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Posted: 4/30/2018 10:30:03 PM EDT
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Don’t get stung?
In all seriousness there isn’t a lot of options that I’m aware of. If it’s just a mild allergy then Benadryl might be effective enough. |
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Posted: 4/30/2018 10:32:09 PM EDT
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Meth is probably cheaper.
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Posted: 4/30/2018 10:35:15 PM EDT
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Might also want to look at taking a trip to Canada. A few years ago they were OTC at the pharmacies up there, not sure about currently though
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Posted: 4/30/2018 10:38:16 PM EDT
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Keep Benadryl caplets and oral cortisone on hand. Even without any known allergies in my house, I always have some at the ready, in the house and vehicles.
If stung, swallow one of each, then break open one Benadryl and dissolve the powder under your tongue, then dissolve the a cortisone tab under your tongue. |
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Posted: 4/30/2018 10:42:50 PM EDT
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The medication in the epipen can be bought in a large vial very cheaply. You would just have to prep be pre-filling a syringe to match your weight and carry that around with you.
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Posted: 4/30/2018 11:08:21 PM EDT
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The EpiPen Alternative That Costs Just $10
Look around, EpiPen isn't the only auto-injector, it's just the most well-known. |
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Posted: 4/30/2018 11:55:13 PM EDT
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I'm allergic af to bees, I carry a shitload of benadryl in my kit, and epipens, but with the recent price increase, my doc said he can prescribe a single dose of adrenaline or whatever is in those and I can carry a 25g syringe and just inject it myself if I get hit.
the thing I like about that is it's a lot smaller than the epipen, which is giant, and I can control the injection, which is nice. The epipen is scary. I poked one though a box on time, needle is HUGE |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:08:37 AM EDT
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I'm allergic af to bees, I carry a shitload of benadryl in my kit, and epipens, but with the recent price increase, my doc said he can prescribe a single dose of adrenaline or whatever is in those and I can carry a 25g syringe and just inject it myself if I get hit. the thing I like about that is it's a lot smaller than the epipen, which is giant, and I can control the injection, which is nice. The epipen is scary. I poked one though a box on time, needle is HUGE |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:18:10 AM EDT
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It's epinephrine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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adrenaline |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:22:33 AM EDT
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Wear a bee suit 24/7.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:22:35 AM EDT
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I'm very allergic to bees. My last two stings, a largish dose of Benadryl was enough to stop the reaction. YMMV
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:27:01 AM EDT
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It used to be that you could just buy Primatine Mist which was just epinephrine in a spray. I'm not sure you still can. The pills that they sell with the Primatine label on them are not. Supposedly they took Primatine Mist off the market not because it didn't work, but because it used CFCs as a propellant and the tree huggers convinced the .gov to remove them. There are supposedly a couple of companies that are trying to bring it back but since the formulation now involves non-CFC propellant, the FDA is treating it like a new drug. Idiotic. That stuff's only been around like 50 years or something.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:48:33 AM EDT
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How did you determine you are "mildly allergic"?
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Posted: 5/1/2018 12:52:13 AM EDT
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Vials are $1-2 each. Sharps $1. Med school $200k?
The manufacturer of epipens is fucking us over. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 1:59:09 AM EDT
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Simple answer, do you have a prescription? If you do, through my insurance, the Mylan generic epipen s are $30 for a set of two. An even better option is called Auvi-q, which is a competitor to Epi-pen and personally I think they are way better. Much smaller size too. They promise no out of pocket cost, so it is free to you.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:05:41 AM EDT
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See if you can get a amp of epi prescribed and just draw it up in syringe. Most cost of the epi pen is the patent and the fda keeping competition out.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:13:12 AM EDT
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I am allergic to insect bites/stings. I kept Sudafed handy until the meth heads screwed that up. I now keep Benadryl at home and in my autos. Take 2 and chew them if necessary. I still have a few Sudafed's and they wont make you sleepy!
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:13:40 AM EDT
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The EpiPen Alternative That Costs Just $10 Look around, EpiPen isn't the only auto-injector, it's just the most well-known. Adrenaclick auto injector. Similar type of device. Epinephrine in little vials is also cheap but the prospect of dealing with drawing up the right amount with a syringe and then self administering it under stress makes that not so practical. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:15:09 AM EDT
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1 cc tuberculin syringe x 2
1 ampule of 1ml epi 1:1000 (dose at 0.3 to 0.5 cc) 1 vial 50mg benadryl |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:20:23 AM EDT
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Check "primatene" inhalers. They used to be epi.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:38:01 AM EDT
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I'm allergic af to bees, I carry a shitload of benadryl in my kit, and epipens, but with the recent price increase, my doc said he can prescribe a single dose of adrenaline or whatever is in those and I can carry a 25g syringe and just inject it myself if I get hit. the thing I like about that is it's a lot smaller than the epipen, which is giant, and I can control the injection, which is nice. The epipen is scary. I poked one though a box on time, needle is HUGE The cost is damn stupid...but the ease of any autoinjector when someone is going into respiratory distress has its merits. If you're going to draw your own, practice practice practice. Practice under stress...inject saline into an orange after sprints/push ups. I'm serious. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:38:57 AM EDT
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SOME BAD INFO HERE Let's clear it up.
There is a DIFFERENCE between ALLERGY and ANAPHYLAXIS ALLERGY is itchy, runny nose, watering eyes, maybe hives, maybe your stomach doesn't feel good, your asthma acts up... ANAPHYLAXIS is a deadly systemic runaway inflammatory reaction that involves swelling of your tongue, upper airway, lower airways, blood vessels (angioedema) which then leak into surrounding tissue (puffy face and swelling digits), losing intravascular volume and tone (losing blood pressure), increased heart rate, which all can lead to shock, hypoxia, and death. If benadryl and a puff of albuterol solves your problem, you have an allergy. If you need an epi-pen and albuterol, you have an anaphylactic reaction. BENADRYL IS NOT A LIFE SAVING MEDICATION. It takes about an hour to reach peak affect mostly helps with annoying symptoms like itchiness/hives/runny nose. BENADRYL WILL NOT REVERSE YOUR AIRWAY SWELLING SHUT. You need Epinephrine (aka adrenaline) injected IM (by an epipen or an EMT) for that. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 2:40:10 AM EDT
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I have four Auvi-q injectors, I usually carry two with me. They cost around $4500 per two of them. Talk to an allergist and they can find a way to get them for you cheaper or for free.
If they aren't aware of the program, fill this out and bring it in to the allergist: https://www.auvi-q.com/pdf/Direct-Delivery-Service-Enrollment-Form-2.pdf |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 3:08:23 AM EDT
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Do you have insurance? If so, go see an allergist. I got 4 injectors for NADA, it was all covered on account of it being a life saving medication. It's not a brand name epipen, but it's the same medication, it comes in a thing that looks more like a kid's building block than a pen, and when you take off the cap it activates an electronic voice command feature.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 3:10:06 AM EDT
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The EpiPen Alternative That Costs Just $10 Look around, EpiPen isn't the only auto-injector, it's just the most well-known. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 9:51:51 AM EDT
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There was a CVS coupon recently that made it $0 for an epi-pen at CVS if you had insurance
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Posted: 5/1/2018 9:57:27 AM EDT
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For “Mildly allergic” local reaction only try keeping some Unisom Fastmelt/Sleepmelt tablets in your FAK. They’re a quick dissolving Benadryl tablet. Also keep a Pepcid fast dissolve tablet in your FAK to take at the same time as the Sleepmelt tablet.
If you have a more severe reaction don’t skimp on the epipen. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:04:31 AM EDT
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Just get the stupid epipens.
Make sure if you cary one, you carry both and you contact emergency medical treatment if you use them. People feel better, go on their merry way then die because they're retarded. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:05:01 AM EDT
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Good luck trying to get epinephrine in a syringe. My daughter is allergic to peanuts and with our insurance, we have to pay full price for RX meds until we reach our out of pocket maximum. Needless to say I tried getting a scrip for epinephrine from her pediatrician and getting a compounding pharmacy to dispense pre-filled syringes as a compromise and it was a struggle. Her pediatrician was comfortable writing a scrip (I had prior EMT training and hey, it's just an IM injection) but getting any pharmacy to dispense anything was a complete failure. CVS/Caremark has generic epi filled syringes/pricing on their website(~$10), but they wouldn't/couldn't figure out how to dispense it and the compounding pharmacy said they wouldn't dispense it because there was a commercial product out there.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:07:35 AM EDT
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The medication in the epipen can be bought in a large vial very cheaply. You would just have to prep be pre-filling a syringe to match your weight and carry that around with you. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:11:52 AM EDT
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Epi Rifle, chambered in 6.5 Epi. Delivers relief at 2,700 fps.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:13:15 AM EDT
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Don’t get stung? In all seriousness there isn’t a lot of options that I’m aware of. If it’s just a mild allergy then Benadryl might be effective enough. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:16:17 AM EDT
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If you are MILDLY allergic, you don't need an epipen
Epipens are for life-threatening allergy ONLY--as in Anaphylaxis and death |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:22:46 AM EDT
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Um.. How often do you encounter bees?
I have bee hives and work with bees, get stung about once a year. Before I got bees, it was pretty rare. Like decades. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:25:20 AM EDT
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The generics are incredibly cheap and essentially the same thing.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:27:01 AM EDT
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If you are MILDLY allergic, you don't need an epipen Epipens are for life-threatening allergy ONLY--as in Anaphylaxis and death If your MILDLY allergic you probably better have an epi handy. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:27:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:31:35 AM EDT
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Friend of mine just sold his Harley because he almost died from a bee sting. A bubble suit is probably your only alternative to the epipen.
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:36:32 AM EDT
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I always brought this up when people were bitching about the price. And a lot of people called me an idiot.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The medication in the epipen can be bought in a large vial very cheaply. You would just have to prep be pre-filling a syringe to match your weight and carry that around with you. Most places that mention epipens require by name an epipen. Schools won't take the risk. In fact the schools here won't even stock their own epipens, each student is responsible for buying and bringing in their own and having it stored in the main office. So a school may have a dozen epipens sitting in the office expiring every year. I believe their expiration is 1 to 2 years. Schools take their stance out of liability concerns, which really sucks the laws are written that way, but I understand the schools position. It is a complete scam by the FDA and the maker of the epipen. The FDA is moving very slowly to adopt any new auto-injectors even though competitors have been out for years. Until someone is approved and then proven in the real world, schools aren't going to change the option they allow. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:44:07 AM EDT
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I always brought this up when people were bitching about the price. And a lot of people called me an idiot.... I keed! I keed! |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 10:49:08 AM EDT
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Mildly allergic does not require an intervention with an epi-pen
So, put on your big boy pants and carry some benadryl. I'm also "mildly allergic" and have been bitten by bees, wasps and other stinging critters while riding my motorcycle. Al you're going to get is a nice sized welt and some itching. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 1:44:14 PM EDT
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Mildly allergic does not require an intervention with an epi-pen So, put on your big boy pants and carry some benadryl. I'm also "mildly allergic" and have been bitten by bees, wasps and other stinging critters while riding my motorcycle. Al you're going to get is a nice sized welt and some itching. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 3:06:27 PM EDT
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Try reading up on the subject. People who have mild reactions on the incident of being stung, have a good chance of going into anaphylactic shock on the second round. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mildly allergic does not require an intervention with an epi-pen So, put on your big boy pants and carry some benadryl. I'm also "mildly allergic" and have been bitten by bees, wasps and other stinging critters while riding my motorcycle. Al you're going to get is a nice sized welt and some itching. FF/EMT for 12yrs and also spent time in the ER. Never saw any cases of anaphylactic shock from somebody mildly allergic to a bee sting. A severe allergy perhaps..... 
Man up............................ 
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Posted: 5/1/2018 4:02:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pretty well versed. FF/EMT for 12yrs and also spent time in the ER. Never saw any cases of anaphylactic shock from somebody mildly allergic to a bee sting. A severe allergy perhaps.....
Man up............................ |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 4:18:31 PM EDT
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This thread is scaring me. Last 3 times I have been stung by a bee have been in the right bicep. Two were right after the other and the next about 5 years later. Both times my bicep got swollen and body was tingly worse the second time. I'm sitting here with goose bumps just thinking about it. I should probably keep some Benadryl on hand just to be safe ?
Edit, they were not honey bees. More like angry pissed hornet things that live in the Western Sierra's. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 4:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Adrenaline = epinephrine Learned something new....thanks GD |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 4:42:06 PM EDT
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That's probably why you were just an EMT and not a doctor. Still, it's concerning that you worked as en EMT and was ignorant of how sensitization to allergens works. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'm pretty well versed. FF/EMT for 12yrs and also spent time in the ER. Never saw any cases of anaphylactic shock from somebody mildly allergic to a bee sting. A severe allergy perhaps.....
Man up............................ Who determined that an Epi-Pen was the appropriate intervention for a non-anaphylactic insect envenomation? Did your dr give you a prescription for an epi-pen? As to sensitization of allergens, which allergens? While envenomation from just one wasp sting can cause sensitization. Testing showed it was far less common in bee stings as evidenced by the lack of an abundance of dead beekeepers, who do in fact, sometimes become sensitized to bee stings, but only after multiple envenomations. So getting back to your "mildly allergic" statement, that would require Benadryl to resolve. Having a family member who was diagnosed as needing an epi-pen, there's nothing "mild" about an allergy that can cause anaphylaxis. As to your concern about my being an EMT, I'll just chalk it up to your ignorance. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 4:54:48 PM EDT
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Just found out I'm mildly allergic to bees. How do I protect myself without going broke? Insurance if you have it should cover the pen (probably with qty limits). Call pharmacy ahead, currently there are regional shortages of Epipen and the generics. |
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Posted: 5/1/2018 5:14:33 PM EDT
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The medication in the epipen can be bought in a large vial very cheaply. You would just have to prep be pre-filling a syringe to match your weight and carry that around with you. 
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Posted: 5/1/2018 5:23:14 PM EDT
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That'll go over well if you're stopped by the cops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The medication in the epipen can be bought in a large vial very cheaply. You would just have to prep be pre-filling a syringe to match your weight and carry that around with you. The autoinjector was designed so you could easily self-administer, or so that anyone around you could easily administer the dose instantly. It works, and the now-released generics cost about $15. If you have a bee allergy that could go anaphylactic, you should carry one. A serious allergic reaction can kill you very quickly. There's a reason allergic reactions go to the front of the line at the ER. <------ bee allergy, gets stung once every other year or so despite being careful |
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