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Link Posted: 4/18/2024 9:48:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macro:
So...our government has official knowledge that a foreign government has infiltrated our infrastructure, with the intent to do harm....and we are doing exactly what about it?

If you still need more evidence that our entire government is owned by China, and that your votes don't actually count, I don't know what to tell you.
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^this

Meanwhile "We gotta kill those evil Russians so we can keep Ukraine safe".

Link Posted: 4/18/2024 9:51:23 PM EDT
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Erm, don't they normally lie about this stuff by omission to prevent panic? So in this case they are telling the truth to create panic? Chances are it happens right before or during elections, lol!
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 9:59:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ACEB36TC:



I'd be interested in a setup like that. Help?
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I bought my panels, batteries and inverters from Signaturesolar.com. They're close enough to me I picked up most of it in person and avoided shipping charges. Most of my panels are Huyandai 305w panels which are very inexpensive. If I do another rack I'll probably use the Huyandai bifacial panels which have slightly better winter performance. My batteries and inverters are EG4, they plugged in and worked immediately.

I did have to plan out my strings to match wattage and voltage for my inverters. I also chose to add a new breaker panel and re-route all home power to it. My original panel just has some 50 amp breakers that feed my inverters, so if the batteries are low it will automatically pull from the grid.

I built the racks from scratch and made them high enough I can pull my truck underneath.
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I gathered my power requirements from my electric bills and sized my system from there.

Feel free to reach out if you want more details.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:11:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?
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My original comment was expressing surprise that upwards of 60% were claiming to have 60 days of supplies.  I thought reality is almost everyone is in your position.   5 years ago I would have said tough shit get a job or two but this economy makes that practically impossible.  Having a family of 5 is hard.  I sure don’t have any solutions that don’t involve tarring and feathering all politicians.    And Greek style austerity.  
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:13:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
2020: China virus
2024: China infrastructure attack

China has the Dems backs on election years.
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Good chance the FBI helped them select targets.
Hey China pals...we might need some election chaos help.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:32:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WoodHeat:
I listened to the Shawn Ryan interview with General Robert Spalding today.

He pretty much said that we're fucked against China.


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Yep it's all over.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:32:40 PM EDT
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So our government is acknowledging they are assisting in giving aid and comfort to our enemies and refusing to protect us.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:33:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By perfectsilence:
They may take my water

They might take my electricity

They could even take my internet

But they can’t stop me from jackin off in the basement
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They'll fill ur basement with toxic chemicals and radioactive illegal airplanes Bro.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:34:26 PM EDT
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If you aren't stocked up on MREs and potable water by now man, what the hell are you even doing?? You already online, Go and buy some right now!
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:35:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheLASwamp:
A grid-down scenario for even just a few months would be horrible on a scale that cannot be imagined by 99% of the population, even the democrat-communist groupies. The disruptions would cause chaos, anarchy, and confusion on a scale never seen in this country. At this point, I suspect that's the main reason the democrat-communists plan to make it happen. It would be the perfect excuse to postpone the election, one they know they have no hope of legitimately winning. How far will they go to keep their power? I think they are willing to go pretty far. Farther than most people realize.
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90% dead in 7 days. I hope you've replaced your refrigerator with ceramic tile that can be fashioned into body armor.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:37:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?
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Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:
Originally Posted By taliv:


Actually, I’m 6’5” but only one super model gf and 2 GSD but they’re not Czech lol

Seriously though, most of the poll items are covered in my cabin build thread from 2 yrs ago.  If people don’t have 60 days of stuff, what are they waiting on?
Even with the crazy popularity of prepper groups of fb (there are prob a few dozen groups with >500,000 members) it’s still a tiny tiny percent of people doing anything.


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?

Shoulda made good choices. /GD
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:37:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:39:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:


Dude I have a year's worth, it's not surprising to me at all that most folks on this site have at least 60 days worth. Every read a Buck19delta thread?
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Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:45:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By captexas:

How does 1 fiber run near a street light shut down 911 operations in 3 states?
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If it really does we're in bigger trouble than we imagined.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:48:34 PM EDT
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As someone in a Homeland Security designated industry, this is a very real threat. Anyone who thinks this is a psyop is either retarded or someone who shouldn't venture beyond their 4-digit population town.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 10:54:30 PM EDT
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If it really does we're in bigger trouble than we imagined.
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Originally Posted By Wildfowler:
Originally Posted By captexas:

How does 1 fiber run near a street light shut down 911 operations in 3 states?
If it really does we're in bigger trouble than we imagined.

You need a better imagination.

Just imagine

Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:03:27 PM EDT
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Arf has been erratic for me tonight.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:15:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?
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Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:
Originally Posted By taliv:


Actually, I’m 6’5” but only one super model gf and 2 GSD but they’re not Czech lol

Seriously though, most of the poll items are covered in my cabin build thread from 2 yrs ago.  If people don’t have 60 days of stuff, what are they waiting on?
Even with the crazy popularity of prepper groups of fb (there are prob a few dozen groups with >500,000 members) it’s still a tiny tiny percent of people doing anything.


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?


You don't have to be rich or have a lot of space to have 60 days worth of preps on hand. A case of water is $5 and you can stack them pretty high and use very little floor space. If you're on a budget you don't have to buy expensive freeze dried food. You can stock up on bags of rice and vacuum seal them and store them in 5 gallon buckets which stack well also. I think people also recommend certain beans as well (so you have some protein with that rice). Peanut Butter is also one of the best and cheapest calorie packed foods you can buy, it has plenty of protein, carbs, and healthy fats. The only drawback to PB is that it's shelf life is usually about a year, but if you rotate stock and use PB regularly in your normal diet then you'll always be able to keep plenty around.

You don't have to buy all your preps at once either. I started out just buying an extra case of water every time I went grocery shopping, in 2-3 months I had plenty of water. Just do that with things you think you'll need and that also have a decent shelf life and it doesn't take long before you're all set. It's good to also rotate stock on things that are getting older and I'd also recommend doing test runs with your preps occasionally. If the power is out and you don't have a camping stove and propane you may have to cook outside over a fire (would not recommend though because the fire will draw people that may want your preps).

There are prepping threads on here pretty often. Hop in one of those and you can get a good idea on what preps are affordable for budget.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:17:01 PM EDT
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Aka.  The CIA I gonna turn off your power and blame it on china so they can justify their illegal spying, write themselves billions of dollars in cyber defense funding we will pay for, and maybe even have another proxy war through Taiwan.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:18:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M4-AK:
WWTD?

Joe does Nothing?
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Joe would be consistent. He never did anything.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:22:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:


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Everything this administration does makes logical sense if the Chinese are in control.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:25:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By captexas:


Was going to ask if this might have been a test run after seeing the story on the news tonight.  They tried to blame 3 states losing their 911 system on a construction crew cutting 1 fiber line while installing a traffic light.  How does 1 fiber run near a street light shut down 911 operations in 3 states?
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Outsourcing infrastructure that should be localized
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:48:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?
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Beans and rice for starters. other canned goods and spices to make them varied and palatable. We stocked up early in COVID and now just rotate through our supplies. A mile from lake Michigan so a couple water filters are stored. 5 gallon buckets and gamma lids for storage.

Water may be your biggest problem in TX, but you can make a diy filter. Plan on 1 gal / person per day. Something like this but you can also use storage bins for tankage.
How to Make a Gravity Water Filter at Home
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 12:14:43 AM EDT
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It's easy to say this is a false flag, but it was be moronic if China *wasn't* trying to do this all along.

Link Posted: 4/19/2024 12:26:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BladedRonin:
Of course they are.  The real  question is, what are all of the Chinese who have crossed our border illegally going to do when that happens
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Charge double at the Wok-N-Roll....Duh.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 12:27:51 AM EDT
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Charge double at the Wok-N-Roll....Duh.
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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 12:38:06 AM EDT
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But we gotta get Trump…
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 1:18:12 AM EDT
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a week before the election....
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 1:30:28 AM EDT
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Can't stop or prevent it. Can't find people responsible, but by golly they have done a bang up job tracking down grandmas and putting them in prison for taking an unauthorized tour of the Capital.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 1:55:56 AM EDT
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Damn Trump and Putin! Both are using up our tax dollars. The former through his criminal behavior. The latter through his attack on fweedom and demawkwacy!!!!
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 2:18:09 AM EDT
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Maybe you FBI retards shouldn't have been focusing on white Christians and other patriot groups instead of the Chinese threat.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 2:30:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RouxGaRoux:
SCADA login:

username: admin
password: admin


It's not that difficult guys
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95% of the guys who use our SCADA system are…not technically adept.  They’d rather their jobs not involve computers.

We do everything we can in IT to protect them from themselves, but they don’t make it easy.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 7:27:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:

Grid down right before they invade Taiwan. Require a public commitment to not hinder the invasion from the US Gov. What would you do?
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:


So whats the end game, because how does China crippling our entire cyber infrastruture achieve any strategic goal for them, it would be temporary and its not going to impact our ability to launch nukes.  Are they just going to ask for Bitcoin or Gold?

You know who would really benefit from a mass cyberattack, people who want more power, more unilateral abilities to subvert the constitution, people who really believe that Trump is the next Hitler, and would do anything to stop him, because he's Hitler 2.0.

Maybe China and those people are on the same team. I can see that.

Funny how the FBI isn't looking into the fact that lots of people at 1600 Pennsylvania had financial interests from the Chinese Government.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/joe-hunter-biden-109.jpg?quality=75&strip=all

I just pray if the grid does go down, Americans hold accountable the right commies.

Grid down right before they invade Taiwan. Require a public commitment to not hinder the invasion from the US Gov. What would you do?


That’s how Erik Prince thought it could go down IIRC. And his guess was that China is going to make a move this month or next.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 7:29:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:

90% dead in 7 days. I hope you've replaced your refrigerator with ceramic tile that can be fashioned into body armor.
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It won't be "90% dead in 7 days." But after the first month, things are going to get sporty. Especially if the supply chains break down and it truly becomes every man for himself. If the Chinese have actually pulled it off and they are dug in with all of our critical infrastructure, I doubt it's going to end well for we the people. That's to say nothing of the 15 million illegals that Biden's administration has imported into the country. Lot of military age illegals here now and we're told the government has no idea where they are or why they're here. It takes a lot of faith to believe nothing whatsoever is coming. I hope that's true and we have absolutely nothing to worry about. But that's optimism on the level of denial.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 7:34:15 AM EDT
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I am not afraid. Try again.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 7:36:58 AM EDT
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I guess we will be finding out about the new law being proposed, restricting even more of our rights to combat this threat, any day now.






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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 7:46:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ExFed1811:
I guess we will be finding out about the new law being proposed, restricting even more of our rights to combat this threat, any day now.






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The democrat-communist uniparty wants to bring the population to a place where they are finally ready to trade their freedom for their security. This is why they have made society so insane, violent, chaotic, and frightening. They want people to have to make The Choice.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:00:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:


Beans and rice for starters. other canned goods and spices to make them varied and palatable. We stocked up early in COVID and now just rotate through our supplies. A mile from lake Michigan so a couple water filters are stored. 5 gallon buckets and gamma lids for storage.

Water may be your biggest problem in TX, but you can make a diy filter. Plan on 1 gal / person per day. Something like this but you can also use storage bins for tankage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhQI1V8bMc
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:
Originally Posted By sirgilbert357:


You gonna buy the 60 days of food for a family of 5 for me? What about the water? And where would you have me store all of it?

I'm unemployed and don't have the space. That's what I'm "waiting on".

Yeah, tough shit, right? I know, it's not your problem, but how is it that some of you guys can't see that not everyone is actually in a position to store that much food and water?


Beans and rice for starters. other canned goods and spices to make them varied and palatable. We stocked up early in COVID and now just rotate through our supplies. A mile from lake Michigan so a couple water filters are stored. 5 gallon buckets and gamma lids for storage.

Water may be your biggest problem in TX, but you can make a diy filter. Plan on 1 gal / person per day. Something like this but you can also use storage bins for tankage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhQI1V8bMc


Lentils work better than beans.  Less water needed for cooking and no pre-soak required.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:11:55 AM EDT
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This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:13:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.
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Who's going to take them out of existence?
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:32:59 AM EDT
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So the FBI is planning a false flag
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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:39:32 AM EDT
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I really wish the ARFCOM GD mouth breathers would stop regurgitating Chinese propaganda. Global Times is literally the CCP.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:42:01 AM EDT
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Who's going to take them out of existence?
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Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.

Who's going to take them out of existence?


Well, Covid should have pissed the world off.  If that didn’t do it, nothing will.  So they will just talk of what China will do and will let it happen.  There’s nothing good there.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:43:43 AM EDT
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It is the favorite thing.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 8:47:35 AM EDT
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There is no reason for command and control to be on the internet for the power providers
Read only yes but command and control should be hands on in the building only
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Originally Posted By Dixie2009:


Well, Covid should have pissed the world off.  If that didn’t do it, nothing will.  So they will just talk of what China will do and will let it happen.  There’s nothing good there.
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Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
Originally Posted By AbleArcher:
Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.

Who's going to take them out of existence?


Well, Covid should have pissed the world off.  If that didn’t do it, nothing will.  So they will just talk of what China will do and will let it happen.  There’s nothing good there.

Are you talking militarily acting against China?
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I really wish the ARFCOM GD mouth breathers would stop regurgitating Chinese propaganda. Global Times is literally the CCP.
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I really wish the ARFCOM GD mouth breathers would stop regurgitating Chinese propaganda. Global Times is literally the CCP.


Multiple things can be true at the same time.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 9:03:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AbleArcher:

Are you talking militarily acting against China?
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Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
Originally Posted By AbleArcher:
Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.

Who's going to take them out of existence?


Well, Covid should have pissed the world off.  If that didn’t do it, nothing will.  So they will just talk of what China will do and will let it happen.  There’s nothing good there.

Are you talking militarily acting against China?


You’d think?   Or financially.  Quit trade, quit sending our meat to be processed and sent back, don’t allow their products into other places to be sold.
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You’d think?   Or financially.  Quit trade, quit sending our meat to be processed and sent back, don’t allow their products into other places to be sold.
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Originally Posted By AbleArcher:
Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
Originally Posted By AbleArcher:
Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.

Who's going to take them out of existence?


Well, Covid should have pissed the world off.  If that didn’t do it, nothing will.  So they will just talk of what China will do and will let it happen.  There’s nothing good there.

Are you talking militarily acting against China?


You’d think?   Or financially.  Quit trade, quit sending our meat to be processed and sent back, don’t allow their products into other places to be sold.

But who is going to do the actual fighting? There are two threads about recruiting struggles are the front page right now and 95% of conservatives here say the military is something to stay away from.

So who should do the fighting?
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Originally Posted By AbleArcher:

But who is going to do the actual fighting? There are two threads about recruiting struggles are the front page right now and 95% of conservatives here say the military is something to stay away from.

So who should do the fighting?
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Originally Posted By AbleArcher:
Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
Originally Posted By AbleArcher:
Originally Posted By Dixie2009:
This is all so tiresome.  Why is Chyna even still in existence.

Who's going to take them out of existence?


Well, Covid should have pissed the world off.  If that didn’t do it, nothing will.  So they will just talk of what China will do and will let it happen.  There’s nothing good there.

Are you talking militarily acting against China?


You’d think?   Or financially.  Quit trade, quit sending our meat to be processed and sent back, don’t allow their products into other places to be sold.

But who is going to do the actual fighting? There are two threads about recruiting struggles are the front page right now and 95% of conservatives here say the military is something to stay away from.

So who should do the fighting?


I don’t know.  The days of our grandfather’s military are over it seems.  Financial would be my guess.  Make them irrelevant in the world.
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