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And then when people woke up to methyl mercury and ethyl mercury (literally 1000xs as toxic as the most neuro toxic element, mercury....

They switched to aluminum, which turned out to be worse than the mercury, but didn't scare people as much, cause who is afraid of aluminum?

Make everyone trarded and distract them adequately, put birth control hormones and Prozac and fluoride in the drinking water... then they can do whatever they want.

My father badgered me into getting my first daughter vaccinated for dtap (or tdap, I forget which), I agreed to it just for the tetanus part. Never again. If they want to get shots when they grow up that's their choice. I also don't believe on male or female circumcision. Parents shouldn't have the right to have elective medical procedures done on their kids.

No growth hormones, no sex changes, no genital mutilation, no jabs that can kill them, no plastic surgery.

Wrong question OP...

The question is not why some of us are OK with actual, proven vaccines but turn up our noses at the Pfizer/Mod/J&J injection..

The question is why do you need to get validation from a gun forum for choosing to inject yourself with something that millions of others are giving the middle finger too?

My father got the jab, 6 months later, dead. When he got it I was still afraid of the wuflu myself, but had already become anti-vax, otherwise I would have maybe gotten it myself. thank God I didn't. I also lost about 5 weeks finding a new place to work, earlier this year, cause an employer mandated it for everyone no mater what and no exceptions.

I found a new job. By that time I was very aware of the dangers, but we are learning more about the side effects every day.

I just learned about it destroying your immune system yesterday.

I'm fine with vaccines. In general I think they are good and have prevented a lot of illness, although there is always some risk.

The covid mrna injections are not vaccines. They do not prevent catching or spreading covid and I believe the risks are vastly understated while the benefits are vastly overstated. But if you want it, get it.

I'm violently opposed to mandatory vaccines. People should be able to make their own medical decisions even if I disagree with them.

I've never trusted .gov and still don't.   We have no clue what the outcome will be,  I don't think it will be good.   FJB mocking freedom tells me they have big plans for those who bend the knee.

I still “balk” at antivaxxers, but I haven’t gotten the shot.

It’s just a standard risk/reward calculation.  I’m fortunate to be at low risk from Covid, so the shot doesn’t make sense for me personally.  

Everyone’s risk/reward calculation will be slightly different.  Some will be at even less risk than me, and others more.

Medical decisions should be made with logic, not emotion.

I haven't seen that theory (not saying it's true or not, just that I haven't seen it), but HIV meds are thousands of dollars a month/per person.

Nope. Took the vax in January/February and I’m fine…so are 170 million other people.

I still mostly balk at "anti-vaxxers".

Most vaccines actually are safe and effective.


The Chinavirus shots are not "vaccines" by the traditional meaning, they are not very effective, and their long term safety is unproven.

I don't think any of them should be mandatory.

I'm on the other side, I'm one of those evil anti vaxxers that got much amusement from the pro vax peoples paper thin arguments.  I'm actually not blanket anti vax, but I think in the last 20 to 30 years they've been wildly over utilized with dubious statistics covering their efficacy and safety.  Sound familiar?  And the profit motive can not be dismissed either.  

Reading all the fools that dismissed people who witnessed significant changes in their children after getting a shot pissed me off but  I don't see that many of them posting that st anymore.  Maybe some are dead or fked up courtesy of mrna?  That would be some wild karma, Alex Baldwin style.

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That's not true. Some of them are made from the Stem Cells of a Black Woman that died of Cancer.

I doubt that there will be any autism from the Vaxxes. People are dying too fast.

Comrade, that bro in your avatar looks really tough!

Really? Interesting.

These shots are not “vaccinations” so the question is not valid.

I did not have a strong opinion about anti vaxxers before. Good friend of mine has kids with autism and his opinion is that childhood vaccinations may have contributed to it. Very smart guy, very high IQ. He talks like he’s not certain they caused it but is suspicious. I take things he says seriously.

If others decide they don’t want vaccines that’s no problem for me. I don’t make medical choices for them, they don’t make medical choices for me. It doesn’t bother me that other people evaluate that they don’t want certain medical treatments.

I myself was never antivax and I’m still not. I couldn’t even tell you how many vaccinations I’ve had over the years, the only one I haven’t gotten is flu, mostly because I was always told every year that the supply runs out and I knew there were older and sicker folks who needed it more than I did, so I left “my” flu vaccine available for someone else who actually might need it to live.

I had decided last year to wait a couple of years to see what long term effects of mRNA vaccination is, if any, before deciding to take it. Now that the Potato is saying take it or else, I’m saying screw him and all other Potatos who think they get to make my medical decisions for me.

More than once, the difference between being crazy and being right was the timing

I’m not going to say, personally, I’ll never get another vaccine.

However the people pushing this one in particular are proven liars that have admitted to lying. Therefore their words are presumed to be lies without powerful evidence to the contrary. The problem with this is I’m not a scientist with a lab at my disposal. All the available evidence comes from the same admitted liars.

Since they can be safely presumed to have either 1) malicious intent or 2) interests that don’t align with my own, then I have to “consider the source” when making decisions.

In a class on logic this would be labeled a logical fallacy most likely (appeal to authority). That’s fine for a college classroom. Out here in Realworldistan, considering the source is a highly effective, if imperfect, way of evaluating information in an environment filled with bad information.