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Posted: 3/4/2022 7:46:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2022 7:51:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2022 7:52:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Meh. No fire no care.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:09:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. No fire no care. I'm not sure how this hasn't caught on fire yet. Super pumped to dick around with this tomorrow 
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:10:39 PM EDT
[#4]
I've seen worse......
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:15:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Wanna look at the mystery live knob and tube in my attic?
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:16:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Is the neutral fused?
What am I looking at? |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:20:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wanna look at the mystery live knob and tube in my attic? I've seen a lot of houses on the east side of Houston with two tubes sticking out for a service. (2 wire , 120 v service) Sucks when you have to run a new drop to the house and try not to break off the #10 wire in the tube. |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:24:14 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the neutral fused? What am I looking at? Probably some kind of 240 volt circuit using the white and black for hot legs....... |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:25:52 PM EDT
[#9]
30 amp fuses on 12 ga wire, no big.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:27:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen worse...... Nobody has ever said it bad. But maybe nobody ever saw it |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:27:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 amp fuses on 12 ga wire, no big. Time delay fusing, no less! 
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:27:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Home we’re selling (just the property really..bulldozer coming) is part knob and tube with fabric covered wire. Lots of weird outlets with no ground. Two separate boxes.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:32:07 PM EDT
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If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it?
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:37:01 PM EDT
[#14]
That looks like something you’d find on a farm in my area. Farmers are the world’s worst electricians.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:41:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:45:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Florida?
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:48:08 PM EDT
[#17]
It's a fusible disconnect. What is it for?
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:48:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Totally normal to protect grounded conductors with OCPD...
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:48:49 PM EDT
[#19]
Shit man, that's not really bad for wiring of that vintage. I've seen much, much worse than that.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:50:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the neutral fused? What am I looking at? Yup, the neutral is fused. Single hot leg on the right fuse, Neutral on the left. 4 circuits wire nutted to a single 12ga wire on both legs as well Fun stuff |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 8:55:02 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup, the neutral is fused. Single hot leg on the right fuse, Neutral on the left. 4 circuits wire nutted to a single 12ga wire on both legs as well Fun stuff Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is the neutral fused? What am I looking at? Yup, the neutral is fused. Single hot leg on the right fuse, Neutral on the left. 4 circuits wire nutted to a single 12ga wire on both legs as well Fun stuff You sure that's a neutral? Put a meter across the black and white and see what it reads........ ETA, not saying you're wrong, but don't assume anything on crap llke that...... |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:02:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:07:02 PM EDT
[#23]
You do good work, OP. What's your hourly rate?
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLOl, I guess some scrapper thought the power was off because of no meter!
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do good work, OP. What's your hourly rate? My only involvement with that nightmare is living here. I'm planning on doing something about this... just not sure the level of effort I want to put in yet |
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:13:28 PM EDT
[#26]
cloth cable i remember 1940s lol
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:21:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Replace those fuses with a couple of pennies and call it a day.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:22:12 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My only involvement with that nightmare is living here. I'm planning on doing something about this... just not sure the level of effort I want to put in yet Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You do good work, OP. What's your hourly rate? My only involvement with that nightmare is living here. I'm planning on doing something about this... just not sure the level of effort I want to put in yet Well, the good news is, it's old, been there a long time and hasn't burned you down yet. Keep the load the same as it's been and you're in like flint!
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:24:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Pretty brutal. That white wire looks newer than the rest. The old one previous one probably vaporized before the fuse completely went.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 9:29:21 PM EDT
[#30]
That is absolutely pristine compared to the panel I am cleaning up in my attic. Random wires jumpered to others. Some come from a breaker. Others enter the panel, connect to an existing wire, and then go out another wire. Most are connected with nothing but tape, and folded back into the panel. Luckily I am ripping out almost all of the circuits, so I can get rid of most of the spaghetti.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 10:55:00 PM EDT
[#31]
Thanks OP, this makes my remodel dealing with aluminum wiring and shady previous modifications look like quality work.
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Posted: 3/4/2022 11:00:22 PM EDT
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and yet, nothing happened...weird... Its almost like code just changes to create work and justify wages...
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Posted: 3/5/2022 11:21:50 AM EDT
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Well. I did pull wires and test to verify that the white is neutral. However, I'm now realizing that "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" might be the best course of action here.
There is a single hot and single neutral coming from a sub-panel (also fused) that itself is fed from a 3-wire line from the main panel (2 hot one neutral) Neither are properly grounded from what I can see. That being said, I'd originally had the thought to replace this with a 4-breaker subpanel, even go the extra mile and run a second grounding rod for these guys, but now realizing that even with 4x 15a breakers I'd be allowing up to 60a on the single 12ga lines and.. well... I think its time to break the news to the homeowners that this is going to be WAY more costly than they want it to be. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 12:00:49 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Home we’re selling (just the property really..bulldozer coming) is part knob and tube with fabric covered wire. Lots of weird outlets with no ground. Two separate boxes. Pull out some of those knob and tubes. I had some that I wanted to try out for knife sharpening rods but I lost them. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:01:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Damn, what a mess, and I am not an electrician.
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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:05:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time delay fusing, no less! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 30 amp fuses on 12 ga wire, no big. Time delay fusing, no less! Hey those fuses are expensive. Try to save them where you can. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:11:32 PM EDT
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The first house we bought after we got married had a live 220 line not capped off in the attic......
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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:31:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI bet that individual looked like a stuck match when that party ended |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:29:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:45:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well. I did pull wires and test to verify that the white is neutral. However, I'm now realizing that "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" might be the best course of action here. There is a single hot and single neutral coming from a sub-panel (also fused) that itself is fed from a 3-wire line from the main panel (2 hot one neutral) Neither are properly grounded from what I can see. That being said, I'd originally had the thought to replace this with a 4-breaker subpanel, even go the extra mile and run a second grounding rod for these guys, but now realizing that even with 4x 15a breakers I'd be allowing up to 60a on the single 12ga lines and.. well... I think its time to break the news to the homeowners that this is going to be WAY more costly than they want it to be. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:47:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well. I did pull wires and test to verify that the white is neutral. However, I'm now realizing that "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" might be the best course of action here. There is a single hot and single neutral coming from a sub-panel (also fused) that itself is fed from a 3-wire line from the main panel (2 hot one neutral) Neither are properly grounded from what I can see. That being said, I'd originally had the thought to replace this with a 4-breaker subpanel, even go the extra mile and run a second grounding rod for these guys, but now realizing that even with 4x 15a breakers I'd be allowing up to 60a on the single 12ga lines and.. well... I think its time to break the news to the homeowners that this is going to be WAY more costly than they want it to be. Depending on expected circuit use calculation, it should be fine to have those four lines come out with 15 amp breakers on them and have the feed for that subpanel use the 12 ga with a 20 amp fuse/breaker. I don't know what the book says to calculate, so a 20 amp feed might not allow much room. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:53:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My only involvement with that nightmare is living here. I'm planning on doing something about this... just not sure the level of effort I want to put in yet My advice is to start at the meter and gut the electrical system and come back with current code. I find it to be the cheapest was in the long run. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:54:49 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the neutral fused? What am I looking at? Yes in knob and tube they fused the neutral, do to the fact they ran the wires separately and you just kind of spliced in to the closest one. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 5:55:15 PM EDT
[#44]
It worked though didn't it.
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Posted: 3/5/2022 6:26:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Seen worse, no roasted snek no care.
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Posted: 3/5/2022 6:30:14 PM EDT
[#46]
Brings me back to my childhood and the old farm house I grew up in.
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