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Posted: 8/2/2021 7:11:47 PM EDT
Build thread follows.
For those wondering, this took place over a period of three months or so (finished two weeks ago) and I was chronicling this on a woodworking forum I have been a member of for years. That's why the posts are worded the way they are. |
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So I have this space in the basement. Well, let me start by saying that I won't stage pictures of my shop or the area at all, and hopefully make some of you feel better about the conditions in which you work. My shop can't stay clean for more than 15 minutes, and neither can my house. My daughters have seen to that. In any case, here it is, along with the 48" entertainment center that I built for the equipment about ten years ago.
I want something bigger and better there. I'm limited only really by the access panel (the outdoor faucet is on the other side, and the panel is there after I had to fix everything the builder screwed up). Centering the unit and butting it up against the wall will let me have about 80" of width. That lets me get a 75" TV on there with a little room to spare. That's also helpful because I would like to do a "fireplace" down here, and by that I mean an electric fireplace in the cabinet. The basement, like many, does get cold, and it would be nice to not only have the ambience of a fireplace (even an electric one) but also the heat. I settled on this one: https://www.amazon.com/PuraFlame-Western-Electric-Fireplace-Control/dp/B01LA3VHHU/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=puraflame+western+electric&qid=1617843453&sr=8-3 Behind the existing entertainment center I have one outlet and a low-voltage panel with two coax and four ethernet. Based on my past experience with an electric fireplace, I've decided to run another circuit back there just for the fireplace. You can't, for example, expect to run a vacuum and the fireplace at the same time without tripping a regular 15A breaker. Fortunately, behind that near corner (where the portrait of my dear departed rabbit is) is unfinished space, so I won't have a lot of drywall cutting and patching to do. I came up with this design. It's pretty straightforward. As you can see, pretty much any surface in my house is subject to crayons, markers, or anything else my kids can get their hands on. The 4 1/8" dimension was chosen to house this speaker: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-S35-American/dp/B01LW8H3NX/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=polk+center+channel&qid=1617843764&sr=8-4 ...while also allowing about 5" on each side for things like remotes, an IR repeater (more on that later), the Playstation controller when charging, and random things my kids put in there. I fully expect it to be used for Play-Doh, markers without caps, legless Barbies, and other sorts of things like that. I tried to maximize the depth since the original unit being replaced was limited to the Onkyo A/V receiver that's in there - all others were too deep. I don't have any need to replace this one, but were I to do so I could have considerably more flexibility. Now, with the center channel and fireplace occupying the middle two compartments of the unit (indeed, being built specifically for them), the A/V equipment has to go on the sides. This means that to use them I either need an A/V IR repeater with regular doors, keep the door(s) open, or use glass doors. Two of these options at the very least mean the equipment will be generating lots of heat and have nowhere to go with it. I opted for an IR repeater and a heat exhaust solution. They are here: https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-AIRPLATE-Thermostat-Cabinets/dp/B00QFWWZQO/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=airplate+t7&qid=1617844082&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZGK6QS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The AC Infinity unit looks very well made and has a beautiful finish on it. I chose that primarily because its dimensions matched well and the ability to only turn on when needed (when the sensor reaches a certain temperature) is very useful. The repeater, on the other hand, is definitely Chinesium, and I knew that going in. I have no idea how well it will or won't work. If it doesn't, I can certainly spend more money and get a better unit. The repeater receiver, which is quite small, will sit next to the center channel in the top middle compartment. I should note that I use my computer in an enclosed cabinet, and when playing games or mining some useless cryptocurrency a lot of heat is generated. It gets warm but it appears to draw enough airflow from the gaps around the door, so I don't think I will need much more than what I have. I'll be using Blum hinges, which also offer a bit more offset from the face frame (and thus allow more airflow). Also, what's not reflected on the design is that there will be grommets on the sides of the unit (bottom/back corner) to allow the speaker wire, subwoofer cable, split HDMI, and whatever else to exit. This should also allow for more airflow from the outside in. Now that it's designed, we can start building. |
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I don't really do the whole SketchUp thing. Despite being in the IT field forever and having grown up with computers (starting with a TI-99 at the age of three) and using various graphics programs over the years, including 3D modelers, I never took to SketchUp. Also, going back to all of my schooling, I have been chastised my entire life for doing far too much work in my head. This means I am generally likely to consider and reconsider things in the middle of a design. One of the things I really, really, really don't like to do is waste wood. I do make a lot of cutting boards, and since I started turning the shorter scrap has a place too. But even so I try to minimize waste.
The side panels need to be 20 3/8". Technically, about 7/8" less, since I will glue them to the ends of the face frame for a somewhat continuous joint. This way the effective stile width looking at it from the sides is uniform front and back. But normally I just rip that small strip off and use it for cutting boards. I have a 13" planer, so if I were to do a 13" panel I would have 7 3/8" remaining. Add 3/4" for the depth of the grooves in the cabinet members, and then subtract 1/4" for space ball compression. That means I've got 7 7/8", which is remarkably close to 4" wide members. As it will be built in and butted up against the existing 3 1/4" baseboard molding, I chose 4" for the pedestal/base height since that would let me rout an edge and still have a flat mating surface for the existing baseboard molding. If that's 4", it would probably look good to have the side panel members be 4" also. Conveniently, I have more than a few 11" boards, which will let me get the necessary 4" and 6.5" pieces out of it for the cabinet members and the panel. I will have probably no waste after jointing and squaring, though maybe I'll get some super narrow strips I can use for cutting boards (because that's where all the scrap goes). The other consideration is that I have grommets to put somewhere on the stile to get wires in and out. With 2" grommets - and considering you've got 1/2" plywood recessed into the back and the panel into the front - 3" cabinet members would be pretty tight if it would even work at all. I'd like to center the grommet in the bottom back corner, and I think 4" will comfortably avoid hitting any other wood while also looking proportional. So the next step is going to be turning those 11" wide boards into the necessary 4" stock for the rails and stiles and 6.5" stock for the panels. While the glue is drying I can work on routing the cabinet members. I can also work on hunting down the plywood template that I use for removing the bulk of the raised panel material on the table saw, as either my oldest daughter put it somewhere or my neighbor mistakenly grabbed it as firewood. |
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OK, back at it. I don't have any incredibly high-end equipment and my wife and daughters can't exactly help me very well, so ripping the long boards into two narrower long boards wasn't the easiest. Plain old sawhorses with a random section of conduit set on top work very well as a support/glide system, so I ripped those two boards from an earlier picture into what will be the 6.5" panel halves and 4" rail/stile stock. There's some left over for the doors too.
After that, I started to cut the wider stock together (leaving just a shade extra - the boards were nine feet long, and this means that I could get all of the panel stock I needed from a single board if I measured carefully). Just a bit of math, cutting them together on the miter saw, and then to the jointer. As an example of "life happens," it turns out that I was getting a little bit more snipe than expected and the cuts weren't as good as I would have liked. I went through my jointer technique growing pains years ago, and while I'm still not the best I am much better than I was. Turns out the outfeed table needed a bit of adjusting, which I did prior to jointing the rail and stile stock. In any case, once the panel stock was jointed, it was time to glue them up. I got good uniform squeeze out and great mating surfaces, and despite all four halves being from the same contiguous board I did OK in terms of grain and tone matching. The glue line will still be visible and detectable, I think, but it will also blend pretty well to the untrained eye. In any case, with the glue drying I can go back to jointing the rail and stile stock. After a bit of adjustment these boards came out much better with a lot less effort. That doesn't matter much since they aren't mating to anything, but it's still nice to have the jointed tuned up. Woodworking is not my only hobby, and sometimes I get sidetracked doing other things. This week it was brewing beer (five gallons of an Irish-style red ale)... ...bottling two different one-gallon batches (Double IPA, which I don't like, and brown ale, which I do)... ...and a very quick project to turn a box from Booker's Bourbon into a lamp for the next project (the bar). It's a prototype, more or less, but it did work pretty well. The box is free (with the purchase of $90 bourbon), while the bulbs, sockets, and inline dimmer are only a few bucks (maybe $15 total). Using incandescent bulbs (these are 15W bulbs, intended for salt lamps and similar things), a fair amount of heat is generated. I am going to look into LED bulbs, though the dimmability and general color tone are not going to be the same. That's not a huge issue. In any case, they do look nice, and the only thing missing is some sort of concealment for the wires on the back. But back to the entertainment center. I've got the rail and stile stock cut (four stiles, and two pieces which will be two rails each). Squared and ready to go, along with the panels (which have been planed and trimmed on one edge). The router bits I use are Freud. I don't like to plane wood down for the sake of meeting some arbitrary thickness limitation, so I wanted rail and stile bits that could handle thicker stock. I started with cheap Chinesium bits, and surprise, they didn't work very well. They weren't "matched" by any stretch of the imagination, and what's worse they didn't seem to allow for any adjustment to fix that. So I decided I would try the "buy once, cry once" route and bought this Freud set: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZG7PXM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's been worth every penny. Sharp, minimal tearout, everything you want in a router bit. They are, as you might expect, perfectly matched. All of that is good. They even look good in the table. Once I do the profile cuts, I can cut down the rail stock to the appropriate dimensions and do the cope cut. They are all ready to go. It's probably not clear here, but as mentioned I do not like to waste wood so I was planning on maximizing the size of my cutoffs so I can glue them up and turn them or something. But one of the stock pieces needed to be run through twice, and my pressure was not identical (it never is) so one end of the cut was slightly larger. Clean, but larger. In any case, having an extra 8 inches or so to play with if I use that piece for rail stock, I can sacrifice the thin section. Once I pick the pieces, I cut all four of them at the same time, clamp, and flip to ensure the dimensions are as close as possible to exact. I always say that a miter saw is not a precision tool (because it's not), but that doesn't mean you can't do your best to get a precision cut. In any case, the stock is all cut and coped. One thing that might make things easier that I do is to use one of the excess coped ends as sacrificial setup to ensure the cope cut matches as well as possible. I always expect some sanding, but if you have stock of identical thickness it is not that hard to take what is otherwise a scrap piece, line up the cut, make a test cut, test fit, and if it doesn't fit to your liking just chop off 3/8" and try again. One of the other things I wanted to point out is that if you're doing rail and stile construction for structural panels (like these) you don't need to be super precise with the cope cuts. It's easy to trim profile cuts to final length. With cope cuts, it is harder, and if the edges will be exposed (like with doors) be aware that any protrusion of the bit's bearing from the fence will cause slight chamfer in and out of the cut. This means you will have visible gaps on the mating surfaces. This is fine here because all of these joints will be hidden, but will be more important on the doors. In any case, I can test fit the frames and measure for the final size of the panels. I think I might have to trim a tiny amount off the panels. No, by the way, I never did find my raised panel setup block, so I will have to make another. More to come hopefully later this week. |
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I'm aware it's been three months. I've done a fair amount of work (just ran the wire for the new fireplace circuit yesterday) and I'm actually almost done. Unfortunately, I got a little too aggressive with the table saw when making the relief cuts for the raised panels (front doors), and while it could easily have been fixed with a 15 inch planer I don't have one of those so I had to remake the panels. Not a big deal, but now I (again) have extra raised panels waiting for another project. This actually happened before - I intended to have these pretty heartwood/sapwood doors for my wine rack, but I screwed up (don't remember how) and had to use those on my wife's desk. Now I did the same. Fortunately, these panels are pretty large, so they can be trimmed to size for almost any other cabinet application.
Tomorrow I need to buy some paint so I can do the wall first. Off comes the baseboard (this is a built-in, after all), the drywall patch where I trenched for the wire gets sanded and textured, and then the wall gets painted. I had to buy a new keystone decorator insert for the low-voltage wiring, but the extender rings are in place and I need to cut the cabinet for the outlet boxes. I am not sure whether I will have time this week but the plan is (hopefully) to get it at least mounted. I have taken pictures along the way and will resume the build thread - while life happens, I at least remembered to document important milestones. |
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Good news - the project is almost done. I have the doors glued, but I need to add an edge profile, finish, and mount them. Then we're done. Well, almost. The IR repeater I had procured is...finicky. I am trying a few other solutions first.
The unit is mounted, the wall is painted (including edging around everything), the baseboard is reinstalled, painted, and caulked, wires are all run, new TV is in, fireplace is in, all of that. It needs doors and it's done. The problem with the IR repeater seems to be that it's unreliable and doesn't like to work consistently. Apparently there are single receivers available (so instead of receive and retransmit, there are IR jacks on the back of the two devices I need - AV receiver and FiOS box) so I should be able to connect directly to an IR receiver. No sticking a retransmitter over the device's IR receiver. Let's hope that works. It *looks* pretty now - very unobtrusive, almost impossible to see - but it doesn't work well. |
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Now there's a lot of equipment to move and a lot of wiring to run. That's boring and not worth pictures. Or at least that's what I'll claim since I didn't take any.
I will say that the IR situation required some tweaking. I purchased a simple extender here (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZGK6QS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1), which works by receiving the IR signals and retransmitting them to the device. You do this by sticking on a retransmitter over the device's IR receiver. Google is helpful in telling you where exactly that is. The receiver has an LED indicating it's receiving IR, which is good. The retransmit part, though, was not that effective. It seemed to be spotty. I needed two devices controlled - the AV receiver and the FiOS box. It turns out that monaural cables can act as IR transmitters, so I was able to run a cable from the above repeater's output directly into the receiver. This avoids the problem of retransmitting IR and the receiver works like a charm. However, the FiOS box, which also has an IR 3.5mm input, didn't respond to this. I had to buy a second extender for just the cable box. More money than I would have liked, but they both work like a charm now. In any case, I can go back into the shop, get the doors, and put them on. I had a buddy helping me that day. After that it's time to put the doors on, clean up a bit, and take a few final pictures. Here's the back of the TV, showing the grommets (in use) and the thermal exhaust fan. Looks sleek. Here's what's hidden behind the doors, and why it's much easier and cleaner to use a repeater setup than it is to leave components exposed. I don't have to hide the wires since they are behind the door. This is what you see instead, and the soft chatoyance of sapele certainly makes this much more pleasing to look at. Here's a closer shot of the front in natural light. It's very hard to see the IR receivers even this close, and the fireplace looks decent for being an electric unit. And finally, here's some detail of the raised panel sides. These are hidden by the current speakers so it's almost wasted, but they don't always have to be so someday it might be nice to see. |
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Very nice and beautiful wood grain! Excellent brew pot too. I haven't brewed in 15 years, but still have the fermenters and kegs.
I have used the Watco Danish oil on several projects and it is an excellent product. My TV stand box is made out of MDF. I wanted it to mostly disappear, so it is painted black. It is essentially a drawer box to store DVDs with a riser for the TV to sit on. I doubt I have any pictures of it, but it was probably the first project I used my Kreg fastener kit on. I had problems with my amp overheating (also a Denon ) and they make automatic variable speed fan boxes to sit directly on top of your amp. |
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Quoted: Very nice and beautiful wood grain! Excellent brew pot too. I haven't brewed in 15 years, but still have the fermenters and kegs. I have used the Watco Danish oil on several projects and it is an excellent product. My TV stand box is made out of MDF. I wanted it to mostly disappear, so it is painted black. It is essentially a drawer box to store DVDs with a riser for the TV to sit on. I doubt I have any pictures of it, but it was probably the first project I used my Kreg fastener kit on. I had problems with my amp overheating (also a Denon ) and they make automatic variable speed fan boxes to sit directly on top of your amp. View Quote The brew kettle has been worth it. It's big enough (30 quarts) to handle enough grain and water (and a sous vide) that I don't need to add water after the boil. No leaks or anything and seems very well made. My only complaint is that the temperature probe sticks out a bit, and although it's rounded and not at all catchy it has ripped a brew bag during the mash and created quite a mess. The Denon is new (AVR-X2700H) and replaced the ten year old Onkyo. My receivers have always gotten warm, but never overly so (or at least not that I've noticed). On the other hand, I've never put one in an enclosed cabinet, at least not during use, so I don't know how it will fare. The cabinet holding the equipment is somewhat spacious so there should be adequate airflow. My main concerns were the fireplace - I have no idea how much heat it puts off behind the unit, but it is supposed to blow all of it out the front - and the PS5. I am actually playing Infamous Second Son now, which is more than seven years old. Even on the PS4 Pro it was almost unplayable since the fan would absolutely scream when it was in use. I haven't noticed any heat issues yet - the fan is set to come on at 85 degrees and I don't think it's come on once. I imagine something like gaming in the winter with the fireplace on will test it, but so far I haven't had any heat issues. I have a similar fan (designed as a register booster) in my computer desk. I originally built it with just grates allowing for some airflow, but once I started mining that couldn't keep up. In an enclosed cabinet it got very hot, and playing things like Far Cry (known to be graphically intensive) would cause the cabinet to get very hot. It's got similar construction (door gap for air intake on the front along with two grommets on the back) but the AC Infinity keeps the ambient internal temperature between 95 and 100 most of the time. That is to say it works very well for its intended purpose. |
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My last 3 Denon overheated in open conditioned air. We rock it pretty hard sometimes and Top Gun plays at full volume on occasion.
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Wow! Nice work and a big plus for non staged shop photos. Clean shops and clear benches with tools on pegboard are for show.
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was I the only one freaking out until the end about the pocket holes? lol... I kept thinking to myself, Hes.... He's going cover those up right? and BAM fireplace... Awesome work bud..
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Quoted: was I the only one freaking out until the end about the pocket holes? lol... I kept thinking to myself, Hes.... He's going cover those up right? and BAM fireplace... Awesome work bud.. View Quote Of course I'm going to cover them. I'm not uncivilized. Even when hidden if there's a chance you could touch it I use plugs. There's no chance I'd ever consider them appearance grade. I know Kreg advertises them as such but unless you have a 30 flute drill bit with a 16000 RPM drill you aren't going to get clean enough holes for that. I won't say it's impossible, but it's impossible. |
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