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Posted: 4/12/2019 6:48:50 AM EDT
So the scientists compiled an image of super massive blackholes in other galaxys
Why didnt they just focus on the milky way, that would seem to be mind boggling easier? (yes i realise that they are in fact showing the event horizon)  
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Posted: 4/12/2019 6:49:57 AM EDT
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I believe they did, however there is so much matter between us and our black hole that the picture isn't as clear. Also I think the milky ways black holes outgas jet is pointing nearly directly at us, contributing to the difficulty in seeing it.
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Posted: 4/12/2019 6:57:26 AM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme?
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Posted: 4/12/2019 7:00:51 AM EDT
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Scott Manley explains it very well why:
 4 Billion Solar Mass Black Hole in M87 - Event Horizon Telescope |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 7:09:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWatching that helped me to realize how truly stupid I am. Thanks
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Posted: 4/12/2019 7:17:57 AM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? 
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:05:32 AM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? I stepped into 4chan a couple of times due to threads here, and quickly regretted it. I’m a bit... boring like that. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:12:51 AM EDT
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LOL....I'd put more credence in Sasquatch pics than something brought to us by the same crowd that can't figure out if Pluto is a planet or not.
Oh look, we took a potato pic of a black hole.....Where's our funding? Seems legit. 
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:14:29 AM EDT
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So the scientists compiled an image of super massive blackholes in other galaxys Why didnt they just focus on the milky way, that would seem to be mind boggling easier? (yes i realise that they are in fact showing the event horizon) https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F8C9/production/_106398636_mediaitem106398635.jpg |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:15:05 AM EDT
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Isn't it not even a real photo? It's generated based on radiation data from multiple sources.
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:15:37 AM EDT
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The black hole the image is from is so much larger than the milky way black hole that they appear relatively the same size.
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:16:23 AM EDT
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LOL....I'd put more credence in Sasquatch pics than something brought to us by the same crowd that can't figure out if Pluto is a planet or not. Oh look, we took a potato pic of a black hole.....Where's our funding? Seems legit. We have 23 planets with another likely 20. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:17:04 AM EDT
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considering arfcom is all about MOA accuracy, you'd think everyone here would already know the concept.
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:17:11 AM EDT
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Isn't it not even a real photo? It's generated based on radiation data from multiple sources. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:24:58 AM EDT
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 Highlander - Why does the sun come up? |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:26:19 AM EDT
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You do know that photos are based on radiation data, from multiple sources. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't it not even a real photo? It's generated based on radiation data from multiple sources. 
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:30:49 AM EDT
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What round for black hole?
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:31:17 AM EDT
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Short version - the one they took a picture of was easier to see and image because of how much larger it is, even though it is a lot farther away.
It's still super super tiny and hard to resolve in any detail, which is why the picture looks like ass. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:34:48 AM EDT
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It's a false-color image of data at 1.3mm wavelength (230 GHz). We can't "see" thay frequency, so the data was processed to create an image we can interpret. Brighter = higher energy = more photons coming towards us.
The color chosen (orange) is completely arbitrary. 
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:39:45 AM EDT
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You can hide your weed in there
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:42:43 AM EDT
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What round for black hole? |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:42:46 AM EDT
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230 GHz (wavelength 1.3mm) on a chart showing where it is in respect to visible light:
230 GHz = 2.3x10E11 Hz (just to the right of the line between microwave and infrared in the above chart) |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:46:32 AM EDT
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Im pretty sure thats just a picture of a flashlight crammed where flashlights don't belong.
Black hole my ass. 
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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:53:39 AM EDT
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So the scientists compiled an image of super massive blackholes in other galaxys Why didnt they just focus on the milky way, that would seem to be mind boggling easier? (yes i realise that they are in fact showing the event horizon) https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F8C9/production/_106398636_mediaitem106398635.jpg There's too much stuff in the way to see it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:04:28 AM EDT
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You do know that photos are based on radiation data, from multiple sources. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:06:32 AM EDT
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Don't you think it's relevant to point out that we aren't just taking a high-range DSLR, looking through it, and snapping a shot? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do know that photos are based on radiation data, from multiple sources. You can't just snap of shot of anything that far away. If you are trying to infer that the photo is fake, it is not. If you are saying that it is a compilation of data that was used to form an image to make it into a photo. Yeah, so what? As long as the data is sound, that is what a photo IS. While not as simple as the photos we take, it is similar in the final analysis. Is it using false color? Sure. But color is simply a construct in our mind to see difference wavelengths. So it is shifted into a range we can "see." Again, it doesn't invalidate the photo. It just means that if you ever find yourself approaching a black hole, it might look different than the photo does. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:07:39 AM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:11:31 AM EDT
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Much shit in the way
that is why |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 10:44:52 PM EDT
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Much shit in the way that is why Too much scattering makes for a shitty image. The path to M87 is much clearer in spite of being much longer, therefor much less scatter. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 10:51:18 PM EDT
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They also looked at the one at the center of our galaxy.
This one was just the first image to be released... and also likely to be the better of the two images due to it being so much larger in the sky than our comparatively tiny black hole. here this video explains it. 4 Billion Solar Mass Black Hole in M87 - Event Horizon Telescope edit... I see someone else also posted the video... it's a good video. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 10:57:12 PM EDT
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Isn't it not even a real photo? It's generated based on radiation data from multiple sources. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:00:57 PM EDT
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try photographing something that is black, in space and 26 whatever thousand lights years away. Little bits of light, here and there. And a whole bunch of noise.
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:02:09 PM EDT
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You do know that photos are based on radiation data, from multiple sources. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't it not even a real photo? It's generated based on radiation data from multiple sources. Just like CT scans, or MRI images. Just because they weren't taken within the visible spectrum doesn't mean they aren't 'actual' images. They are merely 'actual images' that have been re-mapped into a spectrum that we can see in our tiny visual bandwidth. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:21:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:21:45 PM EDT
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LOL....I'd put more credence in Sasquatch pics than something brought to us by the same crowd that can't figure out if Pluto is a planet or not. Oh look, we took a potato pic of a black hole.....Where's our funding? Seems legit. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:49:05 PM EDT
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Universe’s prison wallet.
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:52:02 PM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? 
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:53:45 PM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:57:04 PM EDT
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? 
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Posted: 4/13/2019 12:17:52 AM EDT
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No, arfcom is as deep into the crazy as I like to go. I stepped into 4chan a couple of times due to threads here, and quickly regretted it. I’m a bit... boring like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The more pertinent question is, why have I yet to see a parody image based on the goatse.cs meme? I stepped into 4chan a couple of times due to threads here, and quickly regretted it. I’m a bit... boring like that.
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Posted: 4/13/2019 12:28:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2019 12:30:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2019 8:03:45 AM EDT
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Don't you think it's relevant to point out that we aren't just taking a high-range DSLR, looking through it, and snapping a shot? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do know that photos are based on radiation data, from multiple sources. |
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Posted: 4/13/2019 8:27:30 AM EDT
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5 Petabytes of data... <faints>
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Posted: 4/13/2019 8:35:23 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_GVbuddri8
Veritasium explains it for us curious plebians. He also includes a simulated image of what Sagittarius A. (the one in the center of the Milky Way) would look like. 
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Posted: 4/13/2019 8:40:51 AM EDT
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 Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun |
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Posted: 4/13/2019 12:21:15 PM EDT
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This thread brings out the usual assortment, ranging from hopeless dullards on one end of the spectrum to some pretty bright folks on the other.
I prefer not to think about their relative abundances. |
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Posted: 4/13/2019 1:01:39 PM EDT
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From what I heard the Russians don't translate the term "black hole" because it translates a bit too literally.
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Posted: 4/13/2019 1:30:28 PM EDT
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LOL....I'd put more credence in Sasquatch pics than something brought to us by the same crowd that can't figure out if Pluto is a planet or not. Oh look, we took a potato pic of a black hole.....Where's our funding? Seems legit. |
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Posted: 4/13/2019 1:45:50 PM EDT
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Don't you think it's relevant to point out that we aren't just taking a high-range DSLR, looking through it, and snapping a shot? |
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Posted: 4/13/2019 1:52:47 PM EDT
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It's a false-color image of data at 1.3mm wavelength (230 GHz). We can't "see" thay frequency, so the data was processed to create an image we can interpret. Brighter = higher energy = more photons coming towards us. The color chosen (orange) is completely arbitrary. https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/m87_black_hole_size_comparison_2x.png |
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