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Posted: 7/31/2019 8:03:28 AM EDT
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I dont think there is just one solid item to prove it.
In the thread that helped start this forum theres tons of videos, of encounters. Photos etc. Granted , its 76 pages of evidence, purse swinging, picture/video evidence and general ribbing/joking. But honestly a lot of good examples are buried in there. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:56:14 AM EDT
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They don't exist.
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:29:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:36:43 AM EDT
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The best evidence is the evidence you find yourself. The well is so polluted that genuine evidence is lost among the sea of bullshit.
For me the gold standard is the Patterson film. It was created in a time where the footage couldn’t be digitally altered. It is either a man in a suit or a real creature. This has been studied 6 ways to Sunday and it still stands as authentic to any reasonable person who isn’t in the never Bigfoot camp. The guy who tried to claim he was in the costume was a fake and can be easily proven to be a fraud based on his anatomy. His height, the ratio of arm to leg length, and the angles of his stride. Furthermore we have methods to digitally enhance that footage that show much more detail including muscle articulations not consistent with a man in a suit. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:58:57 AM EDT
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The three sightings of the missing toe one in the Pacific Northwest as documented in Hunt for the Skinwalker by George Knapp.
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Posted: 7/31/2019 11:06:24 AM EDT
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None.
If they existed there would be trophies of them. Look at all the animals we've wiped out, or nearly wiped out on this continent. Does anyone think these things could hide so well that no hunter would have ever shot/killed one? No remains would have been found (they may be big, but what the hell can stand up to a big brown bear when it's hungry or pissed?) The Indians used the hides off every big, tough, mean critter in North America for blankets or clothes. Does anyone think the Indians would have been anymore afraid of hunting a bigfoot than a big grizzly or brown bear? The Eskimos in Alaska/Canada killed polar bears before they had guns? What's bigger, meaner, tougher to kill than a big bear? |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 11:08:06 AM EDT
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They don't exist. Not some BS coast to coast moonbat video or some dog hair from a barbed wire fence but the real thing. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 11:23:53 AM EDT
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The best evidence is seeing one for yourself. That may sound like a copout, but it's not. Seeing is believing.
I go with my ancestors on this also. Bigfoot are spirits that can physically manifest at their will. They are typically not evil or malevolent. They can do physical things and leave physical evidence. A body, bones etc? Good luck. Again, this sounds like a copout. But, I'm not trying to prove anything. My ancestors dealt with them far more than the whites did. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 11:42:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The best evidence is seeing one for yourself. That may sound like a copout, but it's not. Seeing is believing. I go with my ancestors on this also. Bigfoot are spirits that can physically manifest at their will. They are typically not evil or malevolent. They can do physical things and leave physical evidence. A body, bones etc? Good luck. Again, this sounds like a copout. But, I'm not trying to prove anything. My ancestors dealt with them far more than the whites did. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 11:51:14 AM EDT
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People sometimes see things they don't understand. It's not proof of anything but it's only human nature to try any come up with some kind of explanation. Proof is proof and for things like Bigfoot and ufos and the other stuff people on coast to coast ride books about proof is the one thing we never get. Excuses we get. Conspiracy theories we get. Proof we do not get. You know this. It's the long con and the big con in one neat package. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 12:11:25 PM EDT
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It’s also easy to dismiss anything and anyone, especially when you don’t have a context of what is happening. This subject is definitely not for everyone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People sometimes see things they don't understand. It's not proof of anything but it's only human nature to try any come up with some kind of explanation. Proof is proof and for things like Bigfoot and ufos and the other stuff people on coast to coast ride books about proof is the one thing we never get. Excuses we get. Conspiracy theories we get. Proof we do not get. You know this. It's the long con and the big con in one neat package. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 12:13:15 PM EDT
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So people who require genuine evidence these things exist are not allowed? Ok. Gotcha. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 12:40:57 PM EDT
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Lotta room out there away from the lights of cities and towns.
High-resolution link Side note: many of those paths of light are towns that sprang up along railroads. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 12:42:17 PM EDT
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So people who require genuine evidence these things exist are not allowed? Ok. Gotcha. I gave my explanation. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 12:42:26 PM EDT
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I'm not debating. See post #3.
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Posted: 7/31/2019 1:21:48 PM EDT
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Offered without comment (other than: I'm not a believer):
https://www.lex18.com/alleged-sighting-of-bigfoot-leads-to-shots-fired-in-mammoth-cave |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 1:39:32 PM EDT
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They don't exist. just because you saw astronaut steve austin beat his ass in the six million dollar man tv show when you were six doesn’t make him real  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 1:54:09 PM EDT
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I've never seen one. I don't know if anybody has ever seen one actual make the vocalizations that are attributed to them. But I DID hear that howling-screaming-growl one time! Don't know what it was, but I can not think of a single creature known to exist that makes THAT sound.
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Posted: 7/31/2019 1:56:44 PM EDT
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+1 just because you saw astronaut steve austin beat his ass in the six million dollar man tv show when you were six doesn’t make him real https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/EBAF9F6E-E38A-4B5D-9D54-363797BACE9B_jpeg-1037179.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They don't exist. just because you saw astronaut steve austin beat his ass in the six million dollar man tv show when you were six doesn’t make him real https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/EBAF9F6E-E38A-4B5D-9D54-363797BACE9B_jpeg-1037179.JPG So sure that so many people are making these experiences up. To what end? Because getting made fun of is so much fun? Sure. 
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Posted: 7/31/2019 8:55:48 PM EDT
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I’m in your boat OP. I want to believe, but highly doubt it.
The most unique evidence I ever saw came from the camera in the Dyatlov pass incident. I think it was the last picture developed. No reason for a hoax or fabrication. Many indigenous people in the high mountains of Europe and Asia believe in what we call the Yeti. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Outright denial and condescension. So sure that so many people are making these experiences up. To what end? Because getting made fun of is so much fun? Sure. There is none Everyone on the planet has a camera in there pocket. Every hunter I know has trail cameras, most know how to spot sign. There are no turds, dead bodies, bones, fur, or any other evidence I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy either. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:15:41 PM EDT
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There's an even more Mythical Creature we should worry about, The Moderate Democrat
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:27:23 PM EDT
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they assimilated.
I saw one at walmart just the other day. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP said " evidence " There is none Everyone on the planet has a camera in there pocket. Every hunter I know has trail cameras, most know how to spot sign. There are no turds, dead bodies, bones, fur, or any other evidence I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy either. " mangy yote....bear...bug..." Here's a pic from a camera in a pocket...just like you say everyone has... What is it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 9:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP said " evidence " There is none Everyone on the planet has a camera in there pocket. Every hunter I know has trail cameras, most know how to spot sign. There are no turds, dead bodies, bones, fur, or any other evidence I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy either. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:00:33 PM EDT
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PGF, especially the latest enhanced version.
The Sierra Sounds and the Freeman footage to a lesser extent. |
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Posted: 7/31/2019 10:02:34 PM EDT
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There is exactly zero physical evidence which supports the existence of a Bigfoot-like primate. In the age of iPhones and trail cameras there would be something more than the picture of a blur at 200 yards.
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Posted: 7/31/2019 11:10:14 PM EDT
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PGF, especially the latest enhanced version. The Sierra Sounds and the Freeman footage to a lesser extent. I am not going to demand too much evidence here though, I would rather keep my account. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:14:27 AM EDT
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Sierra sounds are just sounds. No video to correlate what was machining them. Hell a few of the sounds exactly like my old neighbors moaning Dalmatians. I am not going to demand too much evidence here though, I would rather keep my account. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Sierra sounds are just sounds. No video to correlate what was machining them. Hell a few of the sounds exactly like my old neighbors moaning Dalmatians. I am not going to demand too much evidence here though, I would rather keep my account. In 1978 the University of Wyoming conducting a study on the recordings and this was their conclusions. "Having analyzed a tape recording of purported Bigfoot speech using accepted techniques of signal processing, the authors conclude that he means and ranges of the recorded pitch and estimated vocal tract length of the speakers indicate that the sounds were made by a creature with "vocal features corresponding to a larger physical size than man." They also conclude that the tape shows none of the expected signs of being prerecorded or recorded at altered speed and hence diminish the probability of a hoax. If Bigfoot is actually proven to exist, the vocalizations on these tapes may well be of great anthropological value, being a unique observation of Bigfoot in his natural environment." There are other attributes to these sounds that I won't mention here, but I would say that you have a quality piece of evidence here. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:34:24 AM EDT
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OP said " evidence " There is none Everyone on the planet has a camera in there pocket. Every hunter I know has trail cameras, most know how to spot sign. There are no turds, dead bodies, bones, fur, or any other evidence I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Outright denial and condescension. So sure that so many people are making these experiences up. To what end? Because getting made fun of is so much fun? Sure. There is none Everyone on the planet has a camera in there pocket. Every hunter I know has trail cameras, most know how to spot sign. There are no turds, dead bodies, bones, fur, or any other evidence I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the tooth fairy either. There have been many physical articles of evidence collected, turds and fur included. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:39:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I gave my reasons above. There have been many physical articles of evidence collected, turds and fur included. 1) I have hunted all my life and never found shit. 2) There is absolutely no evidence. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:43:17 AM EDT
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I grew up in the pacific northwest, on the west side of the cascades... never seen any evidence of a sasquatch but there is some wierd shit in those mountains....
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:47:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The best evidence is seeing one for yourself. That may sound like a copout, but it's not. Seeing is believing. I go with my ancestors on this also. Bigfoot are spirits that can physically manifest at their will. They are typically not evil or malevolent. They can do physical things and leave physical evidence. A body, bones etc? Good luck. Again, this sounds like a copout. But, I'm not trying to prove anything. My ancestors dealt with them far more than the whites did. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:51:12 AM EDT
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The doctor that fucked up my hand surgery said he had tooth impressions in an orange rind.
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:58:47 AM EDT
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what? Ive got Indian in my blood also. but why would the Indians deal with them more than "whites"?.. how does that make sense? help me out alittle bit.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The best evidence is seeing one for yourself. That may sound like a copout, but it's not. Seeing is believing. I go with my ancestors on this also. Bigfoot are spirits that can physically manifest at their will. They are typically not evil or malevolent. They can do physical things and leave physical evidence. A body, bones etc? Good luck. Again, this sounds like a copout. But, I'm not trying to prove anything. My ancestors dealt with them far more than the whites did. Or however long "science" says it's been inhabited. Then, well.. some claim other races were here, hundreds of years ago.. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:02:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what? Ive got Indian in my blood also. but why would the Indians deal with them more than "whites"?.. how does that make sense? help me out alittle bit.. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:04:05 AM EDT
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I'm speaking of the North American continent. Over thousands of years. Or however long "science" says it's been inhabited. Then, well.. some claim other races were here, hundreds of years ago.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The best evidence is seeing one for yourself. That may sound like a copout, but it's not. Seeing is believing. I go with my ancestors on this also. Bigfoot are spirits that can physically manifest at their will. They are typically not evil or malevolent. They can do physical things and leave physical evidence. A body, bones etc? Good luck. Again, this sounds like a copout. But, I'm not trying to prove anything. My ancestors dealt with them far more than the whites did. Or however long "science" says it's been inhabited. Then, well.. some claim other races were here, hundreds of years ago.. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:04:36 AM EDT
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I get what you are saying now, thanks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The best evidence is seeing one for yourself. That may sound like a copout, but it's not. Seeing is believing. I go with my ancestors on this also. Bigfoot are spirits that can physically manifest at their will. They are typically not evil or malevolent. They can do physical things and leave physical evidence. A body, bones etc? Good luck. Again, this sounds like a copout. But, I'm not trying to prove anything. My ancestors dealt with them far more than the whites did. Or however long "science" says it's been inhabited. Then, well.. some claim other races were here, hundreds of years ago.. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:08:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every N. American Native American tribe has a word for Bigfoot. They have been dealing with them a lot longer than Europeans. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:34:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yea I understand the premise of what you are saying, and I know about the tribal myths and legends, passed down stories.... also heard the stories of our ancestors Killing extinct animals and shit.. and we still find bones and evidence of that.. but yet nothing, absolutely nothing to prove there is a sasquatch/bigfoot/ manbearape... or whatever you want to call it. no hair, no bones. no teeth.. no fossilized shit piles. nothing... why is that? and pretend like i dont believe in ghost stories or "apparitions" after smoking peyote... However, from a speculative position, I believe that we miscalculate the intelligence of these creatures. Just as we bury our dead, I believe that they have the intelligence to bury their dead as well. If you consider some of the observed behavior traits of Sasquatch, I would expect an ideal location that is inaccessible, uninhabited, dark and concealed, and elevated. Perhaps this is why we just don't run into those finds. Perhaps they push over a tree and placed the bodies into the root ball area. They might eat their dead. Several Native American tribes called them cannibals. Then you can get into the portal/supernatural possibilities if you are so inclined. EDIT: Your presupposition that there is no evidence is patently incorrect. That is an opinion you have based on your level of experience and knowledge. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:50:06 AM EDT
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That is a real good question and I don't know the answer. However, from a speculative position, I believe that we miscalculate the intelligence of these creatures. Just as we bury our dead, I believe that they have the intelligence to bury their dead as well. If you consider some of the observed behavior traits of Sasquatch, I would expect an ideal location that is inaccessible, uninhabited, dark and concealed, and elevated. Perhaps this is why we just don't run into those finds. Perhaps they push over a tree and placed the bodies into the root ball area. They might eat their dead. Several Native American tribes called them cannibals. Then you can get into the portal/supernatural possibilities if you are so inclined. EDIT: Your presupposition that there is no evidence is patently incorrect. That is an opinion you have based on your level of experience and knowledge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: yea I understand the premise of what you are saying, and I know about the tribal myths and legends, passed down stories.... also heard the stories of our ancestors Killing extinct animals and shit.. and we still find bones and evidence of that.. but yet nothing, absolutely nothing to prove there is a sasquatch/bigfoot/ manbearape... or whatever you want to call it. no hair, no bones. no teeth.. no fossilized shit piles. nothing... why is that? and pretend like i dont believe in ghost stories or "apparitions" after smoking peyote... However, from a speculative position, I believe that we miscalculate the intelligence of these creatures. Just as we bury our dead, I believe that they have the intelligence to bury their dead as well. If you consider some of the observed behavior traits of Sasquatch, I would expect an ideal location that is inaccessible, uninhabited, dark and concealed, and elevated. Perhaps this is why we just don't run into those finds. Perhaps they push over a tree and placed the bodies into the root ball area. They might eat their dead. Several Native American tribes called them cannibals. Then you can get into the portal/supernatural possibilities if you are so inclined. EDIT: Your presupposition that there is no evidence is patently incorrect. That is an opinion you have based on your level of experience and knowledge. EDIT Lets say that they do, bury them. we have evidence of all kinds of species, including intelligent mammals such as early man, etc. burying there dead and we still find there bones, fossils, etc, we even found that one guy way up on top of the alps, from the stone age or someshit, so there really isnt a place we wouldnt come across a jaw bone or tooth or something physically proving they exist in way that is not super natural, further more I think it would be great if it could be proved they exist. heck I believe in aliens, but is there really proof of them? (waiting for them to storm area 51, lol) |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 1:58:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how is my assumption incorrect, when there is actually NO evidence. so that is not an assumed opinion, that is a fact.... and yes I know that my opinion varys from others, and im not trying to be argumentative, I do like hearing the "otherside" of the isles opinion, but mine is not lack of experience or knowledge. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 2:05:48 AM EDT
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There will never be evidence if you reject everything that is presented. At that point, my only advice is to get in the field and find it yourself. That is the best evidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: how is my assumption incorrect, when there is actually NO evidence. so that is not an assumed opinion, that is a fact.... and yes I know that my opinion varys from others, and im not trying to be argumentative, I do like hearing the "otherside" of the isles opinion, but mine is not lack of experience or knowledge. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 5:57:42 AM EDT
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There is exactly zero physical evidence which supports the existence of a Bigfoot-like primate. In the age of iPhones and trail cameras there would be something more than the picture of a blur at 200 yards. See the above picture. Taken with a phone. Tell us what it is. Just because everyone has a "camera " on them, doesn't mean your getting HD pictures from them. That distance is roughly 100-125yards. With the cam zoomed. On a Samsung S7 active. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 8:25:28 AM EDT
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There is exactly zero physical evidence which supports the existence of a Bigfoot-like primate. In the age of iPhones and trail cameras there would be something more than the picture of a blur at 200 yards. im not trying to argue the mythical squatch is real but the guy has several videos including multiple face shots all recorded in high def and crystal clear. no shaky camera or blur at all. but just like we talked about in the big thread people come in here and say "not a single picture that isnt blurry. people have trail camera's and iphones" but then someone posts 1080p video's from that film and stills. Then the people saying why are there no pictures still say it isnt good enough and they need something else. Bottom line, there is nothing anyone can post on this forum that would convince someone who is not willing to entertain the possibility of its existence. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 8:33:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what about the Todd Standing videos that were recorded in 1080p? im not trying to argue the mythical squatch is real but the guy has several videos including multiple face shots all recorded in high def and crystal clear. no shaky camera or blur at all. but just like we talked about in the big thread people come in here and say "not a single picture that isnt blurry. people have trail camera's and iphones" but then someone posts 1080p video's from that film and stills. Then the people saying why are there no pictures still say it isnt good enough and they need something else. Bottom line, there is nothing anyone can post on this forum that would convince someone who is not willing to entertain the possibility of its existence. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 10:01:23 AM EDT
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Again. See the above picture. Taken with a phone. Tell us what it is. Just because everyone has a "camera " on them, doesn't mean your getting HD pictures from them. That distance is roughly 100-125yards. With the cam zoomed. On a Samsung S7 active.  
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Posted: 8/1/2019 10:05:21 AM EDT
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"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There's a large out-of-focus monster roaming the country side." -Mitch Hedberg
That always cracks me up. Guess ill start hiking with this from now on.
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Posted: 8/1/2019 11:54:18 AM EDT
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Sierra sounds are just sounds. No video to correlate what was machining them. Hell a few of the sounds exactly like my old neighbors moaning Dalmatians. I am not going to demand too much evidence here though, I would rather keep my account. Now, Scott Nelson's analysis of the recording lends credence to the theory that a large non-human primate with a vocal range outside of human capabilities made these sounds. However, Morehead himself cannot say that he visually confirmed the source. |
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Posted: 8/1/2019 12:15:55 PM EDT
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what about the Todd Standing videos that were recorded in 1080p? im not trying to argue the mythical squatch is real but the guy has several videos including multiple face shots all recorded in high def and crystal clear. no shaky camera or blur at all. but just like we talked about in the big thread people come in here and say "not a single picture that isnt blurry. people have trail camera's and iphones" but then someone posts 1080p video's from that film and stills. Then the people saying why are there no pictures still say it isnt good enough and they need something else. Bottom line, there is nothing anyone can post on this forum that would convince someone who is not willing to entertain the possibility of its existence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is exactly zero physical evidence which supports the existence of a Bigfoot-like primate. In the age of iPhones and trail cameras there would be something more than the picture of a blur at 200 yards. im not trying to argue the mythical squatch is real but the guy has several videos including multiple face shots all recorded in high def and crystal clear. no shaky camera or blur at all. but just like we talked about in the big thread people come in here and say "not a single picture that isnt blurry. people have trail camera's and iphones" but then someone posts 1080p video's from that film and stills. Then the people saying why are there no pictures still say it isnt good enough and they need something else. Bottom line, there is nothing anyone can post on this forum that would convince someone who is not willing to entertain the possibility of its existence. |
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