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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:42:24 PM EDT
China reverses its “one child only” policy a while back, because it’s population is now shrinking (and no one wants to move to China ).
It’s latest move is to discourage all the abortions - which is ironic because China once forced abortions (and involuntary sterilization) on women who were pregnant with a second child (you don’t want to investigate all the forced abortions; it was a true horror and crime against humanity). https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/china-abortion-birthrate/2022/08/16/id/1083346/ Does anyone remember the GD post from a month or two back, about China lying and under-reporting their census results? Gist was: a leak revealed China is smaller than it officially claims to be. |
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Don't they have like billions of people? I think they could stand to lose a few million.
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That “leak” is questionable source but China has been shrinking since at least 2018. Problem is Japan and South Korea have been shrinking since the 1990s and the USA since 2009. They have a bigger baseline than we do or anyone else in Asia but India to work with. So far none of the policies to encourage having more kids have worked in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or 87% of countries so far. Which is why Elon Musk made those announcements this year.
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All the gifs I have for asian chicks doing that are nudes So I never get to post |
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Could always offer the border hordes a "free" Chinese Cruise/Vacation.
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There is a reason why China has a ticking timer on when to do military things.
Unless they figure out how to automate everything. |
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China enacted a three child policy recently, it's everybody's patriotic duty to have kids yadda yadda. But that's after they enacted a two child policy in 2015 that completely failed, it didn't move the needle at all. And that was before they entered a serious economic crisis that many see as the end of the good old days for the Chinese.
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Quoted: China enacted a three child policy recently, it's everybody's patriotic duty to have kids yadda yadda. But that's after they enacted a two child policy in 2015 that completely failed, it didn't move the needle at all. And that was before they entered a serious economic crisis that many see as the end of the good old days for the Chinese. View Quote Psychologically speaking, China is a mess. Some people here tell this story that they are this invincible horde of communist ubermenchen who ALWAYS follow orders. But realistically speaking, what does the average young person in China have to look forward to? A lifetime of grinding labor and/or taking care of dozens of incredibly cranky old people? A major war would not solve these issues, they would in fact make things significantly worse. Their leadership is incredibly greedy and corrupt and yet entirely too many people seem to think that the world is theirs. |
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Quoted: China reverses its “one child only” policy a while back, because it’s population is now shrinking (and no one wants to move to China ). It’s latest move is to discourage all the abortions - which is ironic because China once forced abortions (and involuntary sterilization) on women who were pregnant with a second child (you don’t want to investigate all the forced abortions; it was a true horror and crime against humanity). https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/china-abortion-birthrate/2022/08/16/id/1083346/ Does anyone remember the GD post from a month or two back, about China lying and under-reporting their census results? Gist was: a leak revealed China is smaller than it officially claims to be. View Quote China is a mess. They got rid of the two kid policy but nobody was having kids because it cost a shit ton of money to raise a kid in China and the people of child rearing age got used to a standard of living that they are not willing to give up. Sound familiar? |
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That slow boat has already sailed. They are probably below 1.3B now, and losing something on the order 10M (and accelerating) each year. Chinese can't afford to house kids in the cities, plus couples have to take in old, sick parents and grandparents, which busts their budget and eats up available room. Let's not forget they generally killed off the women babies, so not so many baby making machines.
Best Guess is they fall bellow 1B by 2050, and maybe much sooner. |
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Quoted: mail order tennis players? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/9d/a5/109da581784f4b4dce582790699a7180.gif View Quote IBTL Attached File |
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Quoted: That slow boat has already sailed. They are probably below 1.3B now, and losing something on the order 10M (and accelerating) each year. Chinese can't afford to house kids in the cities, plus couples have to take in old, sick parents and grandparents, which busts their budget and eats up available room. Let's not forget they generally killed off the women babies, so not so many baby making machines. Best Guess is they fall bellow 1B by 2050, and maybe much sooner. View Quote Conservative predictions say 2035 hence all the Taiwan war talk now as Xi Jingping would be 82 years old by then, no guarantee he’d live that long. |
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This is why I hate the Malthusian Club of Rome/WEF/technocrat globalist assholes wrecking the world now.
As nations get richer, their populations dwindle, and they put higher emphasis on environmental concerns as they develop and get richer. A totalitarian oligarchic anti-human depopulation, de-carbonization, surveillance control system isn't needed. Lower population and lower pollution will happen all on its own by peoples' choices and preferences, as long as people have the economic and political freedom to develop prosperous societies. But these greedy idiots think the world they rightly own won't survive unless they take control of it and destroy western civilization. |
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Quoted: Psychologically speaking, China is a mess. Some people here tell this story that they are this invincible horde of communist ubermenchen who ALWAYS follow orders. But realistically speaking, what does the average young person in China have to look forward to? A lifetime of grinding labor and/or taking care of dozens of incredibly cranky old people? A major war would not solve these issues, they would in fact make things significantly worse. Their leadership is incredibly greedy and corrupt and yet entirely too many people seem to think that the world is theirs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: China enacted a three child policy recently, it's everybody's patriotic duty to have kids yadda yadda. But that's after they enacted a two child policy in 2015 that completely failed, it didn't move the needle at all. And that was before they entered a serious economic crisis that many see as the end of the good old days for the Chinese. Psychologically speaking, China is a mess. Some people here tell this story that they are this invincible horde of communist ubermenchen who ALWAYS follow orders. But realistically speaking, what does the average young person in China have to look forward to? A lifetime of grinding labor and/or taking care of dozens of incredibly cranky old people? A major war would not solve these issues, they would in fact make things significantly worse. Their leadership is incredibly greedy and corrupt and yet entirely too many people seem to think that the world is theirs. China has no social safety net…..the kids are their retirement plan, especially sons. And due to policy, they are mostly only children If war comes, every dead PLA soldier or sailor is one more couple that just lost their retirement plan. That can’t be good for the stability of the State. |
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Everywhere that has industrialized is shrinking. The higher the standard of living becomes the fewer children people have.
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Quoted: This is why I hate the Malthusian Club of Rome/WEF/technocrat globalist assholes wrecking the world now. As nations get richer, their populations dwindle, and they put higher emphasis on environmental concerns as they develop and get richer. A totalitarian oligarchic anti-human depopulation, de-carbonization, surveillance control system isn't needed. Lower population and lower pollution will happen all on its own by peoples' choices and preferences, as long as people have the economic and political freedom to develop prosperous societies. But these greedy idiots think the world they rightly own won't survive unless they take control of it and destroy western civilization. View Quote |
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Quoted: China has no social safety net ..the kids are their retirement plan, especially sons. And due to policy, they are mostly only children If war comes, every dead PLA soldier or sailor is one more couple that just lost their retirement plan. That can't be good for the stability of the State. View Quote |
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It’s a wash because Taiwan, Japan and South Korea have worse birth rates. The only thing propping up USA birth rates is including births to illegal aliens Attached File
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Quoted: China enacted a three child policy recently, it's everybody's patriotic duty to have kids yadda yadda. But that's after they enacted a two child policy in 2015 that completely failed, it didn't move the needle at all. And that was before they entered a serious economic crisis that many see as the end of the good old days for the Chinese. View Quote They used to do forced abortions. Maybe they’ll start doing forced inseminations. |
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Quoted: They used to do forced abortions. Maybe they’ll start doing forced inseminations. View Quote I wrote a story recently where it was briefly mentioned that there was a rather ugly war because the Chinese government instituted a program of forced genetic modification of its newborns. Perhaps they might start with something a little more conservative? Then work their way up to engineering a master race? |
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It is not so much the numbers as the fact that it is the huge decline in working age adults.
Soon it will be old people with not enough younger workers to keep things running. |
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China doesn’t have illegal aliens and it still isn’t in the top 20 list https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-declining-population Attached File
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Quoted: That “leak” is questionable source but China has been shrinking since at least 2018. Problem is Japan and South Korea have been shrinking since the 1990s and the USA since 2009. They have a bigger baseline than we do or anyone else in Asia but India to work with. So far none of the policies to encourage having more kids have worked in Taiwan, South Korea, Japan or 87% of countries so far. Which is why Elon Musk made those announcements this year. View Quote Musk knows it's THIS civilization that has to get off this rock. If we suffer a significant setback there likely won't be enough resource density to reach for the stars again, the EROEI will be lower, costs higher. He's smart enough to see civilization is unraveling and production peaking and that if that unraveling picks up enough speed all his dreams will die. |
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Quoted: China doesn’t have illegal aliens and it still isn’t in the top 20 list https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-declining-populationhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/EDBBE661-4A6C-4965-92EA-D3C44F3CE2E9_jpe-2491585.JPG View Quote those countries had better increase muslim and african immigration or else their demographic problems will get even worse! |
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Quoted: This is why I hate the Malthusian Club of Rome/WEF/technocrat globalist assholes wrecking the world now. As nations get richer, their populations dwindle, and they put higher emphasis on environmental concerns as they develop and get richer. A totalitarian oligarchic anti-human depopulation, de-carbonization, surveillance control system isn't needed. Lower population and lower pollution will happen all on its own by peoples' choices and preferences, as long as people have the economic and political freedom to develop prosperous societies. But these greedy idiots think the world they rightly own won't survive unless they take control of it and destroy western civilization. View Quote Nailed it. |
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We should collect the illegals coming across our border and then send them to China. That would solve 3 problems in one shot.
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Quoted: those countries had better increase muslim and african immigration or else their demographic problems will get even worse! View Quote https://www.politico.eu/article/un-europe-migration-open-hearts-and-borders-mustnt-end-with-ukrainian-refugees/amp/ Attached File |
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Quoted: mail order tennis players? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/9d/a5/109da581784f4b4dce582790699a7180.gif View Quote Yes please. |
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Quoted: This is why I hate the Malthusian Club of Rome/WEF/technocrat globalist assholes wrecking the world now. As nations get richer, their populations dwindle, and they put higher emphasis on environmental concerns as they develop and get richer. A totalitarian oligarchic anti-human depopulation, de-carbonization, surveillance control system isn't needed. Lower population and lower pollution will happen all on its own by peoples' choices and preferences, as long as people have the economic and political freedom to develop prosperous societies. But these greedy idiots think the world they rightly own won't survive unless they take control of it and destroy western civilization. View Quote All true. |
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Afghanistan and sub Saharan Africa https://www.euromonitor.com/article/three-out-of-the-worlds-top-five-oldest-populations-will-be-in-asia-by-2040 Attached File
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When China's population moved to the cities it was just assumed a ridiculous number of peasants were still out there in rural areas. Which is not how it works.
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Sounds like if you live in China, you are probably going to get phucked!
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