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Posted: 3/31/2020 11:56:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, just maybe the gubbament is putting their B or C team on these 2A cases instead of their very best. nope. i know the .gov lawyer. he is top notch. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 11:56:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, just maybe the gubbament is putting their B or C team on these 2A cases instead of their very best. 87D Chess. Trump knew his Judges would overturn it,so he passed it with a wink to throw the dems a bone. Pure genius. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:00:30 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see what the Fed's come up with in the next 28 days...
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:01:10 PM EDT
[#4]
Wikipedia!
 
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:02:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: probably not, but i had to check to make sure the judge was real and the opinion was real. i didn't believe it at first. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great but does this change anything. probably not, but i had to check to make sure the judge was real and the opinion was real. i didn't believe it at first. A symbolic victory is better than no victory. That being said, I won't be celebrating until bumpstocks return to "explicitly legal and unquestionably permitted for all applications" status. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: probably not, but i had to check to make sure the judge was real and the opinion was real. i didn't believe it at first. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:10:43 PM EDT
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Holy shit the Wikipedia call out on page 12 is fucking hilarious.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:11:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 87D Chess. Trump knew his Judges would overturn it,so he passed it with a wink to throw the dems a bone. Pure genius. Nope. the first judge to rule on the bumpstock cases in DC was a Trump appointee and she ruled in favor of the .gov. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:12:55 PM EDT
[#9]
So we can dig them out of the insulation in our attics?
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nope. i know the .gov lawyer. he is top notch. Why do you think his position so fundamentally weak here? |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:16:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They even worked in a futurama reference! Footnote 51 https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/909/991/48c.jpg OMG. This judge for SCOTUS! |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we can dig them out of the insulation in our attics? Another good one!!! 
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:20:08 PM EDT
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Shadow banned on Scribd seems weird. Why would they do that?
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you think his position so fundamentally weak here? I'm going out on a limb here and saying because the case is so fundamentally weak. To stand it requires the judiciary to read the black letter of the law incorrectly and to allow ATF and the executive branch to claim powers that they aren't granted. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:27:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Excellent level of snark.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:31:23 PM EDT
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Thanks OP! Looks like Judge Starr really bitch slapped the Federal Government this time around.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:33:15 PM EDT
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The Judge is just grinding on the incredible level of Stupid displayed by whatever DOJ attorney wrote that nonsense in the dismissal.
Won’t change anything. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:34:24 PM EDT
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That judge even has a Texas Judge name, Brantley Starr. He needs a promotion.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:35:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the scribd link is weird. it shows up fine for me and is still in my account. shadowbanned. Damn |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this is not my case, just FYI. Understood. Thank you anyway. You have, and continue to do a lot for our country. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The callouts to Wikipedia are funny as hell. holy shit 
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:42:56 PM EDT
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Trump Judge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brantley_Starr
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:44:38 PM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:46:11 PM EDT
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Wouldn't that be some shit if they told the FBI...
You guys need to put in a job application in the state you live in. And D.C. isn't a state. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:47:57 PM EDT
[#25]
but they could (and have) be banned on the State level, correct?
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Posted: 3/31/2020 12:49:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: probably not, but i had to check to make sure the judge was real and the opinion was real. i didn't believe it at first.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 1:02:13 PM EDT
[#27]
Even with a "win", is it just for compensation for the "seizure" and not legal ownership of bumpstocks?
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Posted: 3/31/2020 1:16:47 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump Judge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brantley_Starr Age 40. explains the Futurama reference also means a long future of protecting the constitution |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 2:43:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Holy shit that IS a smack down!
Great work!!! |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 2:51:45 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: but they could (and have) be banned on the State level, correct? Yep. Florida banned them for sure-damn those democrats that control the state.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 3:19:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Thanks Nolo.
I personally couldn’t ever get a bumpstock to work. My best was like 4-5 rounds and they were all over the backstop aka hillside. I’d rather I think have a binary trigger, but I’ve never shot one because, California. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 3:20:41 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even with a "win", is it just for compensation for the "seizure" and not legal ownership of bumpstocks? |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 3:26:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So we can dig them out of the insulation in our attics? I melted mine into a plastic bullion to be used later to 3d print one when the law is struck down. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 3:36:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So 5th circuit federal judge. Would have been nice if he was my judge a few years ago... Is it too late to refile? Its a taxing issue, so isn't that a 5 yr thing? |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 4:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Florida banned them for sure-damn those democrats that control the state. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: but they could (and have) be banned on the State level, correct? Yep. Florida banned them for sure-damn those democrats that control the state. 
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Posted: 3/31/2020 4:22:26 PM EDT
[#36]
LOL, this guy is all right!
(2). The Bureau is a law enforcement agency within the Department of Justice. About the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, https://www.atf.gov/(last visited Mar. 17, 2020). The Court takes issue with the lack of an Oxford comma after “Firearms” in the Bureau’s name. Oxford commas add clarity and cost nothing. For example, can the Bureau regulate firearms independently from explosives, or does the lack of a comma in between those two words indicate they can only be regulated when found together? These and others are big problems tiny commas can solve |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 4:40:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, this guy is all right! Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, this guy is all right! (2). The Bureau is a law enforcement agency within the Department of Justice. About the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, https://www.atf.gov/(last visited Mar. 17, 2020). The Court takes issue with the lack of an Oxford comma after “Firearms” in the Bureau’s name. Oxford commas add clarity and cost nothing. For example, can the Bureau regulate firearms independently from explosives, or does the lack of a comma in between those two words indicate they can only be regulated when found together? These and others are big problems tiny commas can solve It's like Trump said "find me a candidate for the bench who is sick of the federal government's bullshit. I wanna call him Judge Honey Badger!" |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 4:45:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/31/2020 4:47:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, this guy is all right! Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, this guy is all right! (2). The Bureau is a law enforcement agency within the Department of Justice. About the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, https://www.atf.gov/(last visited Mar. 17, 2020). The Court takes issue with the lack of an Oxford comma after “Firearms” in the Bureau’s name. Oxford commas add clarity and cost nothing. For example, can the Bureau regulate firearms independently from explosives, or does the lack of a comma in between those two words indicate they can only be regulated when found together? These and others are big problems tiny commas can solve That's good 
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Posted: 3/31/2020 5:00:14 PM EDT
[#40]
The use of Wikipedia in the Order is hysterical.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 9:29:33 PM EDT
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Evening bump for those who missed this.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 9:34:40 PM EDT
[#42]
The judge is resurrecting Lopez and Morrison ?!? Wow!!!
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Posted: 3/31/2020 9:38:28 PM EDT
[#43]
awesome, let's hope it does something in the right direction; pun intended!
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:21:48 PM EDT
[#44]
The
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:30:30 PM EDT
[#45]
The Court appears to have enjoyed penning that smackdown.
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:30:44 PM EDT
[#46]
You sure police powers aren't subsumed by the Commerce Clause?
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:33:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, this guy is all right! Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, this guy is all right! (2). The Bureau is a law enforcement agency within the Department of Justice. About the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, https://www.atf.gov/(last visited Mar. 17, 2020). The Court takes issue with the lack of an Oxford comma after “Firearms” in the Bureau’s name. Oxford commas add clarity and cost nothing. For example, can the Bureau regulate firearms independently from explosives, or does the lack of a comma in between those two words indicate they can only be regulated when found together? These and others are big problems tiny commas can solve Off to post that on the ATF Facebook page  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:34:29 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: probably not, but i had to check to make sure the judge was real and the opinion was real. i didn't believe it at first. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great but does this change anything. probably not, but i had to check to make sure the judge was real and the opinion was real. i didn't believe it at first. So you’re saying there’s a chance?!... |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:34:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sure police powers aren't subsumed by the Commerce Clause? Not if you know what the commerce clause is there for. |
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Posted: 3/31/2020 10:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you’re saying there’s a chance?!... 
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