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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:37:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Lot's of bad decisions were made in 2020. This just confirms it.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:38:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about the Barry Sorento? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 544,797 Kias have been sold in 2020, the highest ever recorded since coming to the states in the mid 90s. We have a Industry leading 3.1% YOY sales growth. Total competitive group share is now 6.9% 75k Tellurides sold 81k Sportages just crazy just fucking crazy What about the Barry Sorento? My 2015 has been rock solid.......112000. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:04:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lot's of bad decisions were made in 2020. This just confirms it. Te He |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:14:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People don't think stimulus checks be like they are but they do. They also give credit to buyers that other dealerships won't. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:17:54 AM EDT
[#5]
I can attest that the Telluride is kicking the Palisade's ass in sales, at least around here.
No stock at the Kia dealership and a 10K markup. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:24:36 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can attest that the Telluride is kicking the Palisade's ass in sales, at least around here. No stock at the Kia dealership and a 10K markup. We sell them at Msrp, we have people come from New York and shit because of that |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:25:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They also give credit to buyers that other dealerships won't. If you don't have at least a 650 your fucked here |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:31:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: 544,797 Kias have been sold in 2020, the highest ever recorded since coming to the states in the mid 90s. We have a Industry leading 3.1% YOY sales growth. Total competitive group share is now 6.9% 75k Tellurides sold 81k Sportages just crazy just fucking crazy So, when is the KLTV truck coming over? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:37:15 AM EDT
[#9]
KIA is the PSA of cars.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:40:04 AM EDT
[#10]
Long live the Kia Soul.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:41:09 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm sure I'll get hate but I gave a good bit of guns + ammo to an auction house to sell, as they're getting obscene prices.
Might roll that $$$$ into a Kia :D LOVE my Forte, eyeing a Forte Gt or something similar. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:47:07 AM EDT
[#12]
If the K5 had been released before the new Sonata Id probably be driving that instead .
I like the K5 but still like my Sonatas looks more so happy how that worked out anyways. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, when is the KLTV truck coming over? Never, it can't meet our regs No NA diesel engine can that I can think of |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:11:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Just put together a nice Telluride on the website, wasn't hard to hit 46K quickly. Let's add 9% sales tax so we're at 50K. at 0% financing, if available, that's a monthly payment of 833.00
That's my mortgage payment. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:20:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never, it can't meet our regs No NA diesel engine can that I can think of Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, when is the KLTV truck coming over? Never, it can't meet our regs No NA diesel engine can that I can think of I wonder if Volkswagen could have done it with the right ECU 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:26:20 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if Volkswagen could have done it with the right ECU Lol no Diesel is simply not as clean as gas |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:26:55 AM EDT
[#17]
I guess they didn't factor in the 300,000 engines they have to recall yet.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:29:46 AM EDT
[#18]
We bought a 2020 Optima back in July. Mechanically, it's been rock solid. There were a couple little electronic gremlins, but the dealership got those taken care of for us (fuel level sender, blindspots warning sensor). Overall, my wife and I both love the car.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:37:44 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My next car is going to be a Telluride. I would do some research on them first. https://www.kiatelluride.org/threads/all-known-2020-kia-telluride-issues-and-complaints.396/#:~:text=All%20Known%202020%20Kia%20Telluride%20Issues%20and%20Complaints,Water%20leaking%20through%20door%20sills.%20More%20items...%20 |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:42:11 AM EDT
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Quote History1) I'm not in the market yet 2) I'm sure most new cars have a lot of the same issues. That's just one guy collecting anecdotal evidence - it's not an indicator of overall reliability. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:47:00 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) I'm not in the market yet 2) I'm sure most new cars have a lot of the same issues. That's just one guy collecting anecdotal evidence - it's not an indicator of overall reliability. Most of those issues were on 30k and lower vins anyway We were brutally unprepared for the Telluride success, Key only estimated that they would sell about 25000 of them in the 1st year, Instead we sold 60k It was so bad that we ran out of parts to even build them and had to have a factory in Korea help make parts We retooled a fair portion of the Georgia plant just to make telluride parts but still we are playing catch up I don't know when we will actually be able to catch up availability is still Limited, It's been so limited for so long that is actually damaged our reputation. It was a case of being too conservative With sales estimationsThat it's fucked us over |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:50:36 AM EDT
[#22]
It's crazy how popular the Telluride is, yet I barely see any on the roads (yet).
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:53:42 AM EDT
[#23]
I see tellurides EVERYWHERE. The interior quality seemed to be great for a kia.
No idea about mechanical quality. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:55:02 AM EDT
[#24]
@ LittlePony how long until the engine replacements ? I know 15 and 16 has has some problems with self destructing engines
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:59:48 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @ LittlePony how long until the engine replacements ? I know 15 and 16 has has some problems with self destructing engines Theta 2 right? We can do them in under a day most of the time is spent waiting for engine shipping @magilla:[/b |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:06:39 PM EDT
[#26]
This
Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes sense. Shaky economy means that people are looking at more budget options. Quote HistoryQuoted: Makes sense. Shaky economy means that people are looking at more budget options. and this Quoted: People don't think stimulus checks be like they are but they do. The local dealer is advertising very aggressively and looking at the absolute junk in their trade in/going to the auction lot It's apparent that they really will get anyone in a new Kia regardless of credit score. This feels exactly like 2008 right before the bottom dropped out of the market. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:12:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Theta 2 right? We can do them in under a day most of the time is spent waiting for engine shipping @magilla:[/b Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @ LittlePony how long until the engine replacements ? I know 15 and 16 has has some problems with self destructing engines Theta 2 right? We can do them in under a day most of the time is spent waiting for engine shipping @magilla:[/b yes I remember hearing from a local kia mech that its not limited to just the 2 though. he tells me he can drop the cradle and have it replaced fairly quick but getting the new motor is the holdup. also what year did they switch from the belt to chain drive ? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:14:44 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yes I remember hearing from a local kia mech that its not limited to just the 2 though. he tells me he can drop the cradle and have it replaced fairly quick but getting the new motor is the holdup. also what year did they switch from the belt to chain drive ? Belt to chain? Forever ago Last belt engine was in 2011, most were gone by 2009 |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:15:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: North America vs US numbers? Quote HistoryThe north america number in OP is less than the US number in the chart, but its close, and not a record year |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:17:27 PM EDT
[#30]
LittlePony: Tell Kia to quit requiring AWD with the Nightfall black package - it's a bunch of BS and I don't need AWD. I expect your clout with Kia executives to carry some weight.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:21:19 PM EDT
[#31]
There are plenty of used ones on the lots sitting around here.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/2020/Kia/Telluride |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:25:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The north america number in OP is less than the US number in the chart, but its close, and not a record year Quote HistoryQuoted: The north america number in OP is less than the US number in the chart, but its close, and not a record year Last year does not make sense we never sold over 600k in the States, last big year was 2012 with like 560k Must be export units We do alot of that |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:31:13 PM EDT
[#33]
I would think the Telluride alone would have made 2020 their most profitable year, and deservedly so. Genesis is shaping up as well.
Those fucking South Koreans work themselves to death, and it's showing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:31:58 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would think the Telluride alone would have made 2020 their most profitable year, and deservedly so. Genesis is shaping up as well. Those fucking South Koreans work themselves to death, and it's showing. 12 hour days, 6 days a week. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:44:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's crazy how popular the Telluride is, yet I barely see any on the roads (yet). My wife loves hers.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:58:22 PM EDT
[#36]
I bought the wife a forte
Best warranty in the business |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:14:01 PM EDT
[#37]
What about the class action that cost them billions?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:46:11 PM EDT
[#38]
The dealership experience has been a shit show for me. Been to 3 dealerships.
Dealership 1: Only 2 sales guys working. 3 sales mangers hiding the the glass office. I asked if one of them could give me a test drive and was told no. Couldn't even get them to unlock a car for me. Left after waiting 30 minutes. They had a few Tellurides that were marked up between 5 to 10K over MSRP. They even had a new Sorento with a mark up. Dealership 2: Guy was higher than shit....reeked of pot. Wanted to test drive the Sorento EX or SX and Telluride. No Tellurides and all the Sorentos were the LX or S model. One of the sales managers who was off took home the only SX Sorento they had. Dealership 3: We have to run your credit before you can test drive a Telluride. Told them no need, I am paying cash. They still wanted to run it. After going back in forth about this for a few minutes they tell me they don't have any in stock. They do however have the Sorento EX and SX in stock. They guy ask me what color I want to drive. Told him it does not matter, just make sure it has the 2.5L Turbo motor. He comes back with a LX which does not have the turbo. He comes back again with S, which again does not have a turbo. He comes back a third time with a Sportage. I finally asked him if he was fucking with me. Finally got to test drive an EX Sorento. They are nice. The wife wants one or a Telluride if we can ever test drive one of those. Wont be buying from this dealership. Kia placed 30th out of 32 for dealership experience.....now I know why. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:50:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What about the class action that cost them billions? At this rate that it will be all paid in 5 years |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:57:18 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They also give credit to buyers that other dealerships won't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People don't think stimulus checks be like they are but they do. They also give credit to buyers that other dealerships won't. Bad credit isn't an issue when you use a GPS device to track the vehicle for repossession a few months down the line. I'm looking and laughing at you CarProsKia. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:57:18 PM EDT
[#41]
I have seen a few Telurides out and about.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:29:09 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would think the Telluride alone would have made 2020 their most profitable year, and deservedly so. Genesis is shaping up as well. Those fucking South Koreans work themselves to death, and it's showing. They're made in Georgia. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:04:22 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its so Yellow!~   Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48713071978_43446e9bd4_z.jpg Bitches. KIA: Best Korea. Chris Its so Yellow!~ But in the shade, it’s more French’s mustard! It magically changes color! Chris |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:20:45 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But in the shade, it’s more French’s mustard! It magically changes color! Chris I wuv mustard!
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:28:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Kia is the new Honda, has been for years actre.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:38:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:49:20 PM EDT
[#47]
My wife loves her 2019 Sportage. The EPA specs says 30 mpg on the highway, but I have gotten 32 mpg. Decent power also, it is like a sports car compared to my under powered Jeep
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