Federal Court Strikes Down NFA Registration on "untaxed" firearms (Page 189 of 195)
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Originally Posted By CarlosC: Three weeks left for the federal government's deadline to file a notice of appeal and I'm thinking they're not going to, or they would have done so by now. I also see the ATF has yet to put out the guidance they've said is on the way. Coincidence? For those of you that are much smarter than I am, and there are plenty of you, is it possible the ATF is waiting for the deadline to pass before they issue the guidance to possibly avoid certain scenarios or even create irreversible ones beneficial to us? What would be the advantage in waiting until after Oct 5? I mean at that point, the injunction become law and much harder (but not impossible) for future admins to reverse, so is this the endgame? NFA dissolution? Appeals are almost always filed on the last possible day. Did you turn in homework early in school? Same reason. |
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Originally Posted By Kharn: Appeals are almost always filed on the last possible day. Did you turn in homework early in school? Same reason. Except in this case waiting until the last minute has let probably hundreds of thousands of these arguably "worst of the worst" weapons, so incredibly dangerous that you used to have to pay an extra $200 to the government for a tax stamp to counteract the sheer evil that they dispense into the world, out onto our streets with nothing but, uh... probably a similar background check to the one they would have done anyway! Cue shock and horror and thinking of children etc etc ...And all those poor unsuspecting citizens out there who never realized they were shielded from such unspeakable evils by the power of Jim Crow and his tax stamps will discover... Well, actually, it's just a fucking tube and they're just marginally shorter rifles and shotguns and maybe this was all a big overblown crock of shit from the beginning  I think now that there are all these "form none" items out there and somehow the streets mysteriously fail to run red with the blood of innocents it'll be a significant blow if and when ATF does try to appeal. What are they going to make a case on, the tax revenue? 
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: First Freedom SBR https://i.ibb.co/RV3wRT8/20260915-133858.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BHytC6B0/20260915-132759.jpg Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. I know you can stick a mag in the foregrip but it looks like ass to me. Rather just leave it empty. Might shove a dildo in there for emergencies. Glock 17? If so, factory 24rd in the gun and a factory 17rd in the grip is the most balanced combo I’ve tried in my 20/20 SBR. |
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Originally Posted By Glocked: Glock 17? If so, factory 24rd in the gun and a factory 17rd in the grip is the most balanced combo I’ve tried in my 20/20 SBR. Not terrible  Def better than with the 33rd in the gun and 17 or 24rd in the grip. Have you ever had any issues with the spare mag in the grip falling out? Seems like it's just kind of held in the with friction, wonder how secure that's gonna be when running the Kenosha Kid quarter mile. |
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Originally Posted By Dolomite: ^ You guys better be careful! . . . (just fucking with ya) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/5feb04d4-ae32-4c1a-8f18-5582cffdf21f-1_a-3827787.jpg Nice, that reminds me I need to pick up a walnut stock for my TAC-14 hardwood! |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Not terrible https://i.ibb.co/gLCLG31g/20260915-135910.jpg Def better than with the 33rd in the gun and 17 or 24rd in the grip. Have you ever had any issues with the spare mag in the grip falling out? Seems like it's just kind of held in the with friction, wonder how secure that's gonna be when running the Kenosha Kid quarter mile. Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Originally Posted By Glocked: Glock 17? If so, factory 24rd in the gun and a factory 17rd in the grip is the most balanced combo I’ve tried in my 20/20 SBR. Not terrible https://i.ibb.co/gLCLG31g/20260915-135910.jpg Def better than with the 33rd in the gun and 17 or 24rd in the grip. Have you ever had any issues with the spare mag in the grip falling out? Seems like it's just kind of held in the with friction, wonder how secure that's gonna be when running the Kenosha Kid quarter mile. That’s the best combo I’ve found, everything else just seems so awkward. Especially when stowing in a bag. I’ve never had any issues with it falling out. I rattle canned by 20/20 and grip a while back, plenty of overspray inside the grip. It’s extra tight lol |
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Originally Posted By Glocked: That’s the best combo I’ve found, everything else just seems so awkward. Especially when stowing in a bag. I’ve never had any issues with it falling out. I rattle canned by 20/20 and grip a while back, plenty of overspray inside the grip. It’s extra tight lol What bag are you carrying it in? I'm currently EDC a 1911 .45 in a Maxpedition Remora. With 3 extra 10rd mags it's definitely a noticeable weight, but I'm used to it and it's managable. This Recovery Tactical set up is definitely too big for the Remora. I do have an Osprey Arcane floating around somewhere that I had contemplated throwing an AP5-P SBR in and it would def fit in there, with a few extra mags. |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: What bag are you carrying it in? I'm currently EDC a 1911 .45 in a Maxpedition Remora. With 3 extra 10rd mags it's definitely a noticeable weight, but I'm used to it and it's managable. This Recovery Tactical set up is definitely too big for the Remora. I do have an Osprey Arcane floating around somewhere that I had contemplated throwing an AP5-P SBR in and it would def fit in there, with a few extra mags. Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Originally Posted By Glocked: That’s the best combo I’ve found, everything else just seems so awkward. Especially when stowing in a bag. I’ve never had any issues with it falling out. I rattle canned by 20/20 and grip a while back, plenty of overspray inside the grip. It’s extra tight lol What bag are you carrying it in? I'm currently EDC a 1911 .45 in a Maxpedition Remora. With 3 extra 10rd mags it's definitely a noticeable weight, but I'm used to it and it's managable. This Recovery Tactical set up is definitely too big for the Remora. I do have an Osprey Arcane floating around somewhere that I had contemplated throwing an AP5-P SBR in and it would def fit in there, with a few extra mags. Really just depends on what I’m in. Work vehicle I’ll just throw it in an empty tool bag or backpack. Normal vehicle, just a plain looking backpack. The Recover and a few mags is light enough even a plain Jansport is sufficient. I don’t really carry it, the bag is just there as concealment in the vehicle. |
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Originally Posted By CZRider: Except in this case waiting until the last minute has let probably hundreds of thousands of these arguably "worst of the worst" weapons, so incredibly dangerous that you used to have to pay an extra $200 to the government for a tax stamp to counteract the sheer evil that they dispense into the world, out onto our streets with nothing but, uh... probably a similar background check to the one they would have done anyway! Cue shock and horror and thinking of children etc etc ...And all those poor unsuspecting citizens out there who never realized they were shielded from such unspeakable evils by the power of Jim Crow and his tax stamps will discover... Well, actually, it's just a fucking tube and they're just marginally shorter rifles and shotguns and maybe this was all a big overblown crock of shit from the beginning I think now that there are all these "form none" items out there and somehow the streets mysteriously fail to run red with the blood of innocents it'll be a significant blow if and when ATF does try to appeal. What are they going to make a case on, the tax revenue? Never underestimate the ignorance and utter stupidity of our legislators and their FUDD “duck hunter” supporters to claim suppressors, SBR and SBS are killing machines of puppies and baby’s. “Think of the chilldrenz!” |
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Originally Posted By Glocked: Really just depends on what I’m in. Work vehicle I’ll just throw it in an empty tool bag or backpack. Normal vehicle, just a plain looking backpack. The Recover and a few mags is light enough even a plain Jansport is sufficient. I don’t really carry it, the bag is just there as concealment in the vehicle. I currently have an AK in the back of my vehicle but it's definitely not something that can be toted around low key like a Glock in a chassis in a backpack. Might do the same with it in a plain old backpack along with some extra mags. Good to have options. As a bonus can toss some med stuff in the backpack as well. |
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Originally Posted By Kharn: Appeals are almost always filed on the last possible day. Did you turn in homework early in school? Same reason. Except for rulings that go against things Trump wants, like immigration stuff, constructing ballrooms, firing people, election stuff, etc., where appeals are filed almost immediately. That’s been shown time and time again this year. If they really wanted to appeal, they would have done so within 7 days, when a stay would have been automatically granted. Now if they appeal, a judge could choose to not grant a stay, allowing the current injunction to stay in place while it continues to be litigated. There is nothing to be gained by waiting until the last minute if they really wanted to stop this. They had their chance and now realistically it’s too late. Far too many suppressors and guns have been made without Form 1s, and suppressors sold on 4473s, or in FTF transactions, for the genie to be put back into the bottle. Easily in the tens of thousands, I’d think. On the plus side, I picked up my first 4473 suppressor today. Turns out that the can that I was waiting on from SS for weeks had actually arrived at my dealer a week ago, but they had missed notifying me. |
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Originally Posted By Shadyman: Never underestimate the ignorance and utter stupidity of our legislators and their FUDD “duck hunter” supporters to claim suppressors, SBR and SBS are killing machines of puppies and baby’s. “Think of the chilldrenz!” Oh trust me, I don't. I just think that 4473 cans are going to take a huge bite out of the rarity and mystique that has allowed all those shitwaffles to get away with this nonsense for so long. The more that your "one pistol for home defense, go to the range once a month" types interact with form-none stuff at the range, the less scary and obscure it all seems. Turns out it's just a metal tube or a shorter version of the duck gun back home in the closet. The goal isn't necessarily to jump right to Senator Scumbag realizing what a fool he's been - for now, driving up the number of people who hear scary news words about silencers and short assault weapons and go "that's not right, I've seen those, they're not that bad" is more than good enough. |
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Originally Posted By Shadyman: Never underestimate the ignorance and utter stupidity of our legislators and their FUDD “duck hunter” supporters to claim suppressors, SBR and SBS are killing machines of puppies and baby’s. “Think of the chilldrenz!” But, this is a case they will have an 87% chance to lose again. |
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Originally Posted By CZRider: Except in this case waiting until the last minute has let probably hundreds of thousands of these arguably "worst of the worst" weapons, so incredibly dangerous that you used to have to pay an extra $200 to the government for a tax stamp to counteract the sheer evil that they dispense into the world, out onto our streets with nothing but, uh... probably a similar background check to the one they would have done anyway! Cue shock and horror and thinking of children etc etc ---snip--- Also, Courts are generally not in the business of penalizing folks for using every microsecond of the time the law allows them. I don't want them to appeal, please don't mistake me. But until the appeal deadline passes, I don't think it's legally sound to surmise that waiting longer weakens or strengthens either side's case in any way. |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: First Freedom SBR https://i.ibb.co/RV3wRT8/20260915-133858.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BHytC6B0/20260915-132759.jpg Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. I know you can stick a mag in the foregrip but it looks like ass to me. Rather just leave it empty. Might shove a dildo in there for emergencies. Will that eject with the stock closed? |
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Originally Posted By trails-end: Will that eject with the stock closed? Originally Posted By trails-end: Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: First Freedom SBR https://i.ibb.co/RV3wRT8/20260915-133858.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BHytC6B0/20260915-132759.jpg Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. I know you can stick a mag in the foregrip but it looks like ass to me. Rather just leave it empty. Might shove a dildo in there for emergencies. Will that eject with the stock closed? Supposedly yes. Haven't shot it yet, still too hot here. Although I've got a NEO selectable FRD on the way so I'll probably have to suck it up once I get that installed. |
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Originally Posted By Dolomite: ^ You guys better be careful! . . . (just fucking with ya) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/5feb04d4-ae32-4c1a-8f18-5582cffdf21f-1_a-3827787.jpg @Dolomite what magazine is that in the rifle? |
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Originally Posted By hoothrewpoo: @Dolomite what magazine is that in the rifle? extendo |
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Originally Posted By LipschitzWrath: I understand what you're saying, and PLEASE don't think I am in DOJ's corner, because I'm not. But the genie is out of the bottle. It doesn't matter if the genie was out of the bottle for 14 days or 60 days - the end result is the same. Also, Courts are generally not in the business of penalizing folks for using every microsecond of the time the law allows them. I don't want them to appeal, please don't mistake me. But until the appeal deadline passes, I don't think it's legally sound to surmise that waiting longer weakens or strengthens either side's case in any way. Originally Posted By LipschitzWrath: Originally Posted By CZRider: Except in this case waiting until the last minute has let probably hundreds of thousands of these arguably "worst of the worst" weapons, so incredibly dangerous that you used to have to pay an extra $200 to the government for a tax stamp to counteract the sheer evil that they dispense into the world, out onto our streets with nothing but, uh... probably a similar background check to the one they would have done anyway! Cue shock and horror and thinking of children etc etc ---snip--- Also, Courts are generally not in the business of penalizing folks for using every microsecond of the time the law allows them. I don't want them to appeal, please don't mistake me. But until the appeal deadline passes, I don't think it's legally sound to surmise that waiting longer weakens or strengthens either side's case in any way. The ATF chose to not ask for a stay. They allowed thousands of non-NFA cans on the street. Tens of thousands of printed cans. It has essentially become impossible to prove a printed can was not produced during this period. It is not perfect, but they have allowed a ton of reasonable doubt. Not as good as postpartum reasonable doubt, but I will take it. |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Supposedly yes. Haven't shot it yet, still too hot here. Although I've got a NEO selectable FRD on the way so I'll probably have to suck it up once I get that installed. Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: Originally Posted By trails-end: Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: First Freedom SBR https://i.ibb.co/RV3wRT8/20260915-133858.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BHytC6B0/20260915-132759.jpg Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. I know you can stick a mag in the foregrip but it looks like ass to me. Rather just leave it empty. Might shove a dildo in there for emergencies. Will that eject with the stock closed? Supposedly yes. Haven't shot it yet, still too hot here. Although I've got a NEO selectable FRD on the way so I'll probably have to suck it up once I get that installed. It will eject and function just fine with the stock closed. |
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Originally Posted By broken_reticle: The ATF chose to not ask for a stay. They allowed thousands of non-NFA cans on the street. Tens of thousands of printed cans. It has essentially become impossible to prove a printed can was not produced during this period. It is not perfect, but they have allowed a ton of reasonable doubt. Not as good as postpartum reasonable doubt, but I will take it. Originally Posted By broken_reticle: Originally Posted By LipschitzWrath: Originally Posted By CZRider: Except in this case waiting until the last minute has let probably hundreds of thousands of these arguably "worst of the worst" weapons, so incredibly dangerous that you used to have to pay an extra $200 to the government for a tax stamp to counteract the sheer evil that they dispense into the world, out onto our streets with nothing but, uh... probably a similar background check to the one they would have done anyway! Cue shock and horror and thinking of children etc etc ---snip--- Also, Courts are generally not in the business of penalizing folks for using every microsecond of the time the law allows them. I don't want them to appeal, please don't mistake me. But until the appeal deadline passes, I don't think it's legally sound to surmise that waiting longer weakens or strengthens either side's case in any way. The ATF chose to not ask for a stay. They allowed thousands of non-NFA cans on the street. Tens of thousands of printed cans. It has essentially become impossible to prove a printed can was not produced during this period. It is not perfect, but they have allowed a ton of reasonable doubt. Not as good as postpartum reasonable doubt, but I will take it. The way they wrote the NFA initially was that it technically wasn't illegal to own a pre-NFA firearm without being on the NFRTR or without a stamp. They just wrote there was a presumption that if you didn't have the stamp you must have acquired it after the passing of the NFA so you lose anyway. Obviously that's wildly unconstitutional since there should be a presumption of innocence, but AFAIK it was never overturned, and they got to have their cake and eat it too by saying "it's not illegal, but you just won't be able to prove it was legal, and we will assume it is illegal." Nothing is stopping them from doing the same thing again. Sadly it appears to have worked the first time and there's no strong evidence it wouldn't work again. Overall sympathetic to your message, though. |
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Originally Posted By broken_reticle: The ATF chose to not ask for a stay. They allowed thousands of non-NFA cans on the street. Tens of thousands of printed cans. It has essentially become impossible to prove a printed can was not produced during this period. It is not perfect, but they have allowed a ton of reasonable doubt. Not as good as postpartum reasonable doubt, but I will take it. This is FAR better than postpartum reasonable doubt. |
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Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: First Freedom SBR https://i.ibb.co/RV3wRT8/20260915-133858.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BHytC6B0/20260915-132759.jpg Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. I know you can stick a mag in the foregrip but it looks like ass to me. Rather just leave it empty. Might shove a dildo in there for emergencies. There was a time I'd see a firearm like that and go "WTF, is THAT abortion?!??" Was. LMAO Today, I'm looking at that, and rethinking my own choice of nighttime Defender-of-the-faith & homestead firearm in which I've just procured the final piece of the "new" one, suppressor came in yesterday, form four expected by end of week. Supposedly. LOL. Why a 4? and I live in AZ? LOL. Cuz there's a few dumbass cops here don't know the NFA laws as well as they think they do. You don't hafta ask me how I know that, either. Didn't use to be this way but the current academies don't always keep current on what NFA actually covers. Especially with what's been happening in Texas. Wonderful. Absolutely stunning win! Never thought I'd see this day but here it is and it only gets better from here because at this point, they CAN'T put the toothpaste back inna the tube! (sucks to be them. Not sorry, happy to see!!!) Anyway. Remember to document items like this, prepared to justify (read that educate) some officer that doesn't know because honestly, it's better to be able to do that and avoid taking a charge than it is to arrange bail from a payphone down at County waiting on the initial appearance judge.... Here's a link to Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3101 which is pretty clear covers all of these nice new toys we all get to have on plain old 4473's and such. God Bless ARS 13-3101 |
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Originally Posted By Kobolowsky_Tires: There was a time I'd see a firearm like that and go "WTF, is THAT abortion?!??" Was. LMAO Today, I'm looking at that, and rethinking my own choice of nighttime Defender-of-the-faith & homestead firearm in which I've just procured the final piece of the "new" one, suppressor came in yesterday, form four expected by end of week. Supposedly. LOL. Why a 4? and I live in AZ? LOL. Cuz there's a few dumbass cops here don't know the NFA laws as well as they think they do. You don't hafta ask me how I know that, either. Didn't use to be this way but the current academies don't always keep current on what NFA actually covers. Especially with what's been happening in Texas. Wonderful. Absolutely stunning win! Never thought I'd see this day but here it is and it only gets better from here because at this point, they CAN'T put the toothpaste back inna the tube! (sucks to be them. Not sorry, happy to see!!!) Anyway. Remember to document items like this, prepared to justify (read that educate) some officer that doesn't know because honestly, it's better to be able to do that and avoid taking a charge than it is to arrange bail from a payphone down at County waiting on the initial appearance judge.... Here's a link to Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3101 which is pretty clear covers all of these nice new toys we all get to have on plain old 4473's and such. God Bless ARS 13-3101 Originally Posted By Kobolowsky_Tires: Originally Posted By BlackheartActual: First Freedom SBR https://i.ibb.co/RV3wRT8/20260915-133858.jpg https://i.ibb.co/BHytC6B0/20260915-132759.jpg Recover Tactical 20/20 chassis. I know you can stick a mag in the foregrip but it looks like ass to me. Rather just leave it empty. Might shove a dildo in there for emergencies. There was a time I'd see a firearm like that and go "WTF, is THAT abortion?!??" Was. LMAO Today, I'm looking at that, and rethinking my own choice of nighttime Defender-of-the-faith & homestead firearm in which I've just procured the final piece of the "new" one, suppressor came in yesterday, form four expected by end of week. Supposedly. LOL. Why a 4? and I live in AZ? LOL. Cuz there's a few dumbass cops here don't know the NFA laws as well as they think they do. You don't hafta ask me how I know that, either. Didn't use to be this way but the current academies don't always keep current on what NFA actually covers. Especially with what's been happening in Texas. Wonderful. Absolutely stunning win! Never thought I'd see this day but here it is and it only gets better from here because at this point, they CAN'T put the toothpaste back inna the tube! (sucks to be them. Not sorry, happy to see!!!) Anyway. Remember to document items like this, prepared to justify (read that educate) some officer that doesn't know because honestly, it's better to be able to do that and avoid taking a charge than it is to arrange bail from a payphone down at County waiting on the initial appearance judge.... Here's a link to Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3101 which is pretty clear covers all of these nice new toys we all get to have on plain old 4473's and such. God Bless ARS 13-3101 ARS 13-3114 is another one worth reviewing as it pertains to AZ intrastate manufactured SBR and suppressors. |
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Originally Posted By Dolomite: ^ You guys better be careful! . . . (just fucking with ya) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/5feb04d4-ae32-4c1a-8f18-5582cffdf21f-1_a-3827787.jpg Have you gotten those ets 40’s to work at all. I’ve had nothing but issues. Glock/P320/MP5 versions all sucked. Heck. It was the only way to make a P320 NOT fire. |
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Originally Posted By broken_reticle: The ATF chose to not ask for a stay. They allowed thousands of non-NFA cans on the street. Tens of thousands of printed cans. It has essentially become impossible to prove a printed can was not produced during this period. Everyone keeps saying printed cans, but what about a home machined metal cans? |
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I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor.  |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg You are now "Dangerous and Unusual"! Congratulations! 
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Originally Posted By Scare_Crow: Everyone keeps saying printed cans, but what about a home machined metal cans? If you are a legal resident of one of the 27 named free states, and a member of the named organizations in SSF v ATF (form 1), and Jensen v ATF (marking), then you can manufacture your own sbr/sbs/aow/silencer without submitting a form 1 or marking. Method of manufacturing does not matter. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg 
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg 
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg  |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg 
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Scare_Crow: Everyone keeps saying printed cans, but what about a home machined metal cans? Originally Posted By Scare_Crow: Originally Posted By broken_reticle: The ATF chose to not ask for a stay. They allowed thousands of non-NFA cans on the street. Tens of thousands of printed cans. It has essentially become impossible to prove a printed can was not produced during this period. Everyone keeps saying printed cans, but what about a home machined metal cans? I don't think that matters, except I can toss a printed can in the oven and the evidence is gone. Also, barrier to entry to printing a can is WAY lower than a home rolled metal can. |
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Originally Posted By Scare_Crow: Everyone keeps saying printed cans, but what about a home machined metal cans? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg Doesn't it have to be issued by the Sheriff of the county of residence though? |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I got the first Dangerous Ordnance License in Ohio from the first Sheriff in to issue them today. Everyone that applied when I started this 3 weeks ago got the call to get theirs as well! They got it all figured out and ready to roll. Now to wait and see if any of those folks want to stop in my shop and be the first person in Ohio to do a 4473 suppressor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/signeddol-3828259.jpg  NOW it's a party.  |
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