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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:13:29 PM EDT
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Feelz |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:13:29 PM EDT
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Article M, Paragraph A, Subsection G, Point A: It was HER TURN. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:13:47 PM EDT
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You are clearly racist.
Seriously though, it really makes about that much sense. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:15:05 PM EDT
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Not sure what law code is relevant but what I understand it is: Using his position to pursue opposition research through a foreign government, and using his position to damage that opposition candidate through a foreign gov's criminal investigation. Could be argued its kinda "You say my motive for murder is that we were dating the same girl, but now that he is dead he isn't dating her so there isn't a motive." |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:17:11 PM EDT
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The democrats talk of impeachment, and say that Trump violated the constitution and/or laws, but I can't recall them ever specifying which sections of the US criminal code, or which sections of the constitution Trump is accused of violating. What I'm asking is if anyone can recall the specific line items Trumps is accused of violating? Something; like US code #xxx, section YY, line VVV, or section #X, part 5 of the constitution. 
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:23:35 PM EDT
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Swamp dredging on Dumbocrat protected lands without a permit.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:27:56 PM EDT
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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim)
It's not really that hard to find. 
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:31:29 PM EDT
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This thread would be funny if it was funny.
Abuse of power. Withholding aid/relations from an ally to coerce their aid in an election and related issues. Sondlund is supporting the Dems narrative of the issue today, that actually surprises me I thought he'd support the president. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:31:51 PM EDT
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The laws of feelings.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:35:27 PM EDT
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The Democrats and the media are relying on the ignorance of the general population.
They figure if they tell everyone Trump did bad things that deserve impeachment, people will just accept it as fact and won't ask questions Unfortunately, they're right about a sizeable portion of voters. The Dems depend on the old adage: "repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:36:13 PM EDT
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And not only that, but he's Trump. I mean, it's obvious that he's obviously Trump, right? It's obvious. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:39:20 PM EDT
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Orange man bad!
There was already a thread here where they found he removed a tag from a mattress. What more do you need? |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:41:58 PM EDT
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TDS is real. I see it all around. Sure, I didn't like Obama but I never let him control my life like this. It's pathetic really.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:44:06 PM EDT
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Feelz |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:45:24 PM EDT
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Not sure what law code is relevant but what I understand it is: Using his position to pursue opposition research through a foreign government, and using his position to damage that opposition candidate through a foreign gov's criminal investigation. Could be argued its kinda mute now that Biden is no longer a front runner and not a real opponent of Trump in the 2020 election. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:47:38 PM EDT
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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim) It's not really that hard to find. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:48:09 PM EDT
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Not sure what law code is relevant but what I understand it is: Using his position to pursue opposition research through a foreign government, and using his position to damage that opposition candidate through a foreign gov's criminal investigation. Could be argued its kinda mute now that Biden is no longer a front runner and not a real opponent of Trump in the 2020 election. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:48:55 PM EDT
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This thread would be funny if it was funny. Abuse of power. Withholding aid/relations from an ally to coerce their aid in an election and related issues. Sondlund is supporting the Dems narrative of the issue today, that actually surprises me I thought he'd support the president. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:49:46 PM EDT
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Still have raging butthurt after all of these years after the election law.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:50:04 PM EDT
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Let's see,
1. Conservative - Guilty 2. Old White Male - Guilty 3. Making progress for the improvement of the USA - Guilty 4. Dems don't like him - Guilty 5. Dems don't like him - Guilty 6. Dems don't like him - Guilty Mainly reasons 4 - 6 |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:51:20 PM EDT
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Orange man bad.
It was her turn Not presidential Not swamp enough Pick one. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:51:30 PM EDT
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NONE of them.
They haven't voted to create impeachment documents/charges. They haven't done anything. This is all just a big show...nothing more, nothing less. If they were serious about it, they would take a vote....and move on. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:51:35 PM EDT
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Not sure what law code is relevant but what I understand it is: Using his position to pursue opposition research through a foreign government, and using his position to damage that opposition candidate through a foreign gov's criminal investigation. Could be argued its kinda mute now that Biden is no longer a front runner and not a real opponent of Trump in the 2020 election. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:53:28 PM EDT
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Trump is accused, and is pretty clearly guilty of, "not being Hillary"
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:56:43 PM EDT
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Paying the Russians to troll the internet, peppering it with spicy memes to help him win. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Paying the Russians to troll the internet, peppering it with spicy memes to help him win. 
Threatening to not give the Ukranians their free US taxpayer provided money (foreign aid) unless they give him dirt on Biden. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Laws? We don't need no stinking laws.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 1:57:34 PM EDT
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This thread would be funny if it was funny. Abuse of power. Withholding aid/relations from an ally to coerce their aid in an election and related issues. Sondlund is supporting the Dems narrative of the issue today, that actually surprises me I thought he'd support the president. 
Besides, the transcript does not even support the allegation. Also, just because a person is running for office, that does not make them immune from a criminal inquiry. This thing is so transparently contrived, only a true believer TDS'er could believe it. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 2:05:43 PM EDT
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that section specifies that "it shall be illegal for a foreign national" to do things...Trump isn't a foreign national, so it doesn't apply to him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim) It's not really that hard to find. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 2:07:22 PM EDT
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Where is our loyal Share_blue Squad. 1 or 2 very feeble attempts? That's weak. Maybe in one of their meetings they decided it would be better to not waste site resources on a losing cause. Now that I have said that, the usual suspects will attack, drive everyone else out of this thread and have a Share_blue Squad masturbation festival, you know, just like the old days.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 2:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Withholding aid? The Ukrainians never even knew it was being held up. How can you coerce someone if they don't even know they were threatened?
Besides, the transcript does not even support the allegation. Also, just because a person is running for office, that does not make them immune from a criminal inquiry. This thing is so transparently contrived, only a true believer TDS'er could believe it. I've been reading the statements of the people they're deposing. To the extent they've been made public, it isn't good. Sondlund reinforcing the narrative is a big deal. I'm worried about what Bolton/Tillerson/possibly Mattis are going to say, and what will happen if Trump is damaged by it. The stakes are incredibly high and people aren't taking it serious because Trump's been shrugging this stuff off for three years now. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 2:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose if you're following the story via Trump's twitter feed or Sean Hannity, yeah. I've been reading the statements of the people they're deposing. To the extent they've been made public, it isn't good. Sondlund reinforcing the narrative is a big deal. I'm worried about what Bolton/Tillerson/possibly Mattis are going to say, and what will happen if Trump is damaged by it. The stakes are incredibly high and people aren't taking it serious because Trump's been shrugging this stuff off for three years now. Our former ambassador to Ukraine? |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 4:58:04 PM EDT
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Code #I DON"T LIKE HIM
Crime - being icky
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:05:44 PM EDT
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WTF - are you kidding me??? He violated the MAJOR [unwritten] law of getting elected and not being a member of the Washington political insiders club. How dare you Trump come into our sacred Washington swamp and try to do things that help actual American taxpayers.!
"We will impeach the M-F'r"  ‘We’re gonna impeach the motherf-----’: Rep. Rashida Tlaib on Trump |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:09:25 PM EDT
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he beat Hillary.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:14:38 PM EDT
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This thread would be funny if it was funny. Abuse of power. Withholding aid/relations from an ally to coerce their aid in an election and related issues. Sondlund is supporting the Dems narrative of the issue today, that actually surprises me I thought he'd support the president. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:24:09 PM EDT
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The democrats talk of impeachment, and say that Trump violated the constitution and/or laws, but I can't recall them ever specifying which sections of the US criminal code, or which sections of the constitution Trump is accused of violating. Soliciting foreign help to defeat a political opponent in the future. The Emoluments clause of the constitution prevents Trump from making money from his "Trump Towers" empire while president. Based on documents of yesterday, he may be in trouble about telling financial people his properties are in one condition and telling tax people they are in another (i.e., fraud) If the above is true, his tax returns will be subpoenaed in quart, This will likely lead to most of his wealth is tied up with Russia ..... |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:24:39 PM EDT
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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:52%20section:30121%20edition:prelim) It's not really that hard to find. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:35:36 PM EDT
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Withholding aid? The Ukrainians never even knew it was being held up. How can you coerce someone if they don't even know they were threatened?
Besides, the transcript does not even support the allegation. Also, just because a person is running for office, that does not make them immune from a criminal inquiry. This thing is so transparently contrived, only a true believer TDS'er could believe it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread would be funny if it was funny. Abuse of power. Withholding aid/relations from an ally to coerce their aid in an election and related issues. Sondlund is supporting the Dems narrative of the issue today, that actually surprises me I thought he'd support the president.
Besides, the transcript does not even support the allegation. Also, just because a person is running for office, that does not make them immune from a criminal inquiry. This thing is so transparently contrived, only a true believer TDS'er could believe it. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:35:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are quite clearly not as smart as you love to pretend you are... 
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:39:52 PM EDT
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The impeachable crime I read about today on Twitter was extortion over the Ukraine call.
They just won't stop. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:42:44 PM EDT
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If you're genuinely curious, this article breaks it down.
It's actually unbiased too. For each act it provides a point/counterpoint. https://www.wftv.com/news/explainers/impeachment-inquiry-was-the-ukraine-call-legal-whats-next-for-whistleblower-what-happens-next-/990233351 |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Accepting foreign help to defeat a political opponent. Soliciting foreign help to defeat a political opponent in the future. Quote HistoryQuoted: Accepting foreign help to defeat a political opponent. Soliciting foreign help to defeat a political opponent in the future. The Emoluments clause of the constitution prevents Trump from making money from his "Trump Towers" empire while president. How much money was "donated" to the Clinton Foundation when she was sc of State with the expectation of certain .. uh.. shall we say... favorable treatments? Based on documents of yesterday, he may be in trouble about telling financial people his properties are in one condition and telling tax people they are in another (i.e., fraud) If the above is true, his tax returns will be subpoenaed in quart, This will likely lead to most of his wealth is tied up with Russia ..... |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:46:19 PM EDT
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Not sure what law code is relevant but what I understand it is: Using his position to pursue opposition research through a foreign government, and using his position to damage that opposition candidate through a foreign gov's criminal investigation. Could be argued its kinda mute now that Biden is no longer a front runner and not a real opponent of Trump in the 2020 election. We have an anti-corruption treaty with the Ukraine. Ratified by the Senate and Signed by Slick Willie. So, in accordance with the treaty, they have to cooperate with our investigation. We are looking at the previous election, and the previous administration. Biden is on video bragging about demanding a quid pro quo from the Ukraine. All the screeching is to deflect from the crimes of the Obama administration. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 5:48:52 PM EDT
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This thread would be funny if it was funny. Abuse of power. Withholding aid/relations from an ally to coerce their aid in an election and related issues. Sondlund is supporting the Dems narrative of the issue today, that actually surprises me I thought he'd support the president. Threats only work if the other party knows you're making them. Also we have a treaty with the Ukraine that compels them to participate in anti-corruption investigations. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:17:24 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/OxBi1Sx.jpg Is this the same dirt that Biden threatened to withhold money from the Ukrainians unless they buried it for him? That dirt? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Paying the Russians to troll the internet, peppering it with spicy memes to help him win. Threatening to not give the Ukranians their free US taxpayer provided money (foreign aid) unless they give him dirt on Biden. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Accepting foreign help to defeat a political opponent. Soliciting foreign help to defeat a political opponent in the future. The Emoluments clause of the constitution prevents Trump from making money from his "Trump Towers" empire while president. Based on documents of yesterday, he may be in trouble about telling financial people his properties are in one condition and telling tax people they are in another (i.e., fraud) If the above is true, his tax returns will be subpoenaed in quart, This will likely lead to most of his wealth is tied up with Russia .....
That is some serious wishful thinking based on zero evidence. None. The narrative about Ukrane is actually the opposite of what CNN claims. Trump is NOT required to sell his business assets, but rather to relinquish control while in office. He has done so. Not fraud. Wishful thinking. Two accounting firms that come up with the same numbers is, let's just say, not as common as people think. Especially when subjective valuation is involved. And there it is: RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! Any evidence for the last claim? Or is this just a perpetuation of the gaslighting campaign? |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:29:56 PM EDT
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They disagree with his foreign policy, No matter what it is, and whatever that is makes him guilty of “colluding” or “withholding” or “extorting” or whatever.
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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:30:23 PM EDT
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these these people think they know although it seems like, if Trump committed extortion, Biden did the same thing. To me it also seems like federal aid to other countries is 100% extortion. Do what we want and we will give you money.
Fuck I can't paste. google theintercept.com what laws trump broke |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:32:06 PM EDT
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You do have to laugh when the dems like AOC say President Trump has committed so many crimes but never names a one.
The real question is did Nick Mulvaney screw over President Trump by saying there was a quid pro quo with Ukraine. Investigate the dems about the server or no money but the media is now spinning it. Mulvaney told the press it happens all the time so get over it. Amazing how the dems can use foreign contacts to try and set up Trump but for Trump to try and investigate corruption by former dem US officials is not only off limits but a crime. |
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Posted: 10/17/2019 6:34:04 PM EDT
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Winning an election against a democrat. The worst crime
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