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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:47:15 AM EDT
[#1]
In before the move.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:51:47 AM EDT
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The Special Olympics seems to be lining up early for today's race. This should be good.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:52:35 AM EDT
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Reminds me of one of those cults after the UFO fails to appear.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:57:10 AM EDT
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They’re not to that level of defeat yet.
My buddy is still telling me to “trust the plan” and “any day now, you’ll see”. I just got into a big ass argument last night with him because he’s got his head in the sand, instead of moving forward and getting prepared. Any question regarding the shit they come up with us met with hostility and calling me a fake patriot. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:57:47 AM EDT
[#5]
Q predicted this
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:58:56 AM EDT
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Thy are still going strong in the election thread. They are expecting massive arrests of all the Democrats any minute now and think Trump signed the Insurrection Act to take them down which is why the National Guard is in DC. The fact that Democrats demanded the National Guard from now until the inauguration to make sure there is no disruption of Biden being publicly sworn is...that is just not something that has any basis in reality to them.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:00:05 AM EDT
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Q ruined MAGA.
That was probably the objective, all along. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:00:51 AM EDT
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Q predicts this thread will be moved or disappeared.
Q is fucking retarded. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:01:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Special Olympics seems to be lining up early for today's race. This should be good. No, he's right. The Q movement seemed to replace any feelings of "this isn't right, we should do something about this" to "eh trust the plan/Sessions/some other DC politician who is somehow different from all the other politicians." It also encouraged obviously ridiculous notions such as alien infiltration, gematria, astrology...thereby increasing the noise and reducing any cohesive signal on the right. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:02:06 AM EDT
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I don't know what is more absurd, the Q stuff or you thinking it caused our current situation.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:02:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: In my opinion, this "4D chess" "trust the plan" and Q anon stuff has done more to waste an opportunity than the establishment did during the Trump years. Can we please have honest conversations with ourselves now? For years many have been deluding themselves that there was going to be a final move to bring about Trump's agenda. This lulled people into a false sense of security, and encouraged them to inaction. To be honest, I think I was even affected to some degree. I know I didnt do enough, and I didn't really buy into it. I can only imagine how someone who was true believer now feels. I dont say this to make a judgement, just trying to state the facts. The reason it is so effective is that it appeals to basic human nature (which conservatives share in common with liberals). That is, the deep seeded desire to be taken care of. Conservatives imagined a knight in shining armor that would come to aid them be free. Liberals believe that socialism will take care of them so they can be more free. I know I am over generalizing here, just pointing out this delusion has deeply hurt us. The anger you are feeling right now, is really anger at yourself for believing in a narrative that is patently absurd. You have to save yourself by taking action, and it will become more costly the longer you spend denying that. I believe that right now we need to be talking to our state representatives and finding the federal circuit judges that will delay the inevitable unconstitutional Biden/Harris EOs. I think if we get enough states to recognize that fair and free communication shouldnt be taken away from someone simply for their political views, then we may be able to make a stand. Solutions will NOT come from a national level. Do NOT look at the RNC for help, or think that voting for a new POTUS will do anything. We are beyond that now. For this to be correct, Trump would have to be involved. There is zero chance that Trump would stand by and say nothing while an enemy undermined his efforts. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:03:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: In my opinion, this "4D chess" "trust the plan" and Q anon stuff has done more to waste an opportunity than the establishment did during the Trump years. Can we please have honest conversations with ourselves now? For years many have been deluding themselves that there was going to be a final move to bring about Trump's agenda. This lulled people into a false sense of security, and encouraged them to inaction. To be honest, I think I was even affected to some degree. I know I didnt do enough, and I didn't really buy into it. I can only imagine how someone who was true believer now feels. I dont say this to make a judgement, just trying to state the facts. The reason it is so effective is that it appeals to basic human nature (which conservatives share in common with liberals). That is, the deep seeded desire to be taken care of. Conservatives imagined a knight in shining armor that would come to aid them be free. Liberals believe that socialism will take care of them so they can be more free. I know I am over generalizing here, just pointing out this delusion has deeply hurt us. The anger you are feeling right now, is really anger at yourself for believing in a narrative that is patently absurd. You have to save yourself by taking action, and it will become more costly the longer you spend denying that. I believe that right now we need to be talking to our state representatives and finding the federal circuit judges that will delay the inevitable unconstitutional Biden/Harris EOs. I think if we get enough states to recognize that fair and free communication shouldnt be taken away from someone simply for their political views, then we may be able to make a stand. Solutions will NOT come from a national level. Do NOT look at the RNC for help, or think that voting for a new POTUS will do anything. We are beyond that now. The last paragraph makes some sense. The previous paragraphs, I am not sure that you understand. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:04:32 AM EDT
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The Q stuff was interesting early on. I couldn’t help but be curious if it was legit. So I waited to see what happened.
Then when nothing ever came from any of it... again and again. I’m honestly amazed people still believe that crap. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:06:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Alex Jones show yesterday was 1/2 about Q being a psyop. Worth a listen.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:06:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Q stuff was interesting early on. I couldn’t help but be curious if it was legit. So I waited to see what happened. Then when nothing ever came from any of it... again and again. I’m honestly amazed people still believe that crap. I saw as a political horoscope. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:06:29 AM EDT
[#16]
Not here.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:06:46 AM EDT
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The fact of the matter is that nothing you could have done would have changed current events.
The uncomfortable truth is that all levels of the government, every branch, had corruption that was unseen and unnoticed to millions of people. The things being done behind the scenes to stifle opposition was so great and unimaginable that nothing could penetrate it. Outsiders were not going to be allowed to takeover the government peacefully. Fact. The "Q" movement exposed everyone to the fact that the government has many fail safes. When one avenue of our attack succeeded, they strategized and mounted a defense seemlessly. The counter measures employed by the corrupt bureaucrats were effective at blocking any pursuit of truth and justice. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:16:16 AM EDT
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LOL
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:18:07 AM EDT
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Conservatives didn't want to believe that all the institutions they supported during the Bush years would turn on them. Q was a way for them to believe that there really were "good men on the inside". Also the belief that one big battle would occur and fix everything is vastly more appealing than the political reality, which is that any change is going to be slow and incremental and involve boring shit like volunteering for some local campaign. Q reads like a Tom Clancy novel.
The only question about Q is whether it was some grifter that got out of hand, or a serious psyop run by a NGO or government agency. I only say this because: "During a period where public confidence in institutions is collapsing and there are weekly scandals regarding the politicization of the intelligence community and military, get the demographic losing faith in said institutions to believe that the intel community and military is really on their side." Is essentially what Q was and reads like a textbook pro-government psyop mission objective. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:21:38 AM EDT
[#20]
I was actually thinking about this same this last night.
Qtards thinking someone else is going to save them besides taking action |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:23:09 AM EDT
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You know what an uncomfortable truth is?
We all let this happen, over the last 80+ years. When "our" side kept up the act of believing "It can't happen here" and putting faith in the opposing side still believed in American values. We had warnings. We had evidence. But the other team had PLANS. They spent decades working on them and the last 12 years has been those plans coming to fruition. We kept paying taxes and being "good citizens" while their side exalted lying and deceit to achieve their goals. The last 4 years was like having a life preserver in a tsunami. We didn't drown like we could have, but the water has receded, we no longer need the life preserver; but the land has been destroyed. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:26:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservatives didn't want to believe that all the institutions they supported during the Bush years would turn on them. Q was a way for them to believe that there really were "good men on the inside". Also the belief that one big battle would occur and fix everything is vastly more appealing than the political reality, which is that any change is going to be slow and incremental and involve boring shit like volunteering for some local campaign. This is the best analysis of that clusterfuck I've ever seen here. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:27:03 AM EDT
[#23]
Shock_ing
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:29:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Q ruined MAGA. That was probably the objective, all along. I wouldn't go that far. It certainly does annoy the fuck out of people tho. The word declas or white hat makes me want to reflexively punch someone in the head until they stop moving.  Trump got 11,000,000 more votes than in 16. He got 6 million more than Obama did in 2008. What ruined MAGA was Pence. Democrats think men are women. It should not shock anyone that they would identify 54,000,000 votes as 80,000,000. It is pretty fucking gay that Pence would cuck to it like a little bitch. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:29:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reminds me of one of those cults after the UFO fails to appear. ... 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:30:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservatives didn't want to believe that all the institutions they supported during the Bush years would turn on them. Q was a way for them to believe that there really were "good men on the inside". Also the belief that one big battle would occur and fix everything is vastly more appealing than the political reality, which is that any change is going to be slow and incremental and involve boring shit like volunteering for some local campaign. Q reads like a Tom Clancy novel. The only question about Q is whether it was some grifter that got out of hand, or a serious psyop run by a NGO or government agency. I only say this because: "During a period where public confidence in institutions is collapsing and there are weekly scandals regarding the politicization of the intelligence community and military, get the demographic losing faith in said institutions to believe that the intel community and military is really on their side." Is essentially what Q was and reads like a textbook pro-government psyop mission objective. Whoever it was will right a book about it 50 years from now that will be a masterful study of group manipulation. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:32:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what is more absurd, the Q stuff or you thinking it caused our current situation. Agree for the most part. But what if all of the people waiting for Saint Q to step in had actually pushed Rs and Trump to do stuff the last 4 years? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:32:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whoever it was will right a book about it 50 years from now that will be a masterful study of group manipulation. 1984 was already published. Along with Fahrenheit 451 and the (written) Running Man. And Wag the Dog was already in theaters. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:32:57 AM EDT
[#29]
Watch alex jones RIP apart Q. Disinfo campaign.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2L2X4bW5VAh3/ Skip to 48min |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:33:38 AM EDT
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I paid attention to the Saudi Purge thread early on, since that initial event had some relevance for an upcoming deployment. Like many threads in GD, it went off the rails pretty quickly. I'd check in on the thread when an event actually relating to KSA, MbS, the GCC, or something relevant to me occurred and I would see nothing relating to that event, or so far off or misinterpreted that it was useless for me. The Khashoggi "event" immediately comes to mind in that regard.
While I think Q started as a troll that morphed into a PSYOP with some grift, the biggest consequence of Q was that it got people complacent by making them think there was some group of "good guys" working behind the scenes to help them. The crazier it got, the more it pulled in people who have fallen susceptible to conspiracy theories in the past. Here's a uncomfortable truth: no one is working behind the scenes to help you. No one. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:36:00 AM EDT
[#31]
Q is Ezra Cohen Watkins. Under Secretary of defense. Look up his history. It's a giant psy-op.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:40:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:43:11 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree for the most part. But what if all of the people waiting for Saint Q to step in had actually pushed Rs and Trump to do stuff the last 4 years? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know what is more absurd, the Q stuff or you thinking it caused our current situation. Agree for the most part. But what if all of the people waiting for Saint Q to step in had actually pushed Rs and Trump to do stuff the last 4 years? They were pushing. They were leading Trump in the direction to take action. The problem was that we all underestimated the amount corruption and pushback we would encounter. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:44:34 AM EDT
[#34]
Quite frankly, I'm pretty sure Q is a lot more about spinning semi plausible conspiracy theory to undermine conservatives than anything else. It has been quite effective at it.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:47:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last paragraph makes some sense. The previous paragraphs, I am not sure that you understand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In my opinion, this "4D chess" "trust the plan" and Q anon stuff has done more to waste an opportunity than the establishment did during the Trump years. Can we please have honest conversations with ourselves now? For years many have been deluding themselves that there was going to be a final move to bring about Trump's agenda. This lulled people into a false sense of security, and encouraged them to inaction. To be honest, I think I was even affected to some degree. I know I didnt do enough, and I didn't really buy into it. I can only imagine how someone who was true believer now feels. I dont say this to make a judgement, just trying to state the facts. The reason it is so effective is that it appeals to basic human nature (which conservatives share in common with liberals). That is, the deep seeded desire to be taken care of. Conservatives imagined a knight in shining armor that would come to aid them be free. Liberals believe that socialism will take care of them so they can be more free. I know I am over generalizing here, just pointing out this delusion has deeply hurt us. The anger you are feeling right now, is really anger at yourself for believing in a narrative that is patently absurd. You have to save yourself by taking action, and it will become more costly the longer you spend denying that. I believe that right now we need to be talking to our state representatives and finding the federal circuit judges that will delay the inevitable unconstitutional Biden/Harris EOs. I think if we get enough states to recognize that fair and free communication shouldnt be taken away from someone simply for their political views, then we may be able to make a stand. Solutions will NOT come from a national level. Do NOT look at the RNC for help, or think that voting for a new POTUS will do anything. We are beyond that now. The last paragraph makes some sense. The previous paragraphs, I am not sure that you understand. It is possible. I just think that the bigger problem is that as a group, we shot ourselves in the foot with the "trust the plan" stuff. I just think that was the bigger problem that encouraged everything else that followed. But, I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:48:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I paid attention to the Saudi Purge thread early on, since that initial event had some relevance for an upcoming deployment. Like many threads in GD, it went off the rails pretty quickly. I'd check in on the thread when an event actually relating to KSA, MbS, the GCC, or something relevant to me occurred and I would see nothing relating to that event, or so far off or misinterpreted that it was useless for me. The Khashoggi "event" immediately comes to mind in that regard. While I think Q started as a troll that morphed into a PSYOP with some grift, the biggest consequence of Q was that it got people complacent by making them think there was some group of "good guys" working behind the scenes to help them. The crazier it got, the more it pulled in people who have fallen susceptible to conspiracy theories in the past. Here's a uncomfortable truth: no one is working behind the scenes to help you. No one. Worse than that, it rewarded "digging" without the responsibility of verifying facts and "speculation" without the inconvenient weight of testing conclusions. Then it stirred that vile concoction for years while lavishing praise on anyone holding a spoon. Anyone who suggested that rotten spinach might not be the best ingredient for a soup or that the entire pot was starting to smell was dogpiled and banished from the kitchen all while the cooks loudly promised that a gourmet meal would be served any day now. Clown shoes. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:51:08 AM EDT
[#37]
They're really fucking stupid and probably see Bidens win as "part of the plan"
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:52:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't go that far. It certainly does annoy the fuck out of people tho. The word declas or white hat makes me want to reflexively punch someone in the head until they stop moving. Trump got 11,000,000 votes than in 16. He got 6 million more than Obama did in 2008. What ruined MAGA was Pence. Democrats think men are women. It should not shock anyone that they would identify 54,000,000 votes as 80,000,000. It is pretty fucking gay that Pence would cuck to it like a little bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Q ruined MAGA. That was probably the objective, all along. I wouldn't go that far. It certainly does annoy the fuck out of people tho. The word declas or white hat makes me want to reflexively punch someone in the head until they stop moving. Trump got 11,000,000 votes than in 16. He got 6 million more than Obama did in 2008. What ruined MAGA was Pence. Democrats think men are women. It should not shock anyone that they would identify 54,000,000 votes as 80,000,000. It is pretty fucking gay that Pence would cuck to it like a little bitch. This line of thinking is why I felt we needed to talk about the phenomena of everyone waiting for the knight in shining armor. On Jan 6th it was Pence's turn. But where did that idea come from? How much power does the VP really have over the electors? Instead of spending Nov and Dec waiting for the hero the ride in, we should have been organizing with the state legislatures. I fear the it was too late when the EC met. This is something that is only clear to me now after it is all over, but didnt really occur to me before. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:54:00 AM EDT
[#39]
It's actually pretty mind boggling to watch a true "Q" person hang onto the hope.
I always wanted to believe, but hearing Q says this or Q said that...it played into being exactly what we wanted to hear for it carry much weight. I could be totally convinced that Q was a psyops to lull conservatives into a false sense of security. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:55:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't go that far. It certainly does annoy the fuck out of people tho. The word declas or white hat makes me want to reflexively punch someone in the head until they stop moving. Trump got 11,000,000 votes than in 16. He got 6 million more than Obama did in 2008. What ruined MAGA was Pence. Democrats think men are women. It should not shock anyone that they would identify 54,000,000 votes as 80,000,000. It is pretty fucking gay that Pence would cuck to it like a little bitch. How did Pence ruin MAGA? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:58:10 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Q is Ezra Cohen Watkins. Under Secretary of defense. Look up his history. It's a giant psy-op. Interdasting. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:58:28 AM EDT
[#42]
It's like flat earthers. It started as a bit of a subculture joke, and went mainstream, now people believe it.
Qanon has made a laughing stock of a large chunk of the right's base. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:00:35 AM EDT
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I saw a lot of friends into this Q stuff and started reading. There was a lot of crap in there that was blatantly false but a lot of dots could be connected to legitimate things. Just like a religion, there is the 1% that takes it to an extreme. The extreme got more and more people on board. One day my wife asked me if Hilary really wore human skin as a mask. Where did you get this info? My friend on FB......The surprising thing to me is the most hard Q believers were women. They are are all in on the IA now. Ladies, Insurrection Act powers were removed in the NDAA, please step away from the key board.
On a side note, I started asking questions of some Q people once I started reading the drops. We did learn more from opening the discussion than we ever did in Civics. We quit reading them a long time ago though. It was make believe world... |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:03:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Worse than that, it rewarded "digging" without the responsibility of verifying facts and "speculation" without the inconvenient weight of testing conclusions. I was trying to be nice about it, but yeah. With that said, I don't think ridiculing the average Q follower that did not profit off the scam and just fell for the lies is going to help change them into someone who can actually make a positive change in their lives. With that said, the hard-core conspiracy theory element with the Q crowd has shown they can rationalize any criticism (yOu oNLy gEt FLaK iF Ur OvUr TeH TaRgET). Those people will eventually move on to the next Pizzagate, John Titor, or whatever comes along. But there were a lot of people that fell for the Q troll/PSYOP that weren't in that fringe, and I hope they come back to reality in a healthy manner. I don't believe chastising them helps to do that. Just my opinion and all that... |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:04:48 AM EDT
[#45]
In my experience anyone that tells you to "wait for it" is nothing but a shyster.....Sort of the conspiracy theory version of "the check is in the mail".
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:05:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservatives didn't want to believe that all the institutions they supported during the Bush years would turn on them. Q was a way for them to believe that there really were "good men on the inside". Also the belief that one big battle would occur and fix everything is vastly more appealing than the political reality, which is that any change is going to be slow and incremental and involve boring shit like volunteering for some local campaign. Q reads like a Tom Clancy novel. The only question about Q is whether it was some grifter that got out of hand, or a serious psyop run by a NGO or government agency. I only say this because: "During a period where public confidence in institutions is collapsing and there are weekly scandals regarding the politicization of the intelligence community and military, get the demographic losing faith in said institutions to believe that the intel community and military is really on their side." Is essentially what Q was and reads like a textbook pro-government psyop mission objective. I firmly believe it was a psyop run by the Russians. As I said in another thread a few days ago, it's easy to get people to sit back and not work for change when you can convince them that "top men" are working on it in secret. It's the opposite of what BLM does - they create a false narrative of systemic racism to provoke people to action. Q created a false narrative that "things will be fixed" to lull people into inaction. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:07:45 AM EDT
[#47]
OP, follow your logic to the conclusion: We have only ourselves to save ourselves.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:07:53 AM EDT
[#48]
Kinda hard to "trust the plan" when we don't know what the plan is. Akin to belief in a greater power when that greater power can't be seen.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:08:07 AM EDT
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It's obvious that Q is/was bullshit, and as someone else already stated, a Psyop. One curious thing, though... why did the same tech giants that are eliminating Trump and anyone associated with him ban Q a few months ago?
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:08:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't go that far. It certainly does annoy the fuck out of people tho. The word declas or white hat makes me want to reflexively punch someone in the head until they stop moving. Trump got 11,000,000 votes than in 16. He got 6 million more than Obama did in 2008. What ruined MAGA was Pence. Democrats think men are women. It should not shock anyone that they would identify 54,000,000 votes as 80,000,000. It is pretty fucking gay that Pence would cuck to it like a little bitch. Ridiculous to put the blame for anything on Pence. To believe it's his fault, you have to believe that he actually had some authority under the Constitution to just ignore election results. He didn't. If Trump didn't know that, he's an idiot. Since I don't believe Trump is an idiot, I believe that setting up Pence as the bad guy was just another line of BS he fed his faithful to keep the illusion that "it's going to be fine, we have a plan" going as long as possible. |
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