Our medics accidentally killed people with versed an succicholine.

Should be simple enough.

Liquid Plumber should do the trick.

They can get nitrogen from the local Airgas/Linde/Praxair.

I favor killing them however they killed their victims.  Shot in the chest at point-blank range? Fine.  Strangled nearly to death, set on fire, dumped in a lake? Fine.  Stabbed 87 times? Fine.
Make the punishment fit the crime.  They can enjoy the terror their victims did.

How high do you estimate you could get your partial pressure of C02 by holding your breath for a couple minutes?

When was the last time you ran an arterial blood gas on someone who was hypercarbic?

Clinically speaking, what does someone with a partial pressure C02 of 80-90 look like to you?

I appreciate your insight.

Sounds like politics and pencil pushers fucking up the machine.....which is typical.

While clearly not applicable to those we know are total shitbags (which is our own subjective view and not something legally definable), don’t cheer on the death penalty because if the Left had their way YOU would be at the end of a rope.

This

So to address this(and any other "use this" ) drug question(NO, CO2, CO, ect) . ... BY LAW, any drug legally used in the US must pass 2 bars .

1. SAFE IE  it must not cause harm greater than the untreated disease.( so benedryl is sleepy inducing, but that is a minor inconvience to sneezing every 3 seconds. ect., chemotherapy drugs(which are SUPER TOXIC and HUGELY bad side effects) prevent cancer so they are legal, use them for allergies (even if they worked) and it wouldnt be safe )
2. EFFECTIVE. IE if benedryl is "for allergy relief" and it doesnt work on most people(or even some). then it isnt effective for the condidtion or symptom it is supposed to treat. Can a person(not company) take tylenol for hay fever? sure, can a company sell said Tylenol  with the intent to treat hay fever knowing it doesnt do anything for it? NO.

So lets look at any drug(which CO2 likely is a drug medically, maybe used in small doses to adjust blood PH; Fentanyl (drug for pain management), CO (dunno, maybe blood PH, or binding of other stuff to blood in small doses, not my background). IF the intended use of the drug is "to kill someone" by definition it CANNOT be safely used. I mean while it WOULD be EFFECTIVE it is not SAFE, and thus cannot be licensed by hte FDA for use. So the FDA CANNOT legally authorize the use, a doctor CANNOT legally use the drug . The lethal injection cocktail drugs are all separately used in several other uses(paralytic is used by EMT's for intubation, the heart stopping one is micro dosed to deal with heart electrical activity stuff IIRC), ect. So soon as a doctor says "hey im going to use this drug to cause death..." "SAFE" is pretty hard to argue, so  the FDA gets... pissed.

If you said " im buying this gun so shoot XYZ person and kill them" any gun store says "DENIED" on the 4473, which is essentially what the shortage comes down to. The states CAN'T legally import the compounds because the FDA determines that "killing a prisoner" isn't "SAFE" per the law( meaning for the patient/prisoner/victim/, not the public at large).  The effectiveness isnt argued, just the "safety of patient" , when you say "condition to be cured by administration of this drug is "alive" " it is hard to argue "SAFE".

We just need to contact Spectre:

https://youtu.be/v7cEnaXU8Ec?list=TLGGJu-8wrz9oAAxMTA0MjAyMg

12 seconds….and a shoe, to boot.

Plenty of Fentanyl around...

Honestly that would be significantly more humane than what we’re using now.

Don’t Leo’s confiscate enough fentanyl to kill a billion people every week ?  There you go.

Hammer, fall from Helo, feed to crocodiles, tie to train tracks, the same the method the convicted used on their victims....
I'm going with same method they used on their victims...

Actually the horse pink shot.  That shit is nearly instant.

What's with the sandbags?

Bingo. Who the fuck cares about being humane?

How about helium
Everyone would be laughing when it was over well except for one

High CO2 levels in the body is what triggers the respiratory drive.  Maybe the words choking and gagging should be replaced by "gasping", but basically its an accurate statement.  If you want to "gas" people, use a gas that does not trigger the respiratory drive, such as CO or N2 (preferred since N2 is cheap, non toxic, and easy to handle).

Helium is expensive.  It would work for sure, but N2 is a lot cheaper and work just as well.

Or use this.  All you'd have to do to maintain it is wash off the blood and occasionally oil the blade.

Ceiling Cat said it. Fentanyl.  Send them off in a happy way

It cuts down on the sprawl

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Yeah, they don’t get paid to put you to sleep. They get paid to make sure you wake up.

Bottle of vodka, Walther Model 2, case of ammo, and Vasily Blokhin. That'll clear the backlog.

I saw that in a Heinlein book.
Guy was convicted of reckless driving causing injury.
They held him down, drove a car over his leg, and the ambulance crew just stood there waiting for the response time it originally took for the victim to get EMS services. Then they stabilized his leg, put him on a gurney and took him to the hospital.

You beat me to it.  

So deadly you don't need a needle, just smear it on their skin.  /sarc

Sounds like a feature, not a bug.

Couple of elite Ann Arbor university students offed themselves with Helium.
They saw some kind of inflatable advertising prop filled with Helium, they managed to climb in and bounce around happily until they passed out.
You can tell that school has high academic standards.

I do not trust my government with the power to execute its citizens.


I am also unconvinced that the death penalty is an effective deterrent.

Thanks for the education.  

Correct.  Companies have actually temporarily stopped producing some drugs that had useful medical purposes because they were being used for lethal injection.  

That lead states to start using drugs that were not as effective, which then lead to claims that the procedure amounted to cruel and unusual punishment.

It's a deterrent to some people, but not to many others.  Many criminals are criminals in the first place because they lack impulse control.  Threat of punishment means nothing if the criminal acts without thinking.

All you can ultimately do is remove broken people from society.

They could put it in the air as a powder I guess, to avoid the whole FDA thing.

Decontaminating the body and the whole area would be a major PITA though.

I was under the impression that what The_Fly posted was the case, but I freely admit that impression comes from reading novels and could be completely wrong. Is it not the case that the 'I can't breathe' feeling comes from CO2 buildup and not a lack of oxygen per se?

This is so stupid.

Why not give them a dose of propofol and push them underwater?

A bit technical, but read this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_of_ventilation

Waste of perfectly good water  Seriously, a large dose of fentanyl is cheap (just get it from the police evidence locker), painless, and effective.

Inert Gas asphyxiation with Nitrogen or Helium (Soundproof the booth ) could work.

Main thing your body keeps track of when it comes to breathing isn't oxygen, but CO2. If you're in a room full of inert gas that displaces oxygen (Nitrogen, Helium, etc.) you'll simply become lightheaded and lose consciousness without the "OH MY GOD I'M SUFFOCATING" feeling.

Dunno why it's not a common form of execution, considering it'd be relatively humane and negates the need for expensive drugs that have lots of arguments over what the prisoner feels during the execution process.

EDIT: Biggest "concern" is how to make sure the prisoner is dead, as I imagine actual death by asphyxiation can take a while and you want to make sure the inmates heart has been stopped and breathing ceased for a decent length of time before you vent the room. If the inmate survives, there'll be widespread brain damage and the execution botched.

I guess 20-30 minutes should do it?

Never got the one blank for firing squads. Where they pressed into service? If they volunteered then it wouldn’t matter? The hangman, or ax/swordsman, or throwing the switch, didn’t seem to mind being the sole person doling out punishment. No need for conscience there.

Why have multiple people do it? Just rig up a number of guns on stands aimed at the condemned’s heart all actuated by a single device that fires all the guns at once on a timer. A literal machine gun. One executioner to set it up and run it.

Maybe it would be a “unusual” punishment but why not have one of those big stompers that killed Cyrus “the Virus” at the end of Conair? Just smoosh thier heads to a thin pancake with a 5000 lb rod at 30 miles and hour. Destroy the brain instantaneously.

Firing Squad should be it.  There are really no unknowns, and it was used widely in the past.  Many war criminals were shot during WWII this way without any problems.  Its quick and efficient.  A few chest shots with a rifle means you're going to be unconscious quickly from shock and blood loss.  

I don't know why so many people think lethal injection is the only option.

Hell, it's South Carolina, they could raffle off the opportunity to be on the firing squad and make some serious money. I'd pay quite a bit to be able to send Dylan Roof off to his great award.

I have read news articles where they OD'ed from touching it by mistake.

And media idiots in the news are lying to you.  You can't really absorb fentanyl through the skin.  You need to breath it in, inject it, or swallow it.

Ohio has it right: