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We need "looser pays" tort reform

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Everyone is always looking for "mah lotto payout" these days.

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The caller needs to be added to the lawsuit.

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If the pic in OP is the realtor, I can see why the whole thing was suspect. I've never had a realtor that wasn't dressed, at least, in business casual.

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I'm good with the lawsuit as well. Given that it happened in Wyoming there is a 91.44% the caller was white.   I don't think it unreasonable to expect a police department to announce themselves and ask what the people are doing in the house in this type of scenario.  The neighbor should be included for making a false report.

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For what?

You can detain on reasonable suspicion.  The complainant made a confirmed eye witness identification of the alleged suspect that was stated to be a prior recent named offender.  The officers used reasonable force for the apparent crime of an active burglary in progress.  They investigated, quickly determined the facts, and released the detained subjects.  They were professional and apologized  for the inconvenience.

That's how its supposed to work.

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Everything goes exactly as it should, and some GDers still want to find any reason to hate the cops

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I am going with good lawsuit, I think the neighbor should be added to it as well. What are the chances she is a middle aged white liberal women?

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I’d still buy the house (if it’s what I wanted) and make the neighbor who called the cops live in shame.

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So “see something say something” unless the something you see involves a POC.  Is that how this works?

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I would need to see body cam footage to form an opinion. I dealt with a cop 2 weeks ago who behaved like an enormous piece of shit for no reason whatsoever. We were at a comedy show with 3 other couples, waiting for one of the girls to finish using the restroom following the performance before exiting the venue. There were back-to-back shows booked and they were frantically pushing patrons out in order to seat for the next performance. The usher told us we needed to leave immediately so that those waiting outside could be seated. I politely explain that we would leave as soon as she exits the bathroom, and that it would be rude to leave her alone in a crowd instead of waiting for her.

He then calls a cop over, I give him the same calm explanation, and this guy proceeds to try & get up in my face "Yeah, look at the lawyer over here (not a lawyer btw) trying to cause a problem. Blah, blah, blah, etc, etc." Dude was super rude & aggressive, clearly trying to instigate a fight for no reason. Keep in mind I was dressed up in a sports coat at a nice venue, imagine how he treats everyone else. Pissed me off enough that I considered filing a complaint, but based on his attitude I can only assume this type of behavior is tolerated within the department.

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The real estate agent, Eric Brown, was showing a home to his client, Roy Thorne, and his 15-year-old son, Samuel, on Aug. 1, when police, responding to a neighbor's call, showed up at the house, ordered those inside to leave with their hands in the air and handcuffed them.

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They were all released soon after.

The lawsuit, filed Oct. 1 in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan, seeks unspecified damages on five counts, claiming six police officers violated the plaintiffs' civil rights, including unlawful detainment and excessive force, as well as violations of equal protection. Other counts include assault and battery, false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

The city of Wyoming, the six officers involved, and the police chief are all named as defendants.

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The lawsuit stems from an incident on Aug. 1, when a neighbor called authorities reporting that a suspect arrested at the property a week prior for unlawful entry had returned to the scene in the same car, according to a timeline previously released by the Wyoming Department of Public Safety.

In audio of the call released by Wyoming police in August, the caller is heard telling dispatch that a "young Black man" had been arrested at the house the week before. Police said it was a different caller from the initial incident, but "the caller was aware of the previous arrest and had seen the arrested individual and his vehicle," and had been asked by the homeowner to watch the house.

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A Wyoming officer contacted the caller to clarify that it was the same suspect and vehicle from the previous incident. The caller confirmed it was, police said.

The caller was mistaken, however. Brown was giving Thorne and his son a tour of the home after scheduling the visit online the day before, Brown would explain to the officers, according to body camera footage released by police.

Footage captured by police dashcams and body cameras showed the officers arriving and ordering the three out of the house with their hands in the air. They left the home one by one, following the officers' orders. They were each handcuffed, and Thorne and his teenage son were briefly placed in the back seats of separate patrol vehicles.

All three were released without incident after Brown explained that he was a real estate agent. Officers are heard in the footage explaining that the house had been broken into the week before, acknowledging this appeared to be a "misunderstanding." The officers removed the handcuffs from Thorne and his son and are heard apologizing.

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The lawsuit attributes the way the plaintiffs were treated to the fact they are Black, saying, "Had the Plaintiffs not been African American men, they would not have been held at gun point, would not have been detained, and would not have been handcuffed."

Two officers unholstered their firearms during the incident, the Wyoming police said previously, noting that this is standard protocol when officers respond to a "reported home invasion in progress with multiple individuals inside a home."

Additionally, the lawsuit claims the officers had evidence that neither Brown, Thorne or his son were the individual that had been arrested the week before because their cars and their license plates did not match the previous suspect's.

In August, the Wyoming Department of Public Safety said it had conducted an internal review and concluded that "race played no role in our officers' treatment of the individuals, and our officers responded appropriately."

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https://www.wvtm13.com/article/black-real-estate-agent-and-his-black-clients-file-lawsuit-after-being-handcuffed-by-police/37916225

This is going to get kicked. Same thing would have happened with white people.

This is what QI is for.

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pay for what exactly?

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What is reasonable suspicion?  What does it take to elevate that suspicion?  

Seems that if someone states they are a realtor and offers a business card then maybe one could holster their weapons and hold off a moment on the handcuffs.

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Look who's pretending to be concerned because it's another chance to hate on cops...

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What is reasonable suspicion?  What does it take to elevate that suspicion?  

Seems that if someone states they are a realtor and offers a business card then maybe one could holster their weapons and hold off a moment on the handcuffs.

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Sounds to me like the police did their jobs and were careful to verify the information with the complainant. That’s who needs to be sued.

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The dumb racist neighbor started the whole mess by repeatedly making false statements to 911.  The officers were going off the information that same person who broke into the house is back.  They could have noticed there were 2 cars there instead and 1 and there was no Mercedes like the caller stated, assuming the dispatcher passed that information along.  Instead they took the callers statement at face value and treated the innocent people inside the house like felons.  To their credit the police release the realtor quickly once they determined what the situation was, from the bodycam footage the realtor was in cuffs for about 2 minutes before being let go.  

Michigan does have a swatting law, which this would could fall under.  A caller making repeated false statements that resulted in a armed response by law enforcement.  

According to Michigan Penal Code Section 750.411a:For making a false report of an emergency, a person could be charged with a misdemeanor and fined $10,000. Lawmakers have estimated that is what it costs the police department to respond to a crisis like this.