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Posted: 1/22/2021 4:55:05 PM EDT
Why hasn't flares or other devices been invented to seal gun shot wounds or stab wounds where a tourniquet can't reach ?


Sticking a flare in a gushing blood flow knife stab wound sounds like it would work to seal the artery no?
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:55:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Retarded.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:56:29 PM EDT
[#2]
Please don’t ever treat me if you come upon my wounded body.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:56:34 PM EDT
[#3]
FPNI
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:57:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Username and avatar is appropriate.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Why not a can of expanding foam
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:03 PM EDT
[#6]
A flare and a gallon of gas is a medical kit ? I am going to just bleed out thanks.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Wow you're still posting.


Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Why spend money on a flare when you could shove a charcoal briquette in the wound.  Charcoal will clean the wound too.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Probably because quick clot and celox are a thing.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:39 PM EDT
[#10]
Know how people jump out a window 100 stories up to escape fire? Very few people would be willing to do that and in combination with with flammable clothing, that is a hard no from me comrade. People don't think fire be like it is, but it do. (Did I do that right?). TT
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Hammermill thread
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:53 PM EDT
[#12]
Use the powder in your round to cauterize it like Rambo.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:58:58 PM EDT
[#13]
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Oh man, that would suck.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:59:32 PM EDT
[#14]
2020ers, lol.  


Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:59:34 PM EDT
[#15]
You go first, OP

I'll stick to applying tourniquets.
I'll gladly accept a tourniquet before a road flare.

I guess this is why EMTs, paramedics, nurses, and physicians go to school.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:59:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Go back to using leeches and a cartorizer.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:59:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Whut? Are you meaning like to cauterize it?
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 4:59:52 PM EDT
[#18]
You know you can shove gauze into a trauma wound, right? Cautery should only be used if there’s no possible alternative available to stop the bleeding. If you have room for a road flare, you can probably find some room for a pack of gauze and a trauma bandage.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:00:08 PM EDT
[#19]
Because burns are bad mmmkay
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:00:33 PM EDT
[#20]
Because duct tape has already been invented.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:01:24 PM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:02:37 PM EDT
[#22]
That's got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:03:14 PM EDT
[#23]
That's some Predator shit right there.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:03:23 PM EDT
[#24]
He’ll yeah borther
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:04:00 PM EDT
[#25]
OP is a moron.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:04:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:04:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Watching to many movies
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:04:57 PM EDT
[#28]
A bovie would probably be more effective.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:05:06 PM EDT
[#29]
This sort of shit is what makes me worry when I see dudes with decompression needles and those fuckin tubes you stick down dudes throats in their kit
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:05:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Why hasn't flares or other devices been invented to seal gun shot wounds or stab wounds where a tourniquet can't reach ?


Sticking a flare in a gushing blood flow knife stab wound sounds like it would work to seal the artery no?
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OMG. No...just no...someone has watched too much TV
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:06:02 PM EDT
[#31]
John Rambo poured gunpowder in his wound and lit it on fire. Painful, but effective.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:06:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:06:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:06:55 PM EDT
[#34]
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That one 20er who isn't retarded needs to get in here and boo this man.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:07:26 PM EDT
[#35]
Im guessing you have never seen any trauma wounds. Its ok. The biggest reason is, that wouldnt work out well for the patient.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:07:29 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:08:11 PM EDT
[#37]
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This sort of shit is what makes me worry when I see dudes with decompression needles and those fuckin tubes you stick down dudes throats in their kit
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Pretty sure those go up the nose

OP should feel bad for this thread.....like sticking a flare in a bullet wound kinda bad.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:08:11 PM EDT
[#38]
For a wound in an area that a tourniquet can't be applied, putting it on the neck will stop the bleeding.

I would prefer this to having a lit road flare (I assume OP means it is lit) shoved in my wound.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:08:22 PM EDT
[#39]
The OP watches too many movies.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:08:44 PM EDT
[#40]
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Pretty sure those go up the nose

OP should feel bad for this thread.....like sticking a flare in a bullet wound kinda bad.
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Up nose down throat whichever

I know I dont know how to use them so I stay far away
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:08:56 PM EDT
[#41]
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This sort of shit is what makes me worry when I see dudes with decompression needles and those fuckin tubes you stick down dudes throats in their kit
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The tube is for your throat? I thought it was to clear out stuck mre turds. Don’t mind the taste...
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:09:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Op is a newb. Flex seal for the win
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:10:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Why hasn't flares or other devices been invented to seal gun shot wounds or stab wounds where a tourniquet can't reach ?


Sticking a flare in a gushing blood flow knife stab wound sounds like it would work to seal the artery no?
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To cauterize it?

Cauterizing bleeds is typically something done on a delicate level in an operating room via a cautery.

Sticking a lit flare into a wound is an extremely bad idea. You're going to cause MASSIVE tissue damage from burns and it's unlikely it'll do much to stop bleeds. (+ the obvious risk of simply setting the patient on fire)

I'm not 100% sure about infection/toxicity risk but I do think a lit flare emits various toxic substances that you're jamming into the wound, + the burned area will be susceptible to infection, so even if you do stop the bleeding somehow recovery is going to be a bitch.

Now in terms of treating an artery bleed where a tourniquet can't reach we have a few options already.

Hemostatic powder such as quikclot, hemostatic gauze, etc.



Revmed or whatever is working on a big syringe that squeezes out a bunch of gauze sponges impregnated with hemostatic powder that rapidly expand in the wound channel to stop bleeding.

I've never had to use hemostatic substances so I don't know how well they actually work but I have heard they supposedly are effective even in cases of arterial bleeding.

EDIT: I did some googling. Emergency cauterization actually can be done, but it usually requires a metal instrument heated until it's extremely hot to sterilize it. It's very painful and is the last resort if medical care isn't available, you've tried elevation and compression (Even some arterial bleeds can be stopped via pressure. Not all of them, but some of them.) already, and the patient has already lost a significant amount of blood to the point their vital signs are deteriorating. There will be significant tissue damage and a high risk of infection due to the burns.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:11:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Give it a try and report back to the class on how it went for you
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:11:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Stick it in your Walmart shopping bag with the box of tampons and use a marker to write "IFAK" on it.

Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:13:37 PM EDT
[#46]
A road flare is about 3x hotter than the classic red hot knife cauterization, its also spewing all kinds of shit.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:14:01 PM EDT
[#47]
17th century: You have bad breath,   here are some leeches.
19th century: You have the consumption, you should do cocaine about it.
21st century: You have a sucking chest wound,  stick fire in it.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:14:53 PM EDT
[#48]
Are you on a treadmill while doing it? Need more details.
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:15:12 PM EDT
[#49]
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To cauterize it?

Cauterizing bleeds is typically something done on a delicate level in an operating room via a cautery.

Sticking a lit flare into a wound is an extremely bad idea. You're going to cause MASSIVE tissue damage from burns and it's unlikely it'll do much to stop bleeds. (+ the obvious risk of simply setting the patient on fire)

Now in terms of treating an artery bleed where a tourniquet can't reach we have a few options already.

Hemostatic powder such as quikclot, hemostatic gauze, etc.

https://www.medgadget.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Xstat.jpg

Revmed or whatever is working on a big syringe that squeezes out a bunch of gauze sponges impregnated with hemostatic powder that rapidly expand in the wound channel to stop bleeding.

I've never had to use hemostatic substances so I don't know how well they actually work but I have heard they supposedly are effective even in cases of arterial bleeding.
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We went from road flares to dildos....this thread is getting worse
Link Posted: 1/22/2021 5:15:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Road flares are for hemorrhoid's.  Bad hemorrhoids require a 30 minute flare.
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