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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:32:17 PM EDT

It would mean that Catholics, evangelicals, Orthodox Jews, Mormons, Muslims and many other religious communities could not raise religious liberty objections to any of the aforementioned rights of transgender women. In effect, religious entities would be secularized.
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"Equality Act is Anti-Christian"
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 1:45:48 PM EDT
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I saw this a few days ago. It is VERY troubling.

Refusing to marry gay couples would likewise be forbidden.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 2:36:32 PM EDT
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While this is bad, it's also got the potential for great good. It will separate the wheat from the chaff and we can formally declare what is ipso facto current reality: the majority of Catholic Bishops are softer than wet bread, most priests have the spine of a jellyfish, and probably 80% of laity aren't worth the paper their baptismal certificates are printed on.

The Church will shrink in numbers but gain in fortitude, stalwart courage, and heroic virtue. It will be nigh impossible to be lukewarm. The fog will lift and we will see the reality which has been there all along: fight for your soul like you should, for the glory of Christ the King.

We would be remiss in our duties to the virtue of hope to set deadlines; deadlines are just expectations, and expectations are premeditated resentments. Much like Stockdale (a la the Stockdale Paradox: https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/what-the-stockdale-paradox-tells-us-about-crisis-leadership) notes those with deadline/event-based hope would despair in the communist POW camps during Vietnam ("We'll be out by Easter!" Easter comes and they're stuck. "We'll be out by Christmas!" Christmas comes and they're stuck, etc. Finally, they just give up). Rather, as Stockdale notes, the hope is the end of the story, not whatever we might surmise happens between now and then. Our goal, as scripture notes, is to persevere unto the end (whether or not our individual [micro] end aligns with the macro [historical] end.) - Matthew 24:13.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 3:24:21 PM EDT
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I saw this a few days ago. It is VERY troubling.

Refusing to marry gay couples would likewise be forbidden.
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As will refusing to ordain someone who is half of a same sex "married" couple in those rites that have married clergy.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 3:42:51 PM EDT
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While this is bad, it's also got the potential for great good. It will separate the wheat from the chaff and we can formally declare what is ipso facto current reality: the majority of Catholic Bishops are softer than wet bread, most priests have the spine of a jellyfish, and probably 80% of laity aren't worth the paper their baptismal certificates are printed on.

The Church will shrink in numbers but gain in fortitude, stalwart courage, and heroic virtue. It will be nigh impossible to be lukewarm. The fog will lift and we will see the reality which has been there all along: fight for your soul like you should, for the glory of Christ the King.

We would be remiss in our duties to the virtue of hope to set deadlines; deadlines are just expectations, and expectations are premeditated resentments. Much like Stockdale (a la the Stockdale Paradox: https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/what-the-stockdale-paradox-tells-us-about-crisis-leadership) notes those with deadline/event-based hope would despair in the communist POW camps during Vietnam ("We'll be out by Easter!" Easter comes and they're stuck. "We'll be out by Christmas!" Christmas comes and they're stuck, etc. Finally, they just give up). Rather, as Stockdale notes, the hope is the end of the story, not whatever we might surmise happens between now and then. Our goal, as scripture notes, is to persevere unto the end (whether or not our individual [micro] end aligns with the macro [historical] end.) - Matthew 24:13.
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Good point. The ambiguity in the modern Church has been a thorn in its side for way too long. This bill may be what is needed right now to expose the demons within to the light of day.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 1:00:17 AM EDT
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Well, we are going into the catacombs again...
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:40:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:35:01 AM EDT
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Ha. At least those were still females..... yes, pumped chock full of horse steroids but still biologically females with girly parts intact nonetheless.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 2:17:35 AM EDT
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The Mormon view and comments on it. Realize that this is a very polite press release from May 2019, which was reiterated yesterday by the Church as well.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-expresses-support-fairness-for-all-approach

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/equality-act-statement-february-2021

But I think it's fair to say that we will NEVER allow gay/trans/etc couples to be married in our temples. We'd close them down first.
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