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Posted: 12/15/2017 2:55:58 PM EDT
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F.GOV
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Posted: 12/15/2017 2:58:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:01:20 PM EDT
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Who needs the rule of law, and due process? I wanna cash out that shit!
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:02:48 PM EDT
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So the guy hasn't been convicted and the Feds are selling off his assets? That's fucked. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:05:05 PM EDT
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Feds: "It's worthless, and probably illegal."
 "BUT WE'LL TAKE ALL OF IT THAT WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON!!" 
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:07:01 PM EDT
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They don't even have to ARREST or CHARGE you to seize assets they believe to be related to the drug trade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the guy hasn't been convicted and the Feds are selling off his assets? That's fucked. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:11:08 PM EDT
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Good for them.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:12:21 PM EDT
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I hope Mr. Shamo beats the charges and sues the everloving piss out of the fedgov.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:15:26 PM EDT
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I hope Mr. Shamo beats the charges and sues the everloving piss out of the fedgov. How? They took his cash. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:15:42 PM EDT
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Good for them.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:16:37 PM EDT
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I hope Mr. Shamo beats the charges and sues the everloving piss out of the fedgov. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:18:47 PM EDT
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Some people simply aren't capable of comprehending liberty and due process.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:20:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:21:14 PM EDT
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How? They took his cash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hope Mr. Shamo beats the charges and sues the everloving piss out of the fedgov. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:23:44 PM EDT
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Good for them.  Unless it's Trump. He's terribly terribly upset that Trump is such a big meanie. 
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:24:37 PM EDT
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Fuck them
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:29:21 PM EDT
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Who wants to guess that it has not gone to trial due to defendant motions and not the feds?
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:30:53 PM EDT
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/feds-moving-quickly-to-cash-in-on-seized-bitcoin-now-worth-8-4-million/ A federal judge in Utah has agreed to let the US government sell off a seized cache of more than 513 bitcoins (BTC) and 512 Bitcoin Cash (BCH). At current prices, that would yield approximately $8.4 million for the bitcoins and nearly $1 million for the BCH.
In a court filing, prosecutors noted that due to the volatility of the Bitcoin market, both coins risk losing value. Both the BTC and the BCH have already been transferred to government-controlled wallets. The new round of seized digital currency belonged to a Utah man named Aaron Shamo, who prosecutors say led a multimillion-dollar ring of counterfeit pharmaceuticals, including oxycodone and alprazolam that were sold on Dark Web marketplaces. Shamo was arrested over a year ago—his trial has not yet been scheduled. Guy hasn't even been given a trial and the Feds already want to cash in. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:31:51 PM EDT
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So much for a secure currency .gov can't get it's hooks into...fucking pathetic.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:33:44 PM EDT
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So much for a secure currency .gov can't get it's hooks into...fucking pathetic. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:39:00 PM EDT
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Some people simply aren't capable of comprehending liberty and due process. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:39:38 PM EDT
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Good for them. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:44:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the guy hasn't been convicted and the Feds are selling off his assets? That's fucked. Quote HistoryQuoted: So the guy hasn't been convicted and the Feds are selling off his assets? That's fucked. Rule 32.2(b)(7) allows that “[a]t any time before the entry of a final order of forfeiture,
the Court, in accordance with Supplemental Rule G(7) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, may order the interlocutory sale of any property alleged to be forfeitable.” Supplemental Rule G(7)(b)6 provides: (b) Interlocutory Sale or Delivery (i) Order to Sell. On motion by a party or a person having custody of the property, the court may order all or party of the property sold if: (A) The property is perishable or at risk of deterioration, decay, or injury by being detained in custody pending the action; (B) The expense of keeping the property is excessive or is disproportionate to its fair market value; (C) The property is subject to a mortgage or to taxes on which the owner is in default; or (D) The court finds other good cause. The vehicles have been seized and are in the custody and control of the United States Marshals Service. Every month, the USMS is accruing $465/month in storage fees for these vehicles. The total expenses for these two vehicles currently is $5,010.70. The BTC and BCH have been transferred to a Government wallet. Due to the volatile market for cryptocurrencies, the BTC and BCH risk losing value during the pendency of the forfeiture proceedings. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are you confused or shocked? There's plenty of big government, tyranny loving people on here. I'd say it composes 35-40% of this site. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 3:53:09 PM EDT
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Good for them. 
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Posted: 12/15/2017 4:51:06 PM EDT
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He should have kept cash and buried that shit in undisclosed locations.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 4:55:18 PM EDT
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He should have kept cash and buried that shit in undisclosed locations.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 6:19:19 PM EDT
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Should have just left it encrypted on his iphone, and not used fingerprint reader.
A better headline would be "Feds crying again about encryption." Instead of "Feds steal man's bitcoins." |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 6:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:There's good reason. Also it wasn't just the govt doing this on a whim, it was OK'd by a district court judge. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 6:24:01 PM EDT
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So much for a secure currency .gov can't get it's hooks into...fucking pathetic. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 6:51:11 PM EDT
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Should have just left it encrypted on his iphone, and not used fingerprint reader. A better headline would be "Feds crying again about encryption." Instead of "Feds steal man's bitcoins."  He was peddling opioids.Glad they're being taken. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was peddling opioids.Glad they're being taken. Until he is found guilty, the feds should leave his shit alone. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:06:44 PM EDT
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It would be interesting if he is found not guilty, and can find a judge to order the return of his bitcoins, and bitcoin cash, with interest. No doubt the government would fight that order tooth and nail.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:06:44 PM EDT
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The government is all about taking money from the subjects. Where do I find the dark web ?
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:11:38 PM EDT
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Some people simply aren't capable of comprehending liberty and due process. -Mao Zedong |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Due process should still be a thing. Until he is found guilty, the feds should leave his shit alone. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:16:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was peddling opioids.Glad they're being taken. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he kidnap people and inject them with crack needles for kicks, or was he handing over a product with well known side effects to paying customers? The number of people defending a drug dealer is concerning. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was peddling opioids.Glad they're being taken. 
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:39:03 PM EDT
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Good for them.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 7:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Opioids and drugs like them are ruining many lives. Anyone caught peddling that stuff deserves to spend some time in jail. Glad they are dismantling him. The number of people defending a drug dealer is concerning.
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Posted: 12/15/2017 8:09:50 PM EDT
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The government is all about taking money from the subjects. Where do I find the dark web ? |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 8:15:34 PM EDT
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Wasn't there a huge seizure from Silk Road or the guy associated with it?
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Posted: 12/15/2017 8:20:40 PM EDT
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So the guy hasn't been convicted and the Feds are selling off his assets? That's fucked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/15/2017 8:26:02 PM EDT
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There should be a constitutional amendment against asset forfeiture.
And why the fuck has the guy’s trial not been scheduled after a fucking year? Either he’s guilty or not; plead him out, convict him, or cut him loose. That part is ALREADY in the fucking Constitution. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 8:30:24 PM EDT
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What the fuck? What if he winds up innocent? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/15/2017 10:14:38 PM EDT
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This is just another symptom of the entropy our country is being subjected to.
Law enforcement, like politicians, have lost their fear of the people that empower them. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 10:29:56 PM EDT
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Due process should still be a thing. Until he is found guilty, the feds should leave his shit alone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: He was peddling opioids.Glad they're being taken. Until he is found guilty, the feds should leave his shit alone. |
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Posted: 12/15/2017 10:32:51 PM EDT
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I bet Sessions is more worried about this guy than going after anyone important *cough* corruption with in the "Russian meddling" investigation *cough*
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Posted: 12/15/2017 10:33:59 PM EDT
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There should be a constitutional amendment against asset forfeiture. And why the fuck has the guy’s trial not been scheduled after a fucking year? Either he’s guilty or not; plead him out, convict him, or cut him loose. That part is ALREADY in the fucking Constitution. |
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