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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:19:58 PM EDT
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More and more evidence that several antifa/blm agent provocateurs infiltrated the protest on behalf of CNN and democrats to create the narrative of "insurrection" before democrats impeached Trump a second time.
Ashli Babbit looks to be a casualty of the democrats' plan to quell the riots after they incited them. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:23:54 PM EDT
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And in other news ............ water is still wet.
This is not the least bit surprising to me. Tons of evidence from the real world supports it. Yes there were some of our folks tangled up in the mix, like that stupid bitch realtor from North Texas who should have known not to go in, but the overwhelming majority were leftist agitators. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And in other news ............ water is still wet. This is not the least bit surprising to me. Tons of evidence from the real world supports it. Yes there were some of our folks tangled up in the mix, like that stupid bitch realtor from North Texas who should have known not to go in, but the overwhelming majority were leftist agitators. You know I don't really understand people on this forum. Do you or do you not believe there was fraud in this election, which was ignored at every level and branch of government? If so, then what do you believe is the appropriate response to an entirely fraudulent government being installed? This is why "conservatives" will never win in this country: they let their opponents define the rules, they witness their opponents break the rules time and again, and they are for whatever reason bound to always follow the rules. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:26:47 PM EDT
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That is no surprise. What I want to know is who coordinated them and the capitol police who let them in.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:27:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More and more evidence that several antifa/blm agent provocateurs infiltrated the protest on behalf of CNN and democrats to create the narrative of "insurrection" before democrats impeached Trump a second time. Ashli Babbit looks to be a casualty of the democrats' plan to quell the riots after they incited them. And it’s not going to stop. They will appear to be right wing conservative/ Trump supporters and cause any rallies or protests to turn violent. The MSM will be right there streaming it from within. Question is how do we separate them from us when we are censored? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is no surprise. What I want to know is who coordinated them and the capitol police who let them in. Be prepared to fight like hell for this kind of information. The prosecutor cane out and said "there was no plan". So the cover up begins.... |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:29:25 PM EDT
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And not a mention on MSM. Doesn't fit the narrative.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:31:17 PM EDT
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Treason and insurrection have different interpretations depending on who is reporting, who is in power and who ultimately wins the conflict.
Both sides are fighting for legitimacy. Keep this in mind when calling out our own. Many people historically were traitors until all of a sudden when they became Patriots. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And it’s not going to stop. They will appear to be right wing conservative/ Trump supporters and cause any rallies or protests to turn violent. The MSM will be right there streaming it from within. Question is how do we separate them from us when we are censored? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: More and more evidence that several antifa/blm agent provocateurs infiltrated the protest on behalf of CNN and democrats to create the narrative of "insurrection" before democrats impeached Trump a second time. Ashli Babbit looks to be a casualty of the democrats' plan to quell the riots after they incited them. And it’s not going to stop. They will appear to be right wing conservative/ Trump supporters and cause any rallies or protests to turn violent. The MSM will be right there streaming it from within. Question is how do we separate them from us when we are censored? Now that we know this is going on, we can inform others to BOLO and counter them. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:33:51 PM EDT
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I have NEVER been so SURPRISED IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why "conservatives" will never win in this country: they let their opponents define the rules, they witness their opponents break the rules time and again, and they are for whatever reason bound to always follow the rules. Preach. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:35:39 PM EDT
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En-volve.com credibility is pretty much zero, it's why we get accused of passing around fake news. I'll wait for someone more credible to pick up on it
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:37:34 PM EDT
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Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead".
If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:37:43 PM EDT
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So rudy released something he claims is a tweet by this other guy, and rudys tweet has been taken down.
Does anybody have the original text anywhere? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:38:05 PM EDT
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I bet they will cover that tonight on ABC News.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:38:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know I don't really understand people on this forum. Do you or do you not believe there was fraud in this election, which was ignored at every level and branch of government? If so, then what do you believe is the appropriate response to an entirely fraudulent government being installed? This is why "conservatives" will never win in this country: they let their opponents define the rules, they witness their opponents break the rules time and again, and they are for whatever reason bound to always follow the rules. Someone else mentioned in another thread, conservatives being so hung up on what's right, fair, and by the rules. To the point that we will stand along the burial pits we have had to dig, facing our executioners, and asking them "Why is this OK for you, but not for us?" |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:38:51 PM EDT
[#17]
Anyone who actually looked at the videos would know this.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:39:31 PM EDT
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They bring “journalists” with them to purposely run cover for them.
https://quillette.com/2019/05/29/its-not-your-imagination-the-journalists-writing-about-antifa-are-often-their-cheerleaders/ |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:39:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More and more evidence that several antifa/blm agent provocateurs infiltrated the protest on behalf of CNN and democrats to create the narrative of "insurrection" before democrats impeached Trump a second time. Ashli Babbit looks to be a casualty of the democrats' plan to quell the riots after they incited them. Yep. I saw a video of Ashli Babbit being dragged by her hair into the captial building. Wait, no I didnt. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to how they handle protestors, with them using the kid gloves on antifa and BLM while the right gets the national guard sicced on them, but lets stop pretending that everyone inside the capital was antifa too. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: En-volve.com credibility is pretty much zero, it's why we get accused of passing around fake news. I'll wait for someone more credible to pick up on it  Analysis of Ashli Babbit Video Suggests Coordinated Actions—Interview W. Masako Ganaha | Crossroads Japanese journalist details videos of antifa at the capitol. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:41:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead". If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. Exactly, but many here will accuse you of being leftist for telling this truth. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:41:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead". If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. There definitely were some antifa in that crowd. They probably had a plan that roughly involved tearing stuff up and hiding behind the Trump flag. If trump/conservatives are going to show up en mass, they better have a plan and a team before hand. I definitely saw a lady on the sullivan video trying to get him and his people to stop breaking windows, and I saw a guy telling the crowd to leave the cops alone saying they were just doing their job. Sullivan was definitely instigating. Full video.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:44:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: Brother Of BLM Activist John Sullivan Tells FBI: ‘226 Members Of Antifa Instigated The Capitol Riot’ The brother of a BLM and Antifa agitator caught in video inside the Capitol during the protest is speaking out and snitching on his brother to the FBI, claiming that hundreds of members of Antifa were involved in a coordinated attack on the Capitol. The Sullivan brothers are quite a pair. The adopted sons of retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Kevin J. Sullivan, John and James have been on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum since the George Floyd video was released last spring. And both have built reputations of being provocateurs with John helping Antifa and Black Lives Matter while James works closely with the Proud Boys. John Sullivan was arrested in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the President’s second impeachment hearings in Congress. Rudy Giuliani tweeted about this and Twitter straight deleted his Tweet, apparently it ruins their narrative that Trump "incited" the riot. It really isn't that hard to believe. Bottom line is I don't think our side is organized enough to do that kind of stunt. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:45:52 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It really isn't that hard to believe. Bottom line is I don't think our side is organized enough to do that kind of stunt. Yup you got that right. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:46:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know I don't really understand people on this forum. Do you or do you not believe there was fraud in this election, which was ignored at every level and branch of government? If so, then what do you believe is the appropriate response to an entirely fraudulent government being installed? This is why "conservatives" will never win in this country: they let their opponents define the rules, they witness their opponents break the rules time and again, and they are for whatever reason bound to always follow the rules. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And in other news ............ water is still wet. This is not the least bit surprising to me. Tons of evidence from the real world supports it. Yes there were some of our folks tangled up in the mix, like that stupid bitch realtor from North Texas who should have known not to go in, but the overwhelming majority were leftist agitators. You know I don't really understand people on this forum. Do you or do you not believe there was fraud in this election, which was ignored at every level and branch of government? If so, then what do you believe is the appropriate response to an entirely fraudulent government being installed? This is why "conservatives" will never win in this country: they let their opponents define the rules, they witness their opponents break the rules time and again, and they are for whatever reason bound to always follow the rules. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:47:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:50:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And in other news ............ water is still wet. This is not the least bit surprising to me. Tons of evidence from the real world supports it. Yes there were some of our folks tangled up in the mix, like that stupid bitch realtor from North Texas who should have known not to go in, but the overwhelming majority were leftist agitators. You know I don't really understand people on this forum. Do you or do you not believe there was fraud in this election, which was ignored at every level and branch of government? If so, then what do you believe is the appropriate response to an entirely fraudulent government being installed? This is why "conservatives" will never win in this country: they let their opponents define the rules, they witness their opponents break the rules time and again, and they are for whatever reason bound to always follow the rules. 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:50:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:51:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is no surprise. What I want to know is who coordinated them and the capitol police who let them in. Pelosi ? she has the power and the contacts |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNewsweek and FBI.............  Yes there were Trump supporters but to be told there were only a minor few Antifa types is folly. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:51:43 PM EDT
[#31]
So it’s ok to narc on family now?
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:51:49 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead". If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. You deserve communism. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I saw a video of Ashli Babbit being dragged by her hair into the captial building. Wait, no I didnt. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to how they handle protestors, with them using the kid gloves on antifa and BLM while the right gets the national guard sicced on them, but lets stop pretending that everyone inside the capital was antifa too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: More and more evidence that several antifa/blm agent provocateurs infiltrated the protest on behalf of CNN and democrats to create the narrative of "insurrection" before democrats impeached Trump a second time. Ashli Babbit looks to be a casualty of the democrats' plan to quell the riots after they incited them. Yep. I saw a video of Ashli Babbit being dragged by her hair into the captial building. Wait, no I didnt. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to how they handle protestors, with them using the kid gloves on antifa and BLM while the right gets the national guard sicced on them, but lets stop pretending that everyone inside the capital was antifa too. The cops removed barriers and didn't have reinforcements to stop the oncomers after the antifa/blm agitators broke through. Their inadequate preparedness is very suspicious as if they were told to stand down. This was made to look like an insurrection and the security was almost inviting it to happen. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:53:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pelosi ? she has the power and the contacts Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That is no surprise. What I want to know is who coordinated them and the capitol police who let them in. Pelosi ? she has the power and the contacts Bingo |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I saw a video of Ashli Babbit being dragged by her hair into the captial building. Wait, no I didnt. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to how they handle protestors, with them using the kid gloves on antifa and BLM while the right gets the national guard sicced on them, but lets stop pretending that everyone inside the capital was antifa too. The BLM peaceful protests turn into riots and burning because of the crowd energy and smaller percentage of bad agitators, and lots of people who would not normally engage in criminal behavior get caught up in the moment. Notice the crowd size from peaceful protest and marching, to the highway blockage crowd sizes, to the actual looting and burning crowd sizes. A large percent of people go home long before it builds to that level, or flat out leave when they see it going bad. Do you think she was an instigator and agitated the crowd or got caught up in the moment when other people started instigating and agitating the crowd? In her case, I don't know but I wouldn't put it past antifa to instigate and agitate the crowd to get the results that happened. It could also be a bunch of right wing idiots that instigated and agitated the crowd and others that got caught up in the moment. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:58:20 PM EDT
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Man I just cannot keep up with this anymore....
Was it a glorious revolution or did we just get scapegoated by Antifa? Was Ashley Babbitt a hero or just someone who got fooled? Decide already so I know what to think. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:58:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cops removed barriers and didn't have reinforcements to stop the oncomers after the antifa/blm agitators broke through. Their inadequate preparedness is very suspicious as if they were told to stand down. This was made to look like an insurrection and the security was almost inviting it to happen. This. The lack of security for a known protest could not have been an accident. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead". If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. Nope. I'm all for taking 100% responsibility but if this was all staged by the authorities so that they could maximize the propaganda and label every Trump supporter a terrorist....no, I ain't going down like that. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Newsweek and FBI............. Yes there were Trump supporters but to be told there were only a minor few Antifa types is folly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Newsweek and FBI............. Yes there were Trump supporters but to be told there were only a minor few Antifa types is folly. Newsweek is only one outlet, reporting the same thing as every other outlet. But that isn't what matters. What matters is that before the FBI started their investigation, they had determined that it was all Trump supporters and ANTIFA was not involved. Sure, the FBI eventually found that there was no evidence of Russian collusion, and that "hands up, don't shoot" was a lie, but those were postscripts and to this day have never figured in to the narrative. The FBI is going after the Trump supporters for the Capitol riot, not ANTIFA. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:01:30 PM EDT
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At least the left didn't set fire to the Reichstag , this time.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:02:43 PM EDT
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It don't matter now . the game is on so just sit back and enjoy the ride
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:03:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Leftists: Trump sycophants caused the Capital roits.
Conservatives: Antifa did this. Truth: You are both assholes. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead". If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. It may or may not be "fake news" but the words of the brother of John Earle Sullivan are not worthy for consideration? Asking for a friend. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:08:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The BLM peaceful protests turn into riots and burning because of the crowd energy and smaller percentage of bad agitators, and lots of people who would not normally engage in criminal behavior get caught up in the moment. Notice the crowd size from peaceful protest and marching, to the highway blockage crowd sizes, to the actual looting and burning crowd sizes. A large percent of people go home long before it builds to that level, or flat out leave when they see it going bad. Do you think she was an instigator and agitated the crowd or got caught up in the moment when other people started instigating and agitating the crowd? In her case, I don't know but I wouldn't put it past antifa to instigate and agitate the crowd to get the results that happened. It could also be a bunch of right wing idiots that instigated and agitated the crowd and others that got caught up in the moment. Wasnt she shot right near the door to where congress was hiding and wetting themselves? She might not have been the tip of the spear but she was close enough to the front line of the action to where she just didn’t waunder up at the wrong place at the wrong time either. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:08:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Leftists: Trump sycophants caused the Capital roits. Conservatives: Antifa did this. Truth: You are both assholes. Antifa provoked the crowd and the capitol police enabled the crowd to "riot". Truth is....you're not looking for the truth. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It may or may not be "fake news" but the words of the brother of John Earle Sullivan are not worthy for consideration? Asking for a friend. Do you think brothers who are members of groups on the complete opposite ends of the political spectrum share their rioting plans with one another? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:11:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasnt she shot right near the door to where congress was hiding and wetting themselves? She might not have been the tip of the spear but she was close enough to the front line of the action to where she just didn’t waunder up at the wrong place at the wrong time either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The BLM peaceful protests turn into riots and burning because of the crowd energy and smaller percentage of bad agitators, and lots of people who would not normally engage in criminal behavior get caught up in the moment. Notice the crowd size from peaceful protest and marching, to the highway blockage crowd sizes, to the actual looting and burning crowd sizes. A large percent of people go home long before it builds to that level, or flat out leave when they see it going bad. Do you think she was an instigator and agitated the crowd or got caught up in the moment when other people started instigating and agitating the crowd? In her case, I don't know but I wouldn't put it past antifa to instigate and agitate the crowd to get the results that happened. It could also be a bunch of right wing idiots that instigated and agitated the crowd and others that got caught up in the moment. Wasnt she shot right near the door to where congress was hiding and wetting themselves? She might not have been the tip of the spear but she was close enough to the front line of the action to where she just didn’t waunder up at the wrong place at the wrong time either. Murdered to quell the "riots". |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:13:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Antifa provoked the crowd and the capitol police enabled the crowd to "riot". Truth is....you're not looking for the truth. So now the leftist are smarter than Trump supporters who cant tell they are being duped in a trap thats going to fuck all of us now? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump supporters are looking for anything to excuse their role in the Capitol siege. The silliest and most childish is, "Well, Antifa started it. We just followed their lead". If that's the case, Trumpers deserve to be manipulated by the obviously smarter leftists. It's not that simple and no one is excusing the non-antifa idiots at the capital. But lets say you are at a peaceful rally when some antifa asshole starts throwing rocks at the cops from behind you (consistent antifa tactice) and the cops wade into you, pushing and shoving and pepper spraying. The mele has stared and you dont even know why the cops "attacked" you. See how this works. Some of us had asshole trouble maker friends in high school and have experienced this on a smaller scale. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:13:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who actually looked at the videos would know this. |
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