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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:01:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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"A Delta Air Lines flight that departed from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City was forced to make an emergency return to the airport Friday morning after an emergency slide came apart from the Boeing 767, the airline said. A search for the slide was ongoing. "After the aircraft had safely landed and proceeded to a gate, it was observed that the emergency slide had separated from the aircraft," a Delta spokesperson said in a statement to NPR Friday afternoon. In a statement, the Federal Aviation Administration said Delta Flight 520 "returned safely to John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York around 8:35 a.m. local time on Friday, April 26, after the crew reported a vibration. The FAA will investigate.""  Boeing 767 slide deployment system test - US Airways |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:03:42 PM EDT
[#1]
Things fall off Boeings all the time, no big deal.
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USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:04:34 PM EDT
[#2]
Can a slide withstand a fatty?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:04:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Scoobysmak]
[#3]
I am going more with a maintenance issue or FAA letting it fly passengers that long than being Boeings fault.....based on the following in OP's link:
"An aircraft is generally operable for an average of 30 years before being decommissioned, according to Flexport, a global logistics workflow company. The aircraft involved in Friday's incident is around 34 years old, and its expiration date was previously May 2028, according to the Federal Aviation Administration." |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:07:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Nothing was mentioned about any doors opening. How does the slide detach if any doors weren't opened?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:15:31 PM EDT
[#5]
See? yet another positive of living in the flight path.
Wish for a giant inflatable thing, get one air delivered! (toddles off to craigslist to see if it is for sale yet) |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:21:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mouthpiece]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Nothing was mentioned about any doors opening. How does the slide detach if any doors weren't opened? Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By high_order1: See? yet another positive of living in the flight path. Wish for a giant inflatable thing, get one air delivered! (toddles off to craigslist to see if it is for sale yet) Fuck yes. I’d love to have one of those things. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:23:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Ya know what’s going to slide? The Boeing stock price.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SamBoga: Things fall off Boeings all the time, no big deal. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:26:17 PM EDT
[#10]
The 767 is a tough fucking aircraft.
Just one of those things. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 6:32:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mouthpiece: Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. The slide didn't work on the left side in this crash as you can see the ladder, all three went out the right side of the aircraft where the slide did deploy: No clue what went wrong on that 757, of course no slides over the wings as it is not needed. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:05:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Kind of wondering how this happened…?
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:34:38 PM EDT
[#13]
No matter what happened, to that 33 year old plane, Boeing is getting another bitch slap.
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:50:01 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:00:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MeInMediocrity]
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In an earlier statement, Delta said the flight crew had observed a "flight deck indication related to the right wing emergency exit slide, as well as a sound from near the right wing." The plane, a Boeing 767-300 that was delivered to Delta in 1990... |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:34:07 PM EDT
[#16]
Not your father's Boeing.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:41:13 PM EDT
[#17]
‘Member the whistleblower that got suicided just before testifying?
I ‘member. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 8:56:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Nothing was mentioned about any doors opening. How does the slide detach if any doors weren't opened? The 767 has slides mounted in wing compartments as well, which allow passengers to get to the ground from the overwing emergency exits. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Nothing was mentioned about any doors opening. How does the slide detach if any doors weren't opened? Overwing escape slide container probably opened up during flight and the slide just ripped out of container due to the flight speed. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: The slide didn't work on the left side in this crash as you can see the ladder, all three went out the right side of the aircraft where the slide did deploy: https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/5b5ebb3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4725x3150+0+0/resize/1440x960!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2F46%2Fb9%2F72fbd357d856f9555a23b2704ce3%2F4a7c309140704db395c74f4a1b112e20 No clue what went wrong on that 757, of course no slides over the wings as it is not needed. You will be surprise how much weight gets removed from a converted passenger aircraft for cargo operations. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Nothing was mentioned about any doors opening. How does the slide detach if any doors weren't opened? 767 slides are external. Theyre stowed under the door in a separate compartment because they’re so large. They function as both slides and rafts. They’re really f’ing big. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:15:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:49:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Not unusual... has happened several times with the 767.
I don't think the overwing slides had an epirb either. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:49:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Somewhere in the tri-state area, some kids now have the coolest Slip 'n Slide just in time for summer.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:25:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mouthpiece: Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mouthpiece: Originally Posted By 50cal: Nothing was mentioned about any doors opening. How does the slide detach if any doors weren't opened? Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. They are similiar |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:36:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DD1801: Kind of wondering how this happened…? The slide pack was replaced by maintenance at JFK which requires an inspector, we do these often as they are replaced on a hour/time based criteria. The door is locked in placed mechanically and unlocked in an emergency when the over wing door is opened which starts a sequence of events. An electrical signal is sent to a door actuator explosive squib which pops open the door linkage. At the end of the installation you are required to use a pull gage on the door to ensure the door is latched properly. Before you install the slide you inspect the mechanical linkage and locks to verify proper working order. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:43:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Not your father's Boeing. Actually, it is. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:45:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: The slide didn't work on the left side in this crash as you can see the ladder, all three went out the right side of the aircraft where the slide did deploy: https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/5b5ebb3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4725x3150+0+0/resize/1440x960!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2F46%2Fb9%2F72fbd357d856f9555a23b2704ce3%2F4a7c309140704db395c74f4a1b112e20 No clue what went wrong on that 757, of course no slides over the wings as it is not needed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By mouthpiece: Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. The slide didn't work on the left side in this crash as you can see the ladder, all three went out the right side of the aircraft where the slide did deploy: https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/5b5ebb3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4725x3150+0+0/resize/1440x960!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2F46%2Fb9%2F72fbd357d856f9555a23b2704ce3%2F4a7c309140704db395c74f4a1b112e20 No clue what went wrong on that 757, of course no slides over the wings as it is not needed. The reason the slide wasn't activated on the left side is because the crew used the slide on the right side and in order to access the aircraft someone had disarmed that slide in order to place a ladder there. You will bust your ass trying to climb up that right hand slide. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:58:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1BMF]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cda97: The reason the slide wasn't activated on the left side is because the crew used the slide on the right side and in order to access the aircraft someone had disarmed that slide in order to place a ladder there. You will bust your ass trying to climb up that right hand slide. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cda97: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By mouthpiece: Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. The slide didn't work on the left side in this crash as you can see the ladder, all three went out the right side of the aircraft where the slide did deploy: https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/5b5ebb3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4725x3150+0+0/resize/1440x960!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2F46%2Fb9%2F72fbd357d856f9555a23b2704ce3%2F4a7c309140704db395c74f4a1b112e20 No clue what went wrong on that 757, of course no slides over the wings as it is not needed. The reason the slide wasn't activated on the left side is because the crew used the slide on the right side and in order to access the aircraft someone had disarmed that slide in order to place a ladder there. You will bust your ass trying to climb up that right hand slide. You are both wrong. The 757 has a ladder on the left door and they casually climbed down. The slide is only deployed to throw all the boxes out of the plane. The delta 767 lost their slide because they didn’t ask for a ride report and flew through some light chop. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:59:23 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1BMF: You are both wrong. The 757 has a ladder on the left door and they casually climbed down. The slide is only deployed to throw all the boxes out of the plane. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1BMF: Originally Posted By cda97: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By mouthpiece: Some acft have Overwing slides which have a small door on the fuselage skin just sbove the wing just aft of the overwing emergency exit doors. It's not inside the fuselage. Edit; i know the 757 has the above mentioned config and many features of the 767 are similiar but I didn't work on those so idk for sure. The slide didn't work on the left side in this crash as you can see the ladder, all three went out the right side of the aircraft where the slide did deploy: https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/5b5ebb3/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4725x3150+0+0/resize/1440x960!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2F46%2Fb9%2F72fbd357d856f9555a23b2704ce3%2F4a7c309140704db395c74f4a1b112e20 No clue what went wrong on that 757, of course no slides over the wings as it is not needed. The reason the slide wasn't activated on the left side is because the crew used the slide on the right side and in order to access the aircraft someone had disarmed that slide in order to place a ladder there. You will bust your ass trying to climb up that right hand slide. You are both wrong. The 757 has a ladder on the left door and they casually climbed down. The slide is only deployed to throw all the boxes out of the plane. That would make it faster 
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:34:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cda97: The slide pack was replaced by maintenance at JFK which requires an inspector, we do these often as they are replaced on a hour/time based criteria. The door is locked in placed mechanically and unlocked in an emergency when the over wing door is opened which starts a sequence of events. An electrical signal is sent to a door actuator explosive squib which pops open the door linkage. At the end of the installation you are required to use a pull gage on the door to ensure the door is latched properly. Before you install the slide you inspect the mechanical linkage and locks to verify proper working order. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cda97: Originally Posted By DD1801: Kind of wondering how this happened…? The slide pack was replaced by maintenance at JFK which requires an inspector, we do these often as they are replaced on a hour/time based criteria. The door is locked in placed mechanically and unlocked in an emergency when the over wing door is opened which starts a sequence of events. An electrical signal is sent to a door actuator explosive squib which pops open the door linkage. At the end of the installation you are required to use a pull gage on the door to ensure the door is latched properly. Before you install the slide you inspect the mechanical linkage and locks to verify proper working order. Thanks. On the 707s I flew, we had crew arm the slides to the main crew entry door and the aft crew entry door via a strap that hooked from the door to the floor of the cabin. Rudimentry by today’s standards. So, for a slide to open/inflate someone would have to open one of the doors manually, or disconnect and pull on the strap. The slide was packed into the bottom of the door if I remember correctly. The overwing rafts were deployed manually after opening the overwing hatches. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:37:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Just part and parcel of living in a third world banana republic. Unfortunately, this |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:46:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DD1801: Thanks. On the 707s I flew, we had crew arm the slides to the main crew entry door and the aft crew entry door via a strap that hooked from the door to the floor of the cabin. Rudimentry by today’s standards. So, for a slide to open/inflate someone would have to open one of the doors manually, or disconnect and pull on the strap. The slide was packed into the bottom of the door if I remember correctly. The overwing rafts were deployed manually after opening the overwing hatches. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DD1801: Originally Posted By cda97: Originally Posted By DD1801: Kind of wondering how this happened…? The slide pack was replaced by maintenance at JFK which requires an inspector, we do these often as they are replaced on a hour/time based criteria. The door is locked in placed mechanically and unlocked in an emergency when the over wing door is opened which starts a sequence of events. An electrical signal is sent to a door actuator explosive squib which pops open the door linkage. At the end of the installation you are required to use a pull gage on the door to ensure the door is latched properly. Before you install the slide you inspect the mechanical linkage and locks to verify proper working order. Thanks. On the 707s I flew, we had crew arm the slides to the main crew entry door and the aft crew entry door via a strap that hooked from the door to the floor of the cabin. Rudimentry by today’s standards. So, for a slide to open/inflate someone would have to open one of the doors manually, or disconnect and pull on the strap. The slide was packed into the bottom of the door if I remember correctly. The overwing rafts were deployed manually after opening the overwing hatches. Still have slides armed/activated the same way on some aircraft, you place the slide girt bar into the floor fittings. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:37:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Boeing's fault
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:51:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: 767 slides are external. Theyre stowed under the door in a separate compartment because they’re so large. They function as both slides and rafts. They’re really f’ing big. 767 slides are in the (entry and service) door. Remove the slide and if you unlatch the door to open it you better be hanging on to it. The slide that popped was probably an overwing. And I would be looking at the maintenance guys. |
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