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Posted: 2/19/2019 10:11:28 PM EDT
Here in Portland as the years go on the speed limits on any given road keep getting lower and lower.
Freeways are kept at 55mph and neighborhood roads stay at 20-25mph but all the other roads have dropped 5-10mph over the last 5-10 years. So in 20 years every road will be 25mph? Not only that 2 lane roads are turning into 1 lane roads. Is this what all cities do over time or it is just liberal cities like mine who I feel are trying to push tax payers out of their vehicles? |
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Some roads that used to be 55 or 45 are now 10mph lower, but I guess that's development for you.
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They changed the speed limit on a road here from 25 to 35
Small town, and the improvement was much needed. 25 mph is way too slow on a road leading into town. |
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They raised most speeds here. The only place they lowered was a big arterial that was 50mph then went down to 45 and finally 40. People kept wanting a school zone on it but it never happened so they lowered the 50 to 45 and then it goes to 40. It really didn't need a school zone its fairly far from a school. Our interstate between the largest 2 cities is 75mph. They also raised some divided highways from 60 to 65mph.
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A few years back they raised the main road through town from 25 to 30. It was 2 lanes each way with a center turn lane. Shitbag cops would pull people over for doing 2-3 mph over. If you did 23-24 you would get pulled over for holding up traffic.
They loved targeting teenagers. Last I heard the city got their shit pushed in for it a number of years ago and then the speed limit was raised to 30. |
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Here in Portland as the years go on the speed limits on any given road keep getting lower and lower. Freeways are kept at 55mph and neighborhood roads stay at 20-25mph but all the other roads have dropped 5-10mph over the last 5-10 years. So in 20 years every road will be 25mph? Not only that 2 lane roads are turning into 1 lane roads. Is this what all cities do over time or it is just liberal cities like mine who I feel are trying to push tax payers out of their vehicles? View Quote Their idea is more people can move about using less space if people use mass transit or walk. The mass transit part has them giving buses, etc exclusive lanes, meaning less lanes for normal vehicular traffic. They will go so far as to allow buses the ability to control signals to a degree. This allows them to move about quicker, with only "some" added delay to normal cars. The lowering speed thing is to promote the use of areas historically designated as buffer zones for vehicles that errant leave the road way a safe way to do so. Now they want wider sidewalks there so people can walk, so lower the speeds to make things "safer" for them. You really got a feel for who the planners and engineers were in the room. IMO, these things work fine in extremely dense areas where people are okay with and expect someone else to take care of them, problem is they want to push it on those that want to come and go as they please. |
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Isn't that how you stop speeding?
Or is it how you increase revenue by stopping slower-going cars as the limit drops? |
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Here in Portland as the years go on the speed limits on any given road keep getting lower and lower. Freeways are kept at 55mph and neighborhood roads stay at 20-25mph but all the other roads have dropped 5-10mph over the last 5-10 years. So in 20 years every road will be 25mph? Not only that 2 lane roads are turning into 1 lane roads. View Quote |
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For the bike lane, right? It's so stupid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here in Portland as the years go on the speed limits on any given road keep getting lower and lower. Freeways are kept at 55mph and neighborhood roads stay at 20-25mph but all the other roads have dropped 5-10mph over the last 5-10 years. So in 20 years every road will be 25mph? Not only that 2 lane roads are turning into 1 lane roads. |
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The logic i heard from a Portland city official was that reducing vehicle speeds, increases the odds that a vehicle-pedestrian encounters become non-lethal.
What happened to looking both ways? Plus you have to slow regular traffic down so that mass transit pencils out. Portland is ranked 10th in the nation for the worst traffic. |
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I heard on the radio that Portland is considering not allowing permits for single family homes, based on location.
They think this will make homes more affordable for the "less fortunate". All about density. |
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The logic i heard from a Portland city official was that reducing vehicle speeds, increases the odds that a vehicle-pedestrian encounters become non-lethal. What happened to looking both ways? Plus you have to slow regular traffic down so that mass transit pencils out. Portland is ranked 10th in the nation for the worst traffic. View Quote |
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Good, hope they keep lowering it. People act like the public roadways are their private race tracks. If I want to go fast, I go out on my ATV or snowmobile and rip across the fields. That's the place for going fast, not on the roads where my family gets from point A to B.
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I heard on the radio that Portland is considering not allowing permits for single family homes, based on location. They think this will make homes more affordable for the "less fortunate". All about density. View Quote They're also putting a 7% cap on yearly increases on rent and all that's going to do is cause a supply issues and landlords will just now up it 7% every year to protect futures. Of course there is no law being passed to put a cap on property tax increases. This city is so retarded. And the retards just keep voting retards into office. The cycle continues. |
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No, it's been the opposite here. The MSP went through and did a study and went thru and raised a bunch of speed limits.
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One of the most heavily traveled streets in Idaho, Eagle Road has a 55mph limit. Most rural roads are 50mph.
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We got a raise from 55 to 65 near my town. Long desolate stretch in the U.P. of MI. Everyone went 65+ on it anyways.
Years ago I was going 70+mph in a wrecker on that stretch and a county cop passed me and was out of sight within 3 minutes. |
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No but they are narrowing streets when they redo them for multiple reasons like it's cheaper, less road to plow and all the big cities are doing it. Oh and they still allow on street parking on them so you can only get one car down the road at a time.
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Highway 1 in Alexandria, yes. Actually all of NoVa is fucked.
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Good! Portland is accommodating for bicycles and pedestrians.
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Had an 8hr symposium on various forms of mass transit several weeks ago. What you said was never explicitly said there but EVERY SINGLE PICTURE shown of the utopia was a liberal city. Their idea is more people can move about using less space if people use mass transit or walk. The mass transit part has them giving buses, etc exclusive lanes, meaning less lanes for normal vehicular traffic. They will go so far as to allow buses the ability to control signals to a degree. This allows them to move about quicker, with only "some" added delay to normal cars. The lowering speed thing is to promote the use of areas historically designated as buffer zones for vehicles that errant leave the road way a safe way to do so. Now they want wider sidewalks there so people can walk, so lower the speeds to make things "safer" for them. You really got a feel for who the planners and engineers were in the room. IMO, these things work fine in extremely dense areas where people are okay with and expect someone else to take care of them, problem is they want to push it on those that want to come and go as they please. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here in Portland as the years go on the speed limits on any given road keep getting lower and lower. Freeways are kept at 55mph and neighborhood roads stay at 20-25mph but all the other roads have dropped 5-10mph over the last 5-10 years. So in 20 years every road will be 25mph? Not only that 2 lane roads are turning into 1 lane roads. Is this what all cities do over time or it is just liberal cities like mine who I feel are trying to push tax payers out of their vehicles? Their idea is more people can move about using less space if people use mass transit or walk. The mass transit part has them giving buses, etc exclusive lanes, meaning less lanes for normal vehicular traffic. They will go so far as to allow buses the ability to control signals to a degree. This allows them to move about quicker, with only "some" added delay to normal cars. The lowering speed thing is to promote the use of areas historically designated as buffer zones for vehicles that errant leave the road way a safe way to do so. Now they want wider sidewalks there so people can walk, so lower the speeds to make things "safer" for them. You really got a feel for who the planners and engineers were in the room. IMO, these things work fine in extremely dense areas where people are okay with and expect someone else to take care of them, problem is they want to push it on those that want to come and go as they please. It’s a shot show — So glad I got out of there |
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Not where I live.
The highest speed limit in my neck of the woods is 85mph and I regularly drive on the 80mph highway sections where most cars are cruising in the mid 80s to low 90s and its not uncommon to have to hit triple digits in order to pass. On the 85 mph areas you better be comfortable with driving 90mph or you are going to be a potential road hazard. Its crazy to me when I see folks trying to drive 65mph on a 85mph highway and getting passed by people going 95 (or more). |
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In Vegas, a red light isnt even a suggestion to stop, it is just some annoying light that everyone ignores.
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TX. 75 mph in most places in my neck of the woods with a few areas by Austin that have 85 mph.
Traffic flows just fine here, go out of state though and people act like their car will fly off the road and crash if they go 56 in a 55. |
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my areas keeps dropping them because 45MPH means 65 for most drivers. so if they drop it to 30 then 45 will be the norm. blame it on the speeders and the wrecks they cause
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My current city has no speed limit. My city in the US...they've been mostly static. I can think of 1-2 that were raised by 5-10mph, but not lowered.
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city im a cop in has actually upped the speed limit on a few of the roads in town that were too low to begin with. A couple went from 30 to 45.
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No, but they've dumbed down damn near every intersection for our snowbird population. Most lights, you can't even legally turn left on a green light anymore. Infuriating.
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Portland is a C40 city, so, yes.
They do want you out of your car. |
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You would not believe the number of people who complain about speeding.
After a while the limits get dropped to pacify them. In my town 4-way and 3-way stops are common as a way to slow traffic. |
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Wait until they completely eliminate your ability to drive a vehicle in Portland.
No...not kidding. They talk like that. The other angle is revenue. Lower speed limits=$$$ All in the name of public safety of course. |
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A small town did it near me and by the city councils own meetings it was done to increase revenue from tickets. Tyrone Georgia is the speed trap you seek. Now Senioa wanted to not be a speed trap so they made the city ordinance tickets for a tail light or tag light our an over $200 ticket. There are many levels to the traffic revenue game.
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Remember, speed limits are so that the biggest idiot driver should be able to drive safely.
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They need raised all over around me. 2 lane roads are 45, and highway 55.
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