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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Space exploration is wrong right now, total waste of resources and man power. They claim to know all this cool shit from telescopes and everything is so incredibly out of reach it's worthless. Unless we fix our problems at home, who gives a shit that it would take millions of years of travel to our closest star, or whatever the number is because it doesn't matter. We're stuck here, the other planets aren't habitable. If you want to expend our entire planet to habit mars, go for it, I don't care. You literally need to expend our planet to inhabit mars. This is almost word for word what the eco nuts say. Either you are trolling, Prince William, or have ZERO clue how the space program has enriched your life. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:02:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The man is a pathological liar and grifter. I hope the fucker ends up going to prison for securities fraud like he fucking deserves. You’re entitled to your own emotions but god damn you are ignorant of facts. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:09:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re entitled to your own emotions but god damn you are ignorant of facts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The man is a pathological liar and grifter. I hope the fucker ends up going to prison for securities fraud like he fucking deserves. You’re entitled to your own emotions but god damn you are ignorant of facts. Seriously. 
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:09:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blowing money on space travel right now, is like a homeowner that’s bankrupt, their family’s starving and eviction proceedings starting this weekend but your planning on a trip to Paris, tickets bought and all inclusive month long party vacation paid for. We need to buckle down and fix our broken assed society before wasting resources on shit like this. Because IMHO, we’re closer to living in caves by candle light than living on a huge space station orbiting Mars. Our society resembles the show “ the 100 “, our best minds obsessing over getting a old space ship into orbit while out side cannibals , inside communists undermining everything, and neglected power plant radiation going to kill us within days. It’s not govt funded. Why do you hate capitalism and freedom? |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:22:49 PM EDT
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I don't know why such a big deal is made about exploring space and getting into space when the Earth is already in space.
If we need to go to Mars, why not build a large rocket into the side of the Earth and push the entire planet in Mars' direction? No need to develop a special spacecraft with limited capacity and only "the chosen few" get to escape? Additionally, as the whole planet moves further from the Sun, global warming is reduced due to decreased solar radiation and the penguins will live, the ice caps will grow massively, and green peace will be unemployed. Once we get to Mars, everyone knows you just have to put your hand on the thing with the alien's handprint on it, wait a few minutes and an atmosphere is produced that will let everyone breath and live happily every after. We can then ditch Earth, or use it as a prison planet. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:31:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why such a big deal is made about exploring space and getting into space when the Earth is already in space. If we need to go to Mars, why not build a large rocket into the side of the Earth and push the entire planet in Mars' direction? No need to develop a special spacecraft with limited capacity and only "the chosen few" get to escape? Additionally, as the whole planet moves further from the Sun, global warming is reduced due to decreased solar radiation and the penguins will live, the ice caps will grow massively, and green peace will be unemployed. Once we get to Mars, everyone knows you just have to put your hand on the thing with the alien's handprint on it, wait a few minutes and an atmosphere is produced that will let everyone breath and live happily every after. We can then ditch Earth, or use it as a prison planet. This is totally possible within the next 10 years using existing tech. If you disagree, then you are taking a giant crap on the graves of Columbus and the Wright Brothers. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:39:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously. You can get to a lot of places as a conman, but running two of the world’s most valuable companies ain’t one of them. The hate for musk and spacex on this board is mind boggling. He has singlehandedly transformed a communist model of space into capitalism. SpaceX is the very definition of why capitalism is better than all the other systems. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:43:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can get to a lot of places as a conman, but running two of the world’s most valuable companies ain’t one of them. The hate for musk and spacex on this board is mind boggling. He has singlehandedly transformed a communist model of space into capitalism. SpaceX is the very definition of why capitalism is better than all the other systems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seriously. You can get to a lot of places as a conman, but running two of the world’s most valuable companies ain’t one of them. The hate for musk and spacex on this board is mind boggling. He has singlehandedly transformed a communist model of space into capitalism. SpaceX is the very definition of why capitalism is better than all the other systems. There is baffling general fear and hatred of advancing technology, and mankind in general, on this board. Seems like you can't go so far as to say you are going to make a sandwich before half the respondents tell you it isn't possible and that you should quit before you start. Just massive defeatism. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:07:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Batteries my good man. You need those in spaceships and Mars colonies. Every company Musk has started seems to have a component in the colonization of Mars. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How are Tesla EV's going to get us beyond earth? Batteries my good man. You need those in spaceships and Mars colonies. Every company Musk has started seems to have a component in the colonization of Mars. He has said in the past that Tesla existed to fund SpaceX and to encourage renewable energy. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:43:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is baffling general fear and hatred of advancing technology, and mankind in general, on this board. Seems like you can't go so far as to say you are going to make a sandwich before half the respondents tell you it isn't possible and that you should quit before you start. Just massive defeatism. They have watched so many Terminator films that they expect their toaster or their Roomba to try to kill them any day now. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:44:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is true. Also the solar tech is and will be used for ships and early colonization. Until they can set up nuclear on the ground. He has said in the past that Tesla existed to fund SpaceX and to encourage renewable energy. Nuclear fission would be very dangerous on Mars. Keeping reactor cool would be a big problem. No water to cool it with. Very thin atmosphere for cooling too. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:53:28 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only feasible way of populating other planets/systems, is with a compact set of AI surrogates that care/foster our DNA. Once we become established on other planets, maybe we can beam ourselves or consciousness at light speed using relays to ensure integrity. There's no way for humans to populate the galaxy except for AI bots to farm/host the environment, then raise us from seeds when the time is right. You should check out the documentary series: Stargate |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:54:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nuclear fission would be very dangerous on Mars. Keeping reactor cool would be a big problem. No water to cool it with. Very thin atmosphere for cooling too. You can (must) do cooling in vacuum where the only method available is radiative. Mars is comparatively easy. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 3:33:51 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ftl isn't the secret to space travel. To great of a distance and to much stress on a human body. The only viable way for humans to travel thru space will be warping space. The only material, other than dark matter, that we know of that can bend space time is monatomic gold powder. The Nazis figured it out with die glocke. The ancients knew of it but not how to properly use it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 4:02:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ftl isn't the secret to space travel. To great of a distance and to much stress on a human body. The only viable way for humans to travel thru space will be warping space. The only material, other than dark matter, that we know of that can bend space time is monatomic gold powder. The Nazis figured it out with die glocke. The ancients knew of it but not how to properly use it. Spice. He means spice. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:23:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ftl isn't the secret to space travel. To great of a distance and to much stress on a human body. The only viable way for humans to travel thru space will be warping space. The only material, other than dark matter, that we know of that can bend space time is monatomic gold powder. The Nazis figured it out with die glocke. The ancients knew of it but not how to properly use it.  Assuming that he's being a smart ass. If serious, then file "monatomic gold powder" with various other fringe junk science catch words. Nick |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:51:29 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If we need to go to Mars, why not build a large rocket into the side of the Earth and push the entire planet in Mars' direction? No need to develop a special spacecraft with limited capacity and only "the chosen few" get to escape? Additionally, as the whole planet moves further from the Sun, global warming is reduced due to decreased solar radiation and the penguins will live, the ice caps will grow massively, and green peace will be unemployed. That's not how orbital mechanics work. Our orbit from the sun is set by the sun's gravitational field, not some arbitrary distance. If we "joined" mars and earth together, the resulting mass would have a different orbit. Also, even if that were possible, if we "pushed" earth further away from the sun we would all freeze to death. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:59:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, what? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ftl isn't the secret to space travel. To great of a distance and to much stress on a human body. The only viable way for humans to travel thru space will be warping space. The only material, other than dark matter, that we know of that can bend space time is monatomic gold powder. The Nazis figured it out with die glocke. The ancients knew of it but not how to properly use it. Monatomic gold powder. It's a superconductor at room temp. Rediscovered by David Hudson in the 70s. Ancient alien stuff. That's why gold is valuable, it's the secret to space travel. We just don't know how to navigate.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:01:14 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Monatomic gold powder. It's a superconductor at room temp. Rediscovered by David Hudson in the 70s. Ancient alien stuff. That's why gold is valuable, it's the secret to space travel. We just don't know how to navigate Ah, ancient aliens, aka...  The History of the World According to 'Ancient Aliens' It was a religion the whole time. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, ancient aliens, aka...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDq8vQ0t67AIt was a religion the whole time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Monatomic gold powder. It's a superconductor at room temp. Rediscovered by David Hudson in the 70s. Ancient alien stuff. That's why gold is valuable, it's the secret to space travel. We just don't know how to navigate Ah, ancient aliens, aka... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDq8vQ0t67AIt was a religion the whole time. You don't have to believe. It doesn't bother me. PhDs and theoretical physicists believe and the numbers line up. Eta: remember when Moses got pissed about the golden calf and threw into a fire and crushed into a powder that he then made into bread and fed to the Israelites? That was monatomic gold powder aka mana Here's the guy who rediscovered it, explaining how he discovered it and the testing they did  David Hudson | ORMUS Conference Enota 2011 [FULL VIDEO] |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:06:15 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nuclear fission would be very dangerous on Mars. Keeping reactor cool would be a big problem. No water to cool it with. Very thin atmosphere for cooling too. There is water ice on mars. It is a question of mining it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:07:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is baffling general fear and hatred of advancing technology, and mankind in general, on this board. Seems like you can't go so far as to say you are going to make a sandwich before half the respondents tell you it isn't possible and that you should quit before you start. Just massive defeatism. I'm sure plenty can say both positive and negative about Musk....but the fact is, if I had to put my money on the table I wouldn't bet against him. The companies he's built have taken on some massive technological challenges....and for the most part succeeded. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:11:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is water ice on mars. It is a question of mining it. Fortunately there are fission reactor designs that don't need water.  Attached File Attached File Attached FileI think molten salt reactors in these environments could be very useful for many reasons. One being that they function as chemical separators. |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 2:48:08 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is water ice on mars. It is a question of mining it. Yes. But you can't just leave it outside to cool the reactor. |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 2:52:13 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fortunately there are fission reactor designs that don't need water. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-2190373.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-2190375.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/383325/image_jpeg-2190376.JPG I think molten salt reactors in these environments could be very useful for many reasons. One being that they function as chemical separators. The 2nd one you posted uses water for cooling. In not familiar with KRUSTY. How does it dissipate heat? |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 3:32:57 AM EDT
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There are Helium and C02 cooled reactor designs that dont require water as coolant. Not sure what they use to spin the turbines though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_gas_reactor |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 5:18:36 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the single worst Debbie Downer I have ever heard - did you come here to troll this thread with your doom and gloom? Be gone with ye, and let no man remember your name. |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 10:44:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are Helium and C02 cooled reactor designs that dont require water as coolant. Not sure what they use to spin the turbines though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_gas_reactor  Attached FilePeople keep posting that they don't use water to cool the reactor. The water is this heat sink right here. Unless you can find another heat sink that can take away a lot of heat. Mars has a very thin atmosphere. You would have to make huge heat exchanger to use just air there. |
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