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Posted: 4/28/2022 8:07:36 PM EDT
Hi Guys,

foremost : I am not a Car Guys, Car is a tool that has to work. I can fix and do small things on my car but that is about it, i dont follow models or makes, i dont have a preference.
Normally i drive my cars until they are not worth repairing but i do need something bigger in the foreseeable future.

Nonetheless did i today see a 2018 Ford Explorer XLT with the V6 Engine that is ringing all my bells.

Since here are expert for literally anything i wanted to ask if somebody here has Experience with that particular Car / Model / Engine ?

I am especially concerned about :

- Reliability (Fords dont have the best record, at least from what i heard)
- is the advertised MPG 16/22 realistic ? Its really not great but would not be a deal breaker
- maint. and insurance cost ?


2018
55k Miles
3.5L V6
Some nice features and i looks cool (that is really it, i dont care about all the details and in terms of electronics it has too much allready but that is a cross i would have to carry with every newer Car)

Asking $33.900 but are willing to give me good trade in Value on my car.

If arf.com talks me out of this one i am 90% set on a new Subaru Forester that will be delivered in Sept if i order this month.


Thank you all in Advance.

Link Posted: 4/28/2022 8:26:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Turbo or na? The ones in my fleet go through tires, even with alignments. And the water pump is inside the engine. I've done a bunch of lower control arms. Nothing really traumatic, but we have the 3.7 na v6.
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 8:52:38 PM EDT
[#2]
We just gave our 2016 to our daughter with 140K on it. It has been bulletproof when we bought it used with 28000 on it. It had the 3.6 I think and it had good power and averaged a solid 20 mpg in mixed driving with a best of 28mpg on a long trip.
I wouldn't fear it.
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 8:53:01 PM EDT
[#3]
I have a 2018 Limited with the V6.  Nice car with more junk in it than the XLT.

Since it does have more stuff (my drivers seat has 6 motors and a separate air-condition/heat pump system) more stuff can go wrong.

Big items are:
The internal water pump.  If it leaks it can go into the engine oil.  Pump = $2000, engine = $6000
If you have 4wd/AWD the PTU (transfer case) sits next to the catalytic converter which cooks the oil and destroys the bearings/gears.  $2500
The rear AC lines can leak and you have to take the subframe apart to replace for $1800.

I recommend a Ford ESP warranty from one of the online dealers.  Mine was $1750 for 8 years/100k.


Nice thing is that there a ton of 5th gen explorers around and you can get parts easily.  So insurance is cheap, maintenance on par with other american SUVs.

TYCOM
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 9:22:58 PM EDT
[#4]
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Turbo or na? The ones in my fleet go through tires, even with alignments. And the water pump is inside the engine. I've done a bunch of lower control arms. Nothing really traumatic, but we have the 3.7 na v6.
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In honestly dont even know, i would have assumed but after looking it up it does not mention anything about it. 3.5L TI-VCT V6 is what the Sticker said, that would then be this without a turbo correct ? https://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=159

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I have a 2018 Limited with the V6.  Nice car with more junk in it than the XLT.

Since it does have more stuff (my drivers seat has 6 motors and a separate air-condition/heat pump system)
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Jesus but i think this one has the same seats, felt like it had more buttons on the Seat than my car has in total.

Big items are:
The internal water pump.  If it leaks it can go into the engine oil.  Pump = $2000, engine = $6000
If you have 4wd/AWD the PTU (transfer case) sits next to the catalytic converter which cooks the oil and destroys the bearings/gears.  $2500
The rear AC lines can leak and you have to take the subframe apart to replace for $1800.
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It is the 4WD, i guess for all these issues there is no way to check for them beforehand or to keep an eye on them, its just too late at one point ?

It still comes with the rest of 10y/100k warrently, that would let me sleep in peace for 3-4 Years.
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 9:33:02 PM EDT
[#5]
Had 2 explorers over the years and lastly an Edge that shares same drive line and a lot of other with the explorer, including the 3.5 non turbo v6. The integral water pump is a ticking time bomb that you can't change without pulling the motor. It also has plastic valve covers with pressed in seals; I was 1 for 2 in changing the seals without breaking the valve cover.  I'm a ford guy and they build a great truck in the f150. That said, I just replaced my wife's ford edge with a 2019 Toyota Highlander. Similar size etc to explorer. Much more reliable
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 10:17:49 PM EDT
[#6]
The n/a motor in that should be less maintenance. Have the ptu fluid changed, although it is a pain to do so. I think the water pump can be done in the car, but it's a ton of work. If you're losing coolant get it checked right away. It will usually leak externally near the alternator before it gets bad enough to leak internally.
Link Posted: 5/3/2022 9:39:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Electric power steering racks are another common failure.

Link Posted: 5/3/2022 11:30:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Buy a highlander or RX350.

Pics from a taurus water pump that I did.




Link Posted: 5/4/2022 5:52:56 AM EDT
[#9]
We ditched my wife's 2016 limited, it spent its first 3 months in and out of the dealership for the a/c and heated drivers seat. The only other issues with it were recall related, it had 5 over the course of 4 years of owning it. The actual mileage was 15mpg city and 22hwy if it was really babied.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 12:43:57 PM EDT
[#10]
I've got a 2015 Explorer XLT with 165k, that I've had for about 10k miles. Cloth seats, FWD.

Bought mine from my company as a former fleet vehicle. Its been great to me so far. 22-23mpg average.

I thought the newer models had corrected the built in water pump issue but not sure.
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 5:41:27 PM EDT
[#11]
We have a 2011 xlt v6 with 165k and it’s been perfect. I tried  to like the Highlander but the third row was a joke.
Link Posted: 5/8/2022 11:29:09 PM EDT
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I've got a 2015 Explorer XLT with 165k, that I've had for about 10k miles. Cloth seats, FWD.

Bought mine from my company as a former fleet vehicle. Its been great to me so far. 22-23mpg average.

I thought the newer models had corrected the built in water pump issue but not sure.
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The newer waterpumps have a double seal to prevent coolant going into the engine oil.  They still fail but at least you see it drip outside first.

TYCOM
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