I was proposing a simple floor, people who have accomplished X or greater are not stupid.

I was not claiming intelligence is pegged to business success.

The Lefts argument isn’t Soros is smarter than Trump cause his Net Worth is greater. Their argument is that Trump isn’t intelligent at all (because they disagree with him politically). It’s a retarded claim.

ETA: Putting it another way.

A) I don’t think Soros or Zuckerberg are stupid. They’ve accomplished a lot, gone to great schools etc. I think their politics are childish or malicious depending.

B) The BIL was also claiming he could run the country better than Trump cause he’s so stupid. I was putting in context for him that he couldn’t even run his current employer if handed the reins today.

Much less build a huge business.

Much much much less fun the USA.

Nixon - was stupid - he was a crook
Ford - a buffoon that couldn't even walk without falling
Regan - senile and was going to get us in a war with Russia. He fell asleep during cabinet meetings.
Bush I - clueless and couldn't find his way out of a bathroom
Bush II - a chimpanzee had a higher IQ
Trump - a total moron that collaborated with Russians to beat the smartest woman in the world

Carter - a deeply religious man with moral dignity and former Annapolis graduate
Clinton- a humble Rhodes Scholar and extraordinary diplomat that connected with and "felt the pain" of Americans
Obama - perhaps the smartest and most dignified president ever.

Hillary - Smartest woman ever. Perhaps the most qualified person ever to be president.

I think I see a pattern here

As a kid I recall leftists calling Eisenhower stupid.
Never ends.

So we can assume that Soros, Mark Cuban, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, Bernie Sanders, and the lot of them are smarter than you because of how much money they have?

Or am I understanding you incorrectly?

Cool, I agree with you.

The argument isn't whether or not Trump is a genius, it whether or not he is stupid.

Leftist claim he is basically a functional retard.

I do think Trump's age is starting to catch up with him though.

This opinion has nothing to do with the media either, I'm simply going off what I read in his own words (tweets or actual transcripts of his speeches).

So much of it is a rambling incoherent mess.

I think some people try to make the case that he is.  I agree that he's not stupid.  But he certainly says a lot of stupid shit, in my opinion.  And like all of us, I think he is ignorant.  Problem is, he's one of those arrogantly ignorant people.  That's a common trait among politicians

Just like a poster above me said, I do think age is catching up with him.  I'm sure he was sharp as hell in his prime.  Every now and then you hear him drop away from "speech mode" and go into "business mode" and it's like two different people.  I like hearing that.

You clearly think you're the smartest person in the room. It's doubly sad that you're clearly wrong.

What part of my statement above, are you having trouble understanding?

That ain't no shit.

I would have bought a couple of Culvers in good locations

He wants to make sure you understand him. ;-)

I asked questions already to try to understand you better.

More devious for sure.

Ah you caught me.

I don't, but if you do, more power to you.

So you could be perfect?

Are you over 70yrs old with a million different things on your fucking mind?

Is everybody securitizing, analyzing, criticizing everything you say in front of 30 fucking cameras?

George W wasn't even close to Trump's age, what did you think he sounded like?

Id buy some securitized Trump.  Can I have the most senior tranche

I answered them in the post you quoted to ask them.

Further, I stated running large successful businesses is hard. Since when are Michael Moore, Nancy Pelosi, and Bernie Sanders start running successful large businesses?

You can't even ask logical questions.

...except Wolf Blitzer.

I like your summary!

I recall, as a young pup, laughing at what a klutz Ford was, based on how he was portrayed by the MSM.  My father informed me, at a young age, of the power of the manipulation by the media.  He described how Ford was likely the most athletic POTUS we have ever had, and it was also likely that I would never be as athletic as he was, and I was the dope for being swindled by my TV set.   I’ve never forgotten that lesson and it is as true today as it was 45 years ago.

And guess what.  I never did become an All American Collegiate athlete!   Dad had some wisdom.

@mardoc

They did.  There's one called Committed Nutters Nation.  There's another one called  Mental Services Network of Bipolar Conditions.  etc...

He's not quite right, he won't get it.

He's trying to build a motorcycle company, an industry that is dying a slow but steady death, he's got a long haul ahead of him that is going to flop.

Why? Because he don't listen to people. LOL

Almost like an arrogant ignorant president huh....oh, except the president is very successful...go figure....

I have quite a bit of fucking things in my mind. I'm far from perfect, but I know best when not to run my fucking mouth in front of 30 fucking cameras.

George W was all right in my book.

Have you ever considered that he says what he says in front of the cameras for a very specific reason?  Like maybe he is smart enough to realize that this country has no hope of long term repair unless the liberal media is destroyed so that a new form of news backed by honesty and integrity will actually do what the founders designed it to do?Or do you actually think the MSM is going to magically one day just decide on its own that being the propaganda arm of the left is a bad idea and actually change itself to be impartial.....

What's on your mind? What's for supper? Where should I stop for gas? What am I going to do when them 30 cameras show up and I have to shoot the shit?LOL

You're far from perfect???? Hard to believe when you're the one saying what it takes to be perrrrrfect grasshopper.

If you had no problem with GWB then STFU, Trump isn't any worse, nobody said he was better.

Hillary lost, move on. Trump is fuckin Trump! So the fuck what?

He got a participation trophy!

Dilly Dilly!

I think Ford played football for Michigan State - the liberals would say  "He must have played with a helmet" ... he may have played in the without the mask era, but he was athletic. He had a place a Vail and was skiing long after he was President.

While I agree, only one person on that entire list said and still says shit like this:

“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

Nevermind, have a good life dude. later.