Declassified: Navy pilot downs FOUR Russian MiGs in one mission in Korean War!

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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:31:51 AM EDT

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxAPIcSTOhE&feature=youtu.be

Posted: 12/24/2018 1:33:30 AM EDT

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Posted: 12/24/2018 1:46:34 AM EDT

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4 mig kills by 1 pilot in 1 mission?

That pilot is a bad motherfucker!!

Posted: 12/24/2018 1:49:03 AM EDT

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Yeah, I love our people. Four dead Soviet pilots and our guy came home alive.

Posted: 12/24/2018 1:57:50 AM EDT

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OST

Posted: 12/24/2018 2:10:46 AM EDT

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That is crazy, they screwed him out of lots of free beers by not letting him tell that story though.

Posted: 12/24/2018 2:13:38 AM EDT

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When stuff like this becomes declassified do they just call up whoever is still alive and tell them they can talk about it now.

Posted: 12/24/2018 2:16:48 AM EDT

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I think I read about this on a post here in 2014 or so. It had links to pictures of the story in a paper magazine or something.

Posted: 12/24/2018 2:24:35 AM EDT

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Man it doesn't look like they hooked him up with a DFC or anything if that rack they showed was accurate. Kinda sucks.

Posted: 12/24/2018 2:35:38 AM EDT

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Very interesting. Amazing how many hits that aircraft sustained and kept flying.

Posted: 12/24/2018 7:11:35 AM EDT

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We're they Russian pilots, not clicking?

Posted: 12/24/2018 7:18:50 AM EDT

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I posted about him in the Dogfights thread a few days ago. What an incredible feat of flying.

Posted: 12/24/2018 7:56:56 AM EDT

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Posted: 12/24/2018 8:51:27 AM EDT

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Kill a commie for mommy. Good video

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:09:04 AM EDT

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True, but the first drink poured in his honor was by President Eisenhower, in person!

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:11:12 AM EDT

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Why would they classify that? I would think they would want it widely known our shit was worth 4+ of theirs.

Disclaimer: Did not watch video.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:14:37 AM EDT

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Amazing, in a Panther too (I guess).

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:20:04 AM EDT

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Right. The panther was well behind the Mig in performance.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:22:09 AM EDT

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Because they didn't want a nuclear exchange.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:26:41 AM EDT

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The Russian pilots had a lot of advantages in Korea. They were flying over home territory, usually had the altitude advantage and the Americans had limited fuel and endurance. The Americans could easily tell the Russian pilots by their advanced skill levels and referred to them as "Honchos".

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:33:52 AM EDT

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That was an interesting video. Thanks for posting it up.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:35:53 AM EDT

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Russian pilots in Soviet Air Force MiGs. They made the mistake of crossing their border to engage our guys who were bombing a Nork target.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:38:16 AM EDT

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Reminds of LT colonel Andrew tanner.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:38:43 AM EDT

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Because they didn't want a nuclear exchange.

They don't want the Russians to figure out that there were SIGINT specialists off their coast who were listening in to ground control. Remember,MiGs were ground vectored.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:39:36 AM EDT

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Russian pilots aren't and never were close to the same skill level as our pilots.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:40:47 AM EDT

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Because they didn't want a nuclear exchange.

Both sides didn't want it to get out.

Some ejecting Soviet pilots were machinegunned by their comrades to prevent their capture.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:41:22 AM EDT

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Because they didn't want a nuclear exchange.

They don't want the Russians to figure out that there were SIGINT specialists off their coast who were listening in to ground control. Remember,MiGs were ground vectored.

My father was in the ASA in Korea, from 52-54, as a Russian interpreter. There is so much shit still classified from that time, most of which involves us or the Russians messing with one another, and sometimes killing each other.

He used to talk about messing with their vectoring, and the altimeter settings when they'd try to check in. We put quite a few of theirs right into the ground.

Neither side wanted to admit a lot of things that were happening, or I think war would have been inevitable.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:45:32 AM EDT

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That wasn't true in Korea. The Russians were respected by the US pilots.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:45:54 AM EDT

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Because they didn't want a nuclear exchange.

Both sides didn't want it to get out.

Some ejecting Soviet pilots were machinegunned by their comrades to prevent their capture.

Yeah, that was pretty crazy shit. One minute he's your best friend, the next you HAVE to rip him apart with 20mm.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:46:49 AM EDT

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"Hanchos", as they called them.

But I mean the evidence shows American pilots were superior.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:50:03 AM EDT

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I’ve wondered that myself.

While ADAF, I was involved in some classified operations. I’m certain talking about them now wouldn’t affect national security but I’ve never been given the green light so I don’t say anything.

Posted: 12/24/2018 9:53:55 AM EDT

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My uncle didn't claim two migs. He didn't need or want the publicity (his inlaws lived in the workers' paradise). Accomplishing the mission and getting home was more important.

Posted: 12/24/2018 10:57:16 AM EDT

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Makes you wonder how many other bad asses are amongst us and can’t talk about it. I understand the need for secrecy and I’m not questioning that but I’d love to hear more of the recent stories of American excellence.

Posted: 12/24/2018 11:01:09 AM EDT

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It seems so from my interpretation. They launched from the Russian side and the Americans didn’t fire on them b/c they were Russian. When the Russians started firing, the American pilot started delivering bunker busters to the Russian pilots moms. I’m imagining that they kept it secret because they didn’t want to touch off a war with the Russians.

All of the above is complete conjecture so I don’t know if it’s true or not

Posted: 12/24/2018 11:10:11 AM EDT

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Posted: 12/24/2018 11:14:40 AM EDT

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Cool story, bad-as pilot.

Posted: 12/24/2018 3:04:24 PM EDT

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Some of them are on this website.

Posted: 12/24/2018 3:25:17 PM EDT

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Trying to prevent WW3

Just a “policing” action.

Posted: 12/24/2018 3:36:20 PM EDT

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Russian planes, Russian pilots, Russian markings and they left from a Russian airfield.

Now, a lot of Russians got shot down in Korea (some in Viet Nam) but they were pretending to be Norks.

TC

Posted: 12/24/2018 3:39:01 PM EDT

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TC

Posted: 12/24/2018 3:40:19 PM EDT

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What a load of BS. Just add eggnog and enjoy the Christmas story of McCain lookalike old fart.

I can’t wait for the story from demented John Rambo about him and his buddy executing hundreds of Russians with only four full magazines.

Posted: 12/24/2018 3:54:29 PM EDT

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BAMF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:05:04 PM EDT

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I guess they just assumed their drunk mechanics suck?

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:06:28 PM EDT

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The Russians declassified their version in 1990.

3 Soviet pilots were KIA in the action directly, Captain Valandov and Lieutenants Palomkhin and Tarshinov. Captain Viktor Belyakov limped his damaged MiG home but was killed in a crash landing.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-vs-america-how-us-jets-and-soviet-migs-secretly-battled-during-korean-war-34992

Silver Star citation: https://valor.militarytimes.com/hero/43421

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:12:14 PM EDT

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What a bad ass. I hope he received the proper award for his heroism.

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:20:45 PM EDT

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The Russians declassified their version in 1990.

3 Soviet pilots were KIA in the action directly, Captain Valandov and Lieutenants Palomkhin and Tarshinov. Captain Viktor Belyakov limped his damaged MiG home but was killed in a crash landing.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-vs-america-how-us-jets-and-soviet-migs-secretly-battled-during-korean-war-34992

Silver Star citation: https://valor.militarytimes.com/hero/43421

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What a load of BS. Just add eggnog and enjoy the Christmas story of McCain lookalike old fart.

I can’t wait for the story from demented John Rambo about him and his buddy executing hundreds of Russians with only four full magazines.

The Russians declassified their version in 1990.

3 Soviet pilots were KIA in the action directly, Captain Valandov and Lieutenants Palomkhin and Tarshinov. Captain Viktor Belyakov limped his damaged MiG home but was killed in a crash landing.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-vs-america-how-us-jets-and-soviet-migs-secretly-battled-during-korean-war-34992

Silver Star citation: https://valor.militarytimes.com/hero/43421

So Amundsen are you pro Russian or just anti reading?

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:27:28 PM EDT

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Some heroes are real and some are paper tigers.
I understand Americans are raised that way. Patriots with little education. So obviously I don’t judge their ignorance.

After all Americans still thinking they are the one who defeated nazi and isis.

Real hero is right here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Pepelyaev

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:48:27 PM EDT

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Arf used to not take kindly to people who would post that a true hero is a Communist that killed Americans but that was then and for whatever reason I don't understand,the staff has decided that Russian shills are great for conversation.

Posted: 12/24/2018 4:51:48 PM EDT

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Dat site traffic, tho.

Yeah, I've mentioned it to them, and they shrug. True American patriots all.