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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:16:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Glock needs to hire Castro Jr's mom
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:18:41 PM EDT
[#2]
What part of the competition specifically was intended to disfavor Glock? They’re complaining, so I assume it’s for a specific reason
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:20:11 PM EDT
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The only proper country in recent memory that handled a pistol replacement contract correctly was Great Britain.
Oi! Wankah! We need new pistols. Go to the pistol-monger and buy some pistols! And with no drama, fuss, or drawn out ‘tests’, they got new pistols. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:20:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Glock sure does know how to file a complaint.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:21:00 PM EDT
[#5]
They probably will never actually load or use them anyway...
They should just buy their weapons directly from China. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:21:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Glock has budged enough for the Canadian government. It already says sorry after every shot
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:22:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Wish I could get a couple milsurp BHPs from the Great White North. My Israelis kick ass.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:22:55 PM EDT
[#8]
I hope they import the BHPs
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:23:53 PM EDT
[#9]
Glock always files the same complaint about every government contract.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:24:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock sure does know how to file a complaint. Yup. It seems like the effort could be better spent improving their products. Perhaps, designing a model to be used by human beings. But what do I know? |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:26:52 PM EDT
[#11]
It seems like sidearms would be way down the list of shit to worry about for a military.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:26:53 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What part of the competition specifically was intended to disfavor Glock? They’re complaining, so I assume it’s for a specific reason Quote HistoryQuoted: What part of the competition specifically was intended to disfavor Glock? They’re complaining, so I assume it’s for a specific reason Basically: Paragraph 1.2.2.5: “‘Modular Pistol ’ is defined as a pistol where the entire trigger group can be removed and dropped into another pistol frame size.” Paragraph 3.7, Trigger Group: “The trigger group must be removable as a complete assembly. The trigger group must fit/function in any grip frame housing regardless of slide size or calibre.” Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Look, I carry a Glock so I'm not anti-Glock... But, Gaston's refused to ever do anything innovative besides half ass back straps, adding or removing finger grooves with generations, and the company has been left somewhat sucking wind when it comes to innovation. The of course Glock's bid to the US Military was obscenely high. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:30:34 PM EDT
[#13]
Maybe in 15 years, Glock will finally release a modular chassis pistol.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:32:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically: Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Yeah, this isn't surprising at all, honestly. The requirements were pretty much "please submit a SIG P320". |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:32:45 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe in 15 years, Glock will finally release a modular chassis pistol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe in 15 years, Glock will finally release a modular chassis pistol. When Gaston drops dead they likely will. eah, this isn't surprising at all, honestly. The requirements were pretty much "please submit a SIG P320". And who could blame them?!? |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:32:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they import the BHPs As soon as this contract is settled those guns go straight to the bandsaw or cutting torch. Probably all the small parts too. Can't trust most Canadians with weapons in my experience, and definetly not their government. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:33:36 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What part of the competition specifically was intended to disfavor Glock? They’re complaining, so I assume it’s for a specific reason I bet a Manual thumb safey |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:33:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically: Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Look, I carry a Glock so I'm not anti-Glock... But, Gaston's refused to ever do anything innovative besides half ass back straps, adding or removing finger grooves with generations, and the company has been left somewhat sucking wind when it comes to innovation. The of course Glock's bid to the US Military was obscenely high. So Glock does not make what they want, therefore the competition is unfair. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:36:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Says in the article the 320 that the JTF2 operator got shot with was not the issue either. He finger banged the trigger like we all thought and Glocked himself in the leg.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:38:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So Glock does not make what they want, therefore the competition is unfair. Exactly. Requirements state they want a modular chassis separate from a grip frame and Glock Perfection tells the Canadians, no you don’t need that, rewrite your pistol specs. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:39:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they import the BHPs I, among many I know, would jump at the opportunity to buy one. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:40:40 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, this isn't surprising at all, honestly. The requirements were pretty much "please submit a SIG P320". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Basically: Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Yeah, this isn't surprising at all, honestly. The requirements were pretty much "please submit a SIG P320". Well they want a modular pistol. Who can blame them? If that is a requirement they want why should they consider weapons that don't meet them? |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:40:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: Wish I could get a couple milsurp BHPs from the Great White North. My Israelis kick ass. Quoted: I hope they import the BHPs yes, we need them down here ASAP |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:42:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well they want a modular pistol. Who can blame them? If that is a requirement they want why should they consider weapons that don't meet them? Absolutely - they should be able to write their requirements in whatever way they want. I'm just saying I'm not surprised Glock is throwing a fit over it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:42:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Same as it ever was.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:43:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Sounds like they want a Sig 320/M17.
That is the only one that meets all of their requirements. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:44:34 PM EDT
[#27]
It's the Canadian military. How many pistols are they going to buy? Two or three dozen?
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:46:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Glock, "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WE LOST AGAIN!"
News at 10. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:46:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Is Glock gonna license to Colt Canada? Is SIG? I see this falling flat unless they do just like Ruger’s rifle. Tikka ended up licensing.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:47:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Glock gonna license to Colt Canada? Is SIG? I see this falling flat unless they do just like Ruger’s rifle. Tikka ended up licensing. Licensing requirements have been removed from this because they were told to go pound sand last time they tried it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:47:30 PM EDT
[#31]
I’m a Glock guy through and through, but this crybaby bullshit that happens when they don’t get a contract is tiresome.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:48:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Glock is pretty much going out the door at this point. Should've tried to innovate rather than spew the glock perfection bs.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:48:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the Canadian military. How many pistols are they going to buy? Two or three dozen? Enough to false flag and get a Mountie informant or employee to murder people and try to use it to gin up more gun control? |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:49:23 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems like sidearms would be way down the list of shit to worry about for a military. No shit, give everyone a Makarov and be done with it. 
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:52:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a Glock guy through and through, but this crybaby bullshit that happens when they don’t get a contract is tiresome. The fact that limp dick federal governments entertain them is even more pathetic. If had a contract for a new service pistol, I'd make the requirements whatever I damn well pleased and if Glock didn't have a gun to fit those restrictions, they could suck my dick. Complain and protest all you like, but at the end of the day I'm the customer, not you. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:52:17 PM EDT
[#36]
If they really wanted the 320 they should have just bought them. Not like your testing unknown guns.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 5:52:52 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, this isn't surprising at all, honestly. The requirements were pretty much "please submit a SIG P320". If the competition has a predetermined outcome then having it only opens you up to complaints. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:01:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock is pretty much going out the door at this point. Should've tried to innovate rather than spew the glock perfection bs. Problem is it seems like they have 3 different 9mm magazines at this point. One for standard Glocks, two different ones for their new slim pistols. They should make a P320 like modular design Glock as the next generation. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:07:10 PM EDT
[#39]
I have multiple 320s and glocks, but what is the .mil appeal of wanting to swap trigger groups?
Just go with glock 19/M18 size gun and be done? I’m sure there’s a reason but is the military really going to be caliber swapping? My experience from the military is: here’s your pistol good luck |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:07:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Problem is it seems like they have 3 different 9mm magazines at this point. One for standard Glocks, two different ones for their new slim pistols. They should make a P320 like modular design Glock as the next generation. Poop on modular. The only reason to have a modular trigger pack is the aftermarket which Mil isn’t going to engage in. I prefer dedicated weapons and Glocks are cheap. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:09:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Technically, these are not Browning Hi Powers. These are the Inglis-mfg Mk1* and No 1 Mk2 originally manufactured for the Chinese and British governments. They had so many in reserve stock, they were stripping brand-new, never issued pistols just for the spare parts. (See "The Canadian Diamond" Clive Law 2001)
The Canadian Forces were running around Afghanistan with WWII era Inglis Hi Powers, with a few specialized units like JTF2 using Sig 226s and other more conventional units using the single column Sig 225 9mm. When the Brit MOD wore out theirs, they just went to FN and bought a bunch of post 1962-mfg exposed extractor BHPs to issue as the L9A1 9mm. There is a famous photo of Prince Harry packing an L9A1 in Afghanistan:  Attached FileThen replaced the FN BHP L9A1 9mm with Glock 17 as the L131A1 in 2013. I would be willing to bet none of the Canadian Forces Inglis Mk1* or No1 Mk2 pistols will be released on the civilian market, they are all going to wind up going to the smelter, despite prices upwards of $7500 for a mint, in box Inglis No1 Mk2, They could buy a frick load of Glocks or M17s with the proceeds from the Inglis Hi Powers. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:09:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a Glock guy through and through, but this crybaby bullshit that happens when they don’t get a contract is tiresome. Every single arms manufacturer does this when they lose. It’s not exclusive to Glock. It’s almost as if it is an integral part of government contracting at this point. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:11:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically: Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Look, I carry a Glock so I'm not anti-Glock... But, Gaston's refused to ever do anything innovative besides half ass back straps, adding or removing finger grooves with generations, and the company has been left somewhat sucking wind when it comes to innovation. The of course Glock's bid to the US Military was obscenely high. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:14:24 PM EDT
[#44]
I don't what they buy as long as they surplus their Hi Powers and don't melt them.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:55:33 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock needs to hire Castro Jr's mom I keep forgetting she's still alive |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 7:06:01 PM EDT
[#46]
I really like Glocks, but some topic's brings out the emotionally unhinged if Glock isn't numbah one like the M17 & M18.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 7:18:04 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically: Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Look, I carry a Glock so I'm not anti-Glock... But, Gaston's refused to ever do anything innovative besides half ass back straps, adding or removing finger grooves with generations, and the company has been left somewhat sucking wind when it comes to innovation. The of course Glock's bid to the US Military was obscenely high. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What part of the competition specifically was intended to disfavor Glock? They’re complaining, so I assume it’s for a specific reason Basically: Paragraph 1.2.2.5: “‘Modular Pistol ’ is defined as a pistol where the entire trigger group can be removed and dropped into another pistol frame size.” Paragraph 3.7, Trigger Group: “The trigger group must be removable as a complete assembly. The trigger group must fit/function in any grip frame housing regardless of slide size or calibre.” Without saying it, CA basically wants the 320. You can't blame them since that is what the US uses. The 320 is giving Glock a run for it's money and Glock doesn't like that one bit! With mil contracts usually comes LE contracts, and civilians often follow who's using what. Look, I carry a Glock so I'm not anti-Glock... But, Gaston's refused to ever do anything innovative besides half ass back straps, adding or removing finger grooves with generations, and the company has been left somewhat sucking wind when it comes to innovation. The of course Glock's bid to the US Military was obscenely high. Ah, the competition required that they innovate and now they’re throwing a tantrum. Got it. I’ve said if before, the OZ9 modular pistols are what the Gen5 Glocks should have been by now if Glock was actually willing to develop anything new |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 7:20:52 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock always files the same complaint about every government contract. So they have "perfected" the complaint process?? 
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Posted: 7/21/2021 7:21:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, this isn't surprising at all, honestly. The requirements were pretty much "please submit a SIG P320". The Beretta APX and Zev’s OZ9 (a Glock derivative) also fit the modular trigger pack requirement. Not their fault Glock hasn’t actually done anything new in the last three decades |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 7:23:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Problem is it seems like they have 3 different 9mm magazines at this point. One for standard Glocks, two different ones for their new slim pistols. They should make a P320 like modular design Glock as the next generation. Zev already did that for them it’s called the OZ9 |
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