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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:30:06 PM EDT
Almost every wood pencil I buy doesn't sharpen right, lead falls out (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r)
Mechanical pencils suck. I am extremely lucky if I can write a whole sentence without the lead (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) breaking apart. I'm angry.... very very angry. Grrrrrrrr. (see?) 
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:33:34 PM EDT
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Get a lead holder instead. I do a lot of drawing and these hold up forever- they have a sharpener in the end cap too - lots of leads available for a decent price.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:37:14 PM EDT
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I do like the Staedler lead holders. Especially if I'm out in the garage needing to cut some lumber or something.
My son had a request for some black pencils that seemed decent. I forgot what they were. But all thed stuff you buy at the store now a days is trash. Sharpen it and the lead breaks because there's like zero glue holding the pencil together. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:40:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Almost every wood pencil I buy doesn't sharpen right, lead falls out (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) Mechanical pencils suck. I am extremely lucky if I can write a whole sentence without the lead (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) breaking apart. I'm angry.... very very angry. Grrrrrrrr. (see?) For general writing, you want a Dixon Ticonderoga. They’re the good pencils you remember, and easy to find. Walmart has them. For drawing - or if you just want the best possible wooden pencil - you want a Blackwing. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:42:25 PM EDT
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Ticonderoga
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:44:08 PM EDT
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Maybe one of these is a good pencil?
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:44:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do like the Staedler lead holders. Especially if I'm out in the garage needing to cut some lumber or something. My son had a request for some black pencils that seemed decent. I forgot what they were. But all thed stuff you buy at the store now a days is trash. Sharpen it and the lead breaks because there's like zero glue holding the pencil together. There’s a line of the Derwent pencils that are black with a red stripe (I think ) that are pretty nice, they come in a tin too with the whole range of pencils 6B to 6H |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:45:16 PM EDT
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Rotring makes some pretty good mechanical pencils.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:46:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Almost every wood pencil I buy doesn't sharpen right, lead falls out (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) Mechanical pencils suck. I am extremely lucky if I can write a whole sentence without the lead (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) breaking apart. I'm angry.... very very angry. Grrrrrrrr. (see?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaGxPwgR-Nw |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:47:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s a line of the Derwent pencils that are black with a red stripe (I think ) that are pretty nice, they come in a tin too with the whole range of pencils 6B to 6H That reminds me - OP, if you’re having issues with the lead for mechanical pencils breaking, there are two things you can do: get a thicker lead (0.7mm instead of 0.5mm; maybe even move up to 0.9mm or larger), or use a softer lead. Most lead is going to be “#2” (HB). Order some 2B lead in the right size and see how that does for you. It’ll write darker and won’t break as easily. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:49:27 PM EDT
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Pentel twist erase click 0.9mm. I bear down way harder than I should and don't have any issues with this one. Plus it has like a two inch eraser for all the fucking up I do.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:50:14 PM EDT
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Dixon Tigonderoga. Duh.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:51:18 PM EDT
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What are you wanting it for, Mr. Wick?
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:53:18 PM EDT
[#13]
If you’re breaking mechanical pencil lead that often, there’s a problem with how you write.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:55:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Almost every wood pencil I buy doesn't sharpen right, lead falls out (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) Mechanical pencils suck. I am extremely lucky if I can write a whole sentence without the lead (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) breaking apart. I'm angry.... very very angry. Grrrrrrrr. (see?) Don't buy the pencils with skinny lead. Pentel 0.9mm (I used these for years as a finish carpenter and I still do for home projects.) Or Graphgear 1000 0.9mm |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:58:21 PM EDT
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I immediately thought of pencil fighting!
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:58:24 PM EDT
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Blackwing 602. The Patek-Phillipe of pencils.
https://blackwing602.com/products/blackwing-602-set-of-12 I have a friend who has nearly everything he has ever wanted, and could probably afford to buy several small countries if he so desired. I was absolutely stumped for a birthday present, so I got him a box of these. On the birthday card I wrote, " I can't buy you a Beech Staggerwing or a classic Ferrari, but I did get you something which has a reputation for being the finest in the world: these Blackwing pencils". He said it was one of the most thoughtful gifts he'd received - and they really were kickass pencils for either writing or drawing. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:59:00 PM EDT
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I like the feel of a pencil in my hand, I use them exclusively making notes for myself.
Staedtler makes a nice conventional #2 lead (graphite) pencil. Several actually. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:59:43 PM EDT
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Blackwing 602. The Patek-Phillipe of pencils.
https://blackwing602.com/products/blackwing-602-set-of-12 I have a friend who has nearly everything he has ever wanted, and could probably afford to buy several small countries if he so desired. I was absolutely stumped for a birthday present, so I got him a box of these. On the birthday card I wrote, " I can't buy you a Beech Staggerwing or a classic Ferrari, but I did get you something which has a reputation for being the finest in the world: these Blackwing pencils". He said it was one of the most thoughtful gifts he'd received - and they really were kickass pencils for either writing or drawing. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:04:52 PM EDT
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WTF - had an uncommanded double-tap, and the edit function refuses to allow an edit or delete. Sorry 'bout that.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For general writing, you want a Dixon Ticonderoga. They're the good pencils you remember, and easy to find. Walmart has them. For drawing - or if you just want the best possible wooden pencil - you want a Blackwing. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:14:18 PM EDT
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Skillcraft No.3 Med. Hard. Have to find them on Ebay.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ticonderoga #2 is not the same as it was a number of years ago. Not made in the same country, out of the same wood, and not made the same way. Used to buy them by the case for the office, shop and field. Then one day they weren't the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For general writing, you want a Dixon Ticonderoga. They're the good pencils you remember, and easy to find. Walmart has them. For drawing - or if you just want the best possible wooden pencil - you want a Blackwing. I get that, but I figure if he’s asking for advice on pencils, he never experienced the old ones. The new Ticonderogas are still as good or better than the typical pencils were years ago. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:22:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ticonderoga This, however you spell it. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:23:53 PM EDT
[#24]
Zebra M.301. Stainless steel body, very durable.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:25:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:26:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Ticonderoga No. 2
Pentel P205 |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that, but I figure if he's asking for advice on pencils, he never experienced the old ones. The new Ticonderogas are still as good or better than the typical pencils were years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For general writing, you want a Dixon Ticonderoga. They're the good pencils you remember, and easy to find. Walmart has them. For drawing - or if you just want the best possible wooden pencil - you want a Blackwing. I get that, but I figure if he's asking for advice on pencils, he never experienced the old ones. The new Ticonderogas are still as good or better than the typical pencils were years ago. Somehow I have to believe California is behind this mess. We MUST have banned something.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:27:09 PM EDT
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Go to jet pens and use their guides and reviews
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:28:55 PM EDT
[#29]
 Attached FileSometimes it's not the pencil Every home should have one of these bolted to a wall somewhere. I keep mine in the garage. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:31:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:34:36 PM EDT
[#31]
John Wick had a good one.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:36:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:36:42 PM EDT
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Best I have found, use them daily.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:36:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I immediately thought of pencil fighting! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525420/Screenshot_20220527-125621_Chrome-2398795.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/525420/Screenshot_20220527-125627_Chrome-2398796.jpg So that's what you kids today call it..... |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:45:26 PM EDT
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I'm still pissed that Autopoint went out of business.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:54:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Blackwing pencils.
You’re welcome. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:02:13 PM EDT
[#37]
I really enjoy using a Rotring 600 or a Staedtler 925, both with some 2B .35mm leads. You don’t have to press so hard with the 2B, and after a while you get used to using less pressure.
That doesn’t really help you, though, unless you’re willing to give mechs another try, lol. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blackwing 602. The Patek-Phillipe of pencils. https://blackwing602.com/products/blackwing-602-set-of-12 I have a friend who has nearly everything he has ever wanted, and could probably afford to buy several small countries if he so desired. I was absolutely stumped for a birthday present, so I got him a box of these. On the birthday card I wrote, " I can't buy you a Beech Staggerwing or a classic Ferrari, but I did get you something which has a reputation for being the finest in the world: these Blackwing pencils". He said it was one of the most thoughtful gifts he'd received - and they really were kickass pencils for either writing or drawing. When I clicked on this thread, I knew it was going to cost me money. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 4:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For general writing, you want a Dixon Ticonderoga. They’re the good pencils you remember, and easy to find. Walmart has them. For drawing - or if you just want the best possible wooden pencil - you want a Blackwing. +1 for DT and Blackwing both. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 4:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ticonderoga |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:06:57 PM EDT
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Berol Torquoise (wood pencil)
Likely only find them in art supply or surveying supply and blueprint stores. Yeah I know nobody does blueprint anymore but I am talking a outfit that does large scale copy/printing for construction plans. Just writing on paper you will want # 2H or #2.5H. A carpenter type or high pressure type of guy will want #3H or #4H. Yeah , mechanical pencils with small diameter leads are snap-o-matics for the most part but the same art,survey,drafting supply will have lead holders that are designed for larger diameter leads . You will also need a special sharpener . the leads come in various hardness grades and colors also .The sharpener really only touches up the point of the lead so the 6" long lead will last a long time |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:12:09 PM EDT
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I am a Pentel .5, .7 mm person, been using these for years, as far back as 1976. I would guesstamate I have over 50 mechanical pencils in my office....yeah I know it is crazy
I have the clear plastic Pilot mechanical pencil, I used to take my last exam when I graduated from engineering school....I walked out of the exam, put the pencil in my pocket and then into a safe spot when I got home and I have not used it since. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:23:44 PM EDT
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What you seek can be found in the land of the rising sun.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:42:11 PM EDT
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Mirado black warrior
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:43:00 PM EDT
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Ticonderoga
Costco sells huge packs of them for teachers who are suckers and give out free pencils. Kharn |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you wanting it for, Mr. Wick? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 5:54:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ticonderoga Ticonderoga isn't what they used to be. 1 out of 10 will have the graphite off center and no amount of sharpening will make it a usable pencil. Granted they are better than the cheap office brands, but don't expect to relive your childhood with them. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:04:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: Almost every wood pencil I buy doesn't sharpen right, lead falls out (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) Mechanical pencils suck. I am extremely lucky if I can write a whole sentence without the lead (yeah I know, it's graphite. thats what we always called it. Gen X'r) breaking apart. I'm angry.... very very angry. Grrrrrrrr. (see?) That's where you're wrong. This pencil is almost 20 years old.  Attached FileI use it for writing, obviously, but it's good for marking wood cuts, hanging pictures, etc. I don't know if the internals have changed much, but you can still buy the same pencil today. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ticonderoga |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 6:08:32 PM EDT
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https://smile.amazon.com/Ticonderoga-Wood-Cased-Graphite-Pencils-13872/dp/B00125Q75Y
/thread Use them in my classes for my students. Never had an issue … ever. |
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