggs are garbage, and in the U.S. organic labels aren't the end all be all. It's hit or miss. Costco usually has at least a few things that are decent. You say in the US. It's not just the US. Organic labeling fraud is a rampant issue worldwide. Unless you grow it yourself, you really don't know what was used or how something was grown, processed, packaged, or repackaged (all organic certifying organizations have both policy's and amount limits to qualify or stay qualified as organic). As far as singling out Costco, they are supplied by the same large companies that supply the neighborhood grocery store. Their meat and chicken is probably better quality than most other stores simply because of their store & business policies. |
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Originally Posted By himarker: At this point we might actually be better off with Word Salad. If trump continues down this path he will guarantee she would have been a better choice. I disagree with President Trump on many things. That does not make Harris the better choice of the two, now or in the future. |
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Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. - Heinlein
Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. - Heinlein
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Originally Posted By konger: Those are 1990s prices you’re listing. Maybe a loss leader sales price. You didn’t find those prices all the time for sure. You are not correct, prices in the 1990's would have been less expensive than that. |
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Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. - Heinlein
Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. - Heinlein
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Originally Posted By kpacman: Where in this cycle does it indicate where we are when we are ruled by a mad king? It seems to me that the hard times have been inflicted upon us by a madman who has grossly overestimated his intelligence and political acumen. Tariffs that make no sense and raise prices for manufacturers and consumers. Making enemies of our friends and friends of our enemies. Vanity projects that seem to preoccupy much of his time. Trump's businesses have declared bankruptcy 6 times, now he has set his sights on the whole world. The guy is a human hand grenade, and it's a weak argument to assert that people who have issues with his policies are just "weak". Originally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By HiramRanger: I remember when Americans improvised, adapted and overcame adversity and didn't whine like bitchy little entitled cunts. Hard times breed strong men. Strong men bring about good times. Good times breed weak men. Weak men bring about hard times. Rinse and repeat. Guess where we are on the cycle. Where in this cycle does it indicate where we are when we are ruled by a mad king? It seems to me that the hard times have been inflicted upon us by a madman who has grossly overestimated his intelligence and political acumen. Tariffs that make no sense and raise prices for manufacturers and consumers. Making enemies of our friends and friends of our enemies. Vanity projects that seem to preoccupy much of his time. Trump's businesses have declared bankruptcy 6 times, now he has set his sights on the whole world. The guy is a human hand grenade, and it's a weak argument to assert that people who have issues with his policies are just "weak". That is so far from rational that it is ridiculous. We are not ruled by a mad king, we have separation of powers and it works. You have somebody who is decisive, and at times impulsive, but he does not rule us. Congress and the Courts still have a say. We don't have friends, we have interests, and the world realigns. Many of our "friends" have been fucking us for decades if not generations. Both parties allowed that to happen, often for parochial reasons and personal benefit. That is always going to be, and indeed may well be true of Trump as well. However, he has done more to try to restore some balance than any other president. Again, FAR from perfect, but if you think this isn't worlds better than under Biden and what would have been under Harris I can't help you. And the most laughable shit you said was with regard to bankruptcies. Six out of HUNDREDS of businesses Trump is involved with filed for bankruptcy protection as they reorganized. You just used the most bullshit libtard talking point that is easily refuted and cast doubt on everything else you said. |
The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger: You understand that the Dems taking Congress in a midterm was almost a foregone conclusion from the day Trump took the oath, it is nearly a statistical guarantee in our electoral system. The party in power loses seats in the House, and the margin was razor thin. I don’t like higher prices - but I adjust. I think the proposal to give every American adult $5k if we hold Congress is fucking retarded. I think we should be more forceful in how we deal with Iran, but we needed to deal with them. I think it was stupid to dip into the SPR to stabilize prices. It was short term at best, and left us with less oil for emergencies. Hopefully nations actually pay us back in the coming months as they agreed. There is plenty I don’t agree with Trump over, but finally dealing with Iran after 50 years of presidents from both parties kicking the can down the road is something I support even if I don’t always agree on the approach. I also accept that this will come with pain. Could have been a lot less if dealt with decades ago, and it will be much worse if we don’t deal with it today. Fuck the politicians from both parties that created this mess. There are no good options. There are options that are temporarily comfortable or less painful, but that’s what got us to where we are. At some point things have to change. Anyway, people have the right to bitch and complain and it is not without some merit, but they really need to ask themselves why are we in this situation right now? If they are honest with themselves, which they won’t be, they’ll admit that it was because we didn’t act with courage and instead focused on comfort rather than security and longterm stability. It’s not that I disagree with what you are saying here it’s that totally ignoring the struggles of the working class is a mistake as well. I think Vance is a better speaker he can be tough but do a better job of showing that he isn’t all about his own ego and does understand and care about the struggles. Actually have a plan to appease some concerns not about now but about long term. Writing it off as it’s normal to lose the mid terms isn’t what I’m concerned with. I’m concerned with losing mid terms, losing the presidency, and giving them a super majority at the next presidential cycle. I’m thinking long term here. We need to plan for that in other words yes there are things needing done which create struggles but the average Joe sees this struggle only getting worse with no plan to right the ship. |
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Originally Posted By Gr0g: There's still 40+ million extra mouths to feed who shouldn't be here. Supply and demand is a thing... The price of fuel isn't helping. Bitching about it hoping more Democrats will get elected isn't going to make it better. No one here hopes more democrats get elected. We actually fear that and current course puts us on that path over the next two election cycles as we are likely to get obliterated due to economic conditions even if “we” aren’t fully at fault for it. We need to do better at the perception the average working class person has right now. This isn’t defeatist it’s more let’s show a legit plan to improve this to give hope so we don’t turn midterm losses into a blood bath and another loss everywhere during the presidential cycle. |
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Originally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: No one here hopes more democrats get elected. We actually fear that and current course puts us on that path over the next two election cycles as we are likely to get obliterated due to economic conditions even if "we" aren't fully at fault for it. We need to do better at the perception the average working class person has right now. This isn't defeatist it's more let's show a legit plan to improve this to give hope so we don't turn midterm losses into a blood bath and another loss everywhere during the presidential cycle. Trump will never admit that. |
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger: You understand that the Dems taking Congress in a midterm was almost a foregone conclusion from the day Trump took the oath, it is nearly a statistical guarantee in our electoral system. The party in power loses seats in the House, and the margin was razor thin. I don't like higher prices - but I adjust. I think the proposal to give every American adult $5k if we hold Congress is fucking retarded. I think we should be more forceful in how we deal with Iran, but we needed to deal with them. I think it was stupid to dip into the SPR to stabilize prices. It was short term at best, and left us with less oil for emergencies. Hopefully nations actually pay us back in the coming months as they agreed. There is plenty I don't agree with Trump over, but finally dealing with Iran after 50 years of presidents from both parties kicking the can down the road is something I support even if I don't always agree on the approach. I also accept that this will come with pain. Could have been a lot less if dealt with decades ago, and it will be much worse if we don't deal with it today. Fuck the politicians from both parties that created this mess. There are no good options. There are options that are temporarily comfortable or less painful, but that's what got us to where we are. At some point things have to change. Anyway, people have the right to bitch and complain and it is not without some merit, but they really need to ask themselves why are we in this situation right now? If they are honest with themselves, which they won't be, they'll admit that it was because we didn't act with courage and instead focused on comfort rather than security and longterm stability. The problem in the midterms is going to be down ballot. If we lose the Senate, we can kiss any SCOTUS confirmations goodbye for the next 2 years. Probably make that 6 years cause at this point, I don't see an R being elected for POTUS in 2028. That is concerning with the two best "R"s on SCOTUS being 78 and 76 years old. Here in Ohio, we are more than likely going to end of with a Dem governor and Dem Senator, when Trump won this state by 11 pts two years ago. That's the bigger problem then losing the House. I agree that something needed done with Iran. Easy to say in hindsight, but it seems it should have been a Midnight Hammer 2.0, or total regime change. I loved Midnight Hammer, and if nukes was the problem we should have taken out the facilities and that was it. But with the Iranian protest, it seems to have precipitated a half-assed attempt at regime change (started to late to take advantage of the protest) and the blowback from the regime was much more regional instability. It's easy to say all this in hindsight, but it seems Trump has a big problem with messaging. People are saying "why am I paying $6.64 for diesel and $8 for ground beef, for what?". I agree with you something needed done about Iran, but I'm also pointing out it seems the management side of it is going to have real consequences way above just losing the House. That sucks. |
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: That is really the least of the problems that will happen if the midterms go as expected. Heck, Congress has done nothing the last 2 years anyways so losing it isn't that big of deal. Not like Trump was pushing major legislation that will get scuttled now, and not like spending was down and will go back up now. The problem in the midterms is going to be down ballot. If we lose the Senate, we can kiss any SCOTUS confirmations goodbye for the next 2 years. Probably make that 6 years cause at this point, I don't see an R being elected for POTUS in 2028. That is concerning with the two best "R"s on SCOTUS being 78 and 76 years old. Here in Ohio, we are more than likely going to end of with a Dem governor and Dem Senator, when Trump won this state by 11 pts two years ago. That's the bigger problem then losing the House. I agree that something needed done with Iran. Easy to say in hindsight, but it seems it should have been a Midnight Hammer 2.0, or total regime change. I loved Midnight Hammer, and if nukes was the problem we should have taken out the facilities and that was it. But with the Iranian protest, it seems to have precipitated a half-assed attempt at regime change (started to late to take advantage of the protest) and the blowback from the regime was much more regional instability. It's easy to say all this in hindsight, but it seems Trump has a big problem with messaging. People are saying "why am I paying $6.64 for diesel and $8 for ground beef, for what?". I agree with you something needed done about Iran, but I'm also pointing out it seems the management side of it is going to have real consequences way above just losing the House. That sucks. Only once since WW2 has the same party won 3 presidential elections in a row. We're going to get an ass-load of Dems this next cycle. |
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Whatever, dudes with your stealthN-T posts. I-D-C. Cost of doing business. Past admins let the Iranians get away with everything, sent them money by the boatload and we damn near avoided catching a hot one or six if they'd have been able to finish their nukes. Whoever let them get that far should have spent the rest of their time in the stockade. Idiots. Sheer madness with their "it's only for peaceful purposes" BS. Trump's fixing it but wars operate on their own timetables, not what YOU think it ought to be. Enemy gets to vote, too. (year before last these people whining about this war were cheering us going to Ukraine. How stupid was THAT?!??) Lots of reasons stuff is more expensive. Get used to it. Just the way it is. My property taxes haven't gone up very much. Few bucks. My insurance actually went down the last couple years and I've made no significant changes. Sorry some a yall gotta put up with blue state BS. Ain't that way here. Grocery prices. I shop in bulk at Sams. Dropped 300 last weekend on my monthly stockup. Re-upped my stocks of protein powders, drinks mainly. I'll do my meat shopping in a couple week or so. Buying in bulk and freezing stretches my dollars. My weekly bill varys, around fifty-100 bucks sometimes. It's just me & the dog. Yes. Grocery prices are up. I shop coupons and sales, buy in bulk and store where I can. Coupon deals getting scarcer as the stores cut back on this. Even the Kroger gas rewards are slimmer. I get it. Fuel prices are driving up costs everywhere. In my AO, there's NO reason diesel is more than gas. 4.39 for regular, 6.19 for diesel. FU oil company fatcats. FU californicated asshole newscum. And my water bill actually went down this month. Fancy that..... |
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adapt and improvise. i see so many people whining about costs, yet still have their yukon denali at87 super duper giant pile of shit, 500k house, dirt bikes, zero turns, etc etc etc. these are the same motherfucking spoiled cunts that wont give up anything. instead they bitch its someone else's fault. yall mother fuckers act just like the liberal cunts we cant stand and you dont even see it. grow the fuck up and be a responsible person. |
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Originally Posted By Twisted10: adapt and improvise. i see so many people whining about costs, yet still have their yukon denali at87 super duper giant pile of shit, 500k house, dirt bikes, zero turns, etc etc etc. these are the same motherfucking spoiled cunts that wont give up anything. instead they bitch its someone else's fault. yall mother fuckers act just like the liberal cunts we cant stand and you dont even see it. grow the fuck up and be a responsible person. I don't have any of that. I don't owe anyone anything. I'm still annoyed @ $6/gallon diesel and the high prices we have because the idiots in charge are, well, idiots. It helps lots too, when they say things like "inflation is a hoax". |
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Originally Posted By Twisted10: adapt and improvise. i see so many people whining about costs, yet still have their yukon denali at87 super duper giant pile of shit, 500k house, dirt bikes, zero turns, etc etc etc. these are the same motherfucking spoiled cunts that wont give up anything. instead they bitch its someone else's fault. yall mother fuckers act just like the liberal cunts we cant stand and you dont even see it. grow the fuck up and be a responsible person. X2 Also, too fat and lazy and ignorant to grow a profitable amount of food. |
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Originally Posted By Kobolowsky_Tires: Cost of doing business. |
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There are people here that think like this. ...the "proudly" part is the problem. No way would I be proud of $12 a gallon gas.
That new post was posted by the same guy who posted this 
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Get Active or Get Disarmed! That means get involved in helping good candidates in primary and general election. That is in addition to being politically active once they are elected.
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Originally Posted By Twisted10: adapt and improvise. i see so many people whining about costs, yet still have their yukon denali at87 super duper giant pile of shit, 500k house, dirt bikes, zero turns, etc etc etc. these are the same motherfucking spoiled cunts that wont give up anything. instead they bitch its someone else's fault. yall mother fuckers act just like the liberal cunts we cant stand and you dont even see it. grow the fuck up and be a responsible person. I agree with most of your statement but do you realize that a 500k house isn't much? Even in this shithole called Vegas that's almost the average home price. |
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Originally Posted By lumper: You are not correct, prices in the 1990's would have been less expensive than that. Yep. In 1997 I was paying 75¢ for a gallon of gas. I could stop in the gas station with $20, fill up my car, get a Mt Dew and beef jerky and get change back. |