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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:54:45 PM EDT
 Does the US Military hate the SCAR H? If you've ever hated on a gun you don't really know about, hit the subscribe button. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:59:16 PM EDT
[#1]
30 min
 Yes or no? |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 4:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 min Yes or no? Yes - "In a civilian role, where you probably don't have CAS." |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:29:31 PM EDT
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I know the Belgian military does.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:44:58 PM EDT
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Kicks hard, destroys optics, uncontrollable on full auto.
Wish I was issued one, cause 308 |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:45:31 PM EDT
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inb4 Garand Thumb haters show up
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:51:41 PM EDT
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I liked mine.....and it made me look even cooler with my Hawaiian shirt and 5/11 pants at the entrance to the DFAC. I would say it was an excellent gategun /recruiting tool for batt boys looking to trade up.
18Z50 |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:53:38 PM EDT
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Shot my freinds the other day, I'm a fan
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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:57:42 PM EDT
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It’s overly expensive, not really in the DOD pipeline and there is literally nothing wrong with the m16 platform unless there is something that the scar can do that the m16/m4 platform can’t do
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:00:03 PM EDT
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Maybe ! ??
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s overly expensive, not really in the DOD pipeline and there is literally nothing wrong with the m16 platform unless there is something that the scar can do that the m16/m4 platform can’t do From my understanding SCAR is probably best 7.62 but in 5.56 not much purpose to it. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:06:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shot my freinds the other day, I'm a fan That's not a good way to keep friends. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:09:20 PM EDT
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I have both. I prefer the 16.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:13:04 PM EDT
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In before the poors and pussies?
Eh nope a few got in already. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:14:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:16:31 PM EDT
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Having owned both (16 and 17), I won’t say I hate them but I do think they’re overrated. Also, based on the customer service a good friend received from FN when his 16 was having feeding issues, if I still owned them I would pray nothing happened to them.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shot my freinds the other day, I'm a fan Frenz don't choot frenz. Not a fan of the rifle |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 9:30:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kicks hard, destroys optics, uncontrollable on full auto. Wish I was issued one, cause 308 Kicks hard? LOL |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:09:19 PM EDT
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The SCAR "kicks hard"...that's called a tell in poker.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:11:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kicks hard, destroys optics, uncontrollable on full auto. Wish I was issued one, cause 308 So, what you're saying is that you've never shot one? |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:12:08 PM EDT
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The SCAR doesn't recoil hard. This being said, it would suck on full auto.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:12:53 PM EDT
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My BIL was issued one and said he really liked it. Even got one after he got out.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:15:30 PM EDT
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Shot one full auto at Battlefield Vegas. It was fun
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:17:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s overly expensive, not really in the DOD pipeline and there is literally nothing wrong with the m16 platform unless there is something that the scar can do that the m16/m4 platform can’t do It’ll shoot .308’s.... |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:22:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having owned both (16 and 17), I won’t say I hate them but I do think they’re overrated. Also, based on the customer service a good friend received from FN when his 16 was having feeding issues, if I still owned them I would pray nothing happened to them. I currently own both and these are my thoughts exactly. The gun may have been cutting edge in 2009, but its ergonomics, some aspects of its design and its price are not competitive in today’s market. The gun is actually more deserving of an overhaul than what the Bren 2 did for the 805. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:30:30 PM EDT
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Do you really put that much faith in an organization that frowns upon putting your hands in your pockets?
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:31:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really put that much faith in an organization that frowns upon putting your hands in your pockets? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/50/ba/57/50ba57a94dc08f2f58bf312ba827a138.jpg The guys carrying MK17's don't care about hands in pockets. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:53:25 PM EDT
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Does the US Military hate the SCAR H? 2. USASOC eventually responded to USSOCOM, "We don't want it." The SOCOM money managers then told Naval Special Warfare Command that if they wanted it, SOCOM would buy them using the SEALs' share of SOCOM's budget, or the SEALs could go back to parent service (Navy) to buy them using Navy Money. They'll probably be traded around until no longer economically sustainable-repairable, then be retired. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:56:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLMT MARS-H master race |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:58:13 PM EDT
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My cousin was with 10th group and they hate the scar L and the scar H. They just flat out refused to carry them. They have them available, but they use what they want. His team also did a combat evaluation of the HKXM8. They hated those too.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 10:59:31 PM EDT
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10 years ago a Navy SEAL told me he “hates that gun with a f’in passion”.
He explained that it was guaranteed to jam at the wrong time and got a good friend of his killed when doing an raid. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:01:40 PM EDT
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Scar 17 are very nice. Shoot soft for a 7.62 (much softer than a 308 based AR). I remember when they were $2,100 not that long ago.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guys carrying MK17's don't care about hands in pockets. True, but the procurement system that developed/ordered it is as bad if not worse than Big Army's last few abortions. Pepperidge Farm remembers when multicam was cool and both conventional and SOF have repeatedly overpaid for T&E samples to send to IRQ or AFG for field testing. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:09:04 PM EDT
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Quoted:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELf7xtiEmDkIf you've ever hated on a gun you don't really know about, hit the subscribe button. Every Joe in the .mil loves the weapon that the other 99% of the .mil doesn't have. Holy shit, if you told a IBCT they would be given half dozen 50 Beowulf uppers and only 50 rounds of ammo for all of them, there would be fistfights and blowjobs over the fucking things. The .mil, on the other hand, loves what the fedgov will buy and and provide repair parts and training ammo for. Institutionally they could give fuck-all bout small arms. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:12:31 PM EDT
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That compensator on the commercially sold version is doing a lot for the recoil. The military version has a flash hider.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:18:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shot my freinds the other day, I'm a fan Oh wow, are they ok? Why would you do that? |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:19:51 PM EDT
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Good gun but not the best gun for every situation........
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:21:23 PM EDT
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LOL, ahhh yes, the answer to the question nobody asked......the SCAR
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:27:05 PM EDT
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I rarely watch his videos but this one caught my eye. 25 minutes later I felt the question still hadn’t been answered.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, ahhh yes, the answer to the question nobody asked......the SCAR The answer that SOCOM asked for. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:50:03 PM EDT
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Civilian side, FN's CS sucks, really, really sucks. It's a cool rifle, the SR25 ACC/APC is a better rifle.
Quote HistoryQuoted: That compensator on the commercially sold version is doing a lot for the recoil. The military version has a flash hider. Very, very true. Even on the 16S/Light there is a noticeable difference. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kicks hard, destroys optics, uncontrollable on full auto. Wish I was issued one, cause 308 “kicks” hard?!?! WTF?  |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:03:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Civilian side, FN's CS sucks, really, really sucks. . Thats an understatement. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:15:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shot my freinds the other day, I'm a fan That's pretty mean of you. Why would you shoot your friends? |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:31:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shot my freinds the other day, I'm a fan Damn, are they ok?? |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:46:22 AM EDT
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Here we go again...GD asshats making obtuse statements about a rifle that most can’t afford or haven’t shot. “But my SEAL buddy said it sucks!” How long ago was this? “Durrr, 10 years ago...”
The video is spot on. The SCAR shines for engagements beyond 200yds but only if you keep the longer barrel. Using a 762 with a 13” barrel is retardation, and negates almost every positive that comes from a 16” 762 select-fire rifle. It’s one of, if not the softest shooting, magazine-fed 762 rifles on the market. Mag capacity is limited but duh, you’re carrying 762. So no, the SCAR doesn’t shine in all aspects, under all conditions but it CAN do a lot of things. Those who have SCARs know three things, the stock trigger blows, an extended forend is needed and don’t buy a cheap optic. GBPSE. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:48:44 AM EDT
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We liked them quite a bit. They were reliable and accurate enough. Most commonly configured with the short barrel.
Our SCAR 16's sat in the armory and everyone hated them. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:53:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The SCAR "kicks hard"...that's called a tell in poker. Welcome to ARFCOM. You’ll fit in just fine. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:55:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We liked them quite a bit. They were reliable and accurate enough. Most commonly configured with the short barrel. Our SCAR 16's sat in the armory and everyone hated them. That’s because the SCAR in 556 is absolutely pointless |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:57:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those who have SCARs know three things, the stock trigger blows, an extended forend is needed and don’t buy a cheap optic. GBPSE. And that's the problem, for a gun at that price point it needs to do better. You shouldn't have to throw it through a PMM/KDG catalog just to make it as ergonomic as a high end AR. Even then it doesn't solve certain inherent issues (reciprocating CH limits where you can place your hand/accessories, on a SBR that fat handguard is difficult to work with remote switches for lights/lasers) It's not a bad gun, but a very overrated one. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 1:08:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a bad gun, but a very overrated one. It’s overrated if you try and make it a CQB rifle. Can you build a similar shooting AR-10 rifle with these characteristics for the same price as a decently equipped SCAR? Folding stock Extremely soft recoil 16” Chrome barrel Lightweight Geisselle trigger KDG/extended forend If so, which rifles out there match these exact characteristics for roughly $3800 |
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