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Posted: 5/18/2022 2:00:33 PM EDT
For a basic Colt 6920, 16 inch barrel with FSB. Plan is to piggyback a spare RMR I have laying around. I’m sure this has been discussed plenty of times, but things change. General purpose carbine, go….
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Ive had the 31 and now have two 33s. The better fov and slightly higher mag isnt as nice as the 33's forgiving eye box.
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I went with the TA-33 just recently and I really like it's compact size and weight, but the best part is eye relief.
ETA: I had a 31 rco in the past. I am sticking to the 33. |
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Depends on what type of shooting you do. I went with the TA110.
-Battery powered, no tritium to eventually swap out -User adjustable brightness, no issues shooting into or from disparately lit areas -About 29’ FOV at 100 yards -excellent eye relief ETA- not applicable to me, but you can mount an RMR either forward or further back on this model |
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Quoted: TA31RCO Either of these. I prefer the TA01NSN with 77gr Mk262 for service rifle matches (the 500m stadia line is almost dead nuts on at 600y if you have the 100m stadia zeroed for the 200y line). I prefer the TA31RCO for a work gun. |
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Quoted: mine is a 31 or 33, I can't remember. It's a 4x fixed power scope that you can beat someone to death and then reattach to your carbine. All this "eye box" and such shit is just dandy, but you're really paying for the durability vs the usefulness of the optic since it's a fixed 4x. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/30714/Current_XM-2151112.jpg /edit: In before the "OMG HEIGHT OVER BORE" comments. I know. It's a range toy, actually, it's retired now. View Quote You’re fine. We aren’t doing cheek welds anymore. |
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View Quote So not what you have? |
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TA110 is unmatched and being illuminated you don’t need the RMR. If you can find that QD 5 screw LaRue mount then you’d be all straight.
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I’d lean towards an accupoint 1-4 or 1-6 over an ACOG, they’re about the same price. 1-4 can be had cheap.
Hated the RCO, eye relief was so short that under recoil, the scope would hit my glasses. Fuck that. I miss having the piggybacked red dot, but I’ve gotten used to the 1X with eye relief. |
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The 3X with the good eye relief is handy atop a carry handle.
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If you’re piggybacking and shoot NTCH I have a decent preference for a 31. If you don’t shoot NTCH (shame on you) or are extra weight conscious I’d go 33. Either way those should be your primary contenders. I like the 11 but it’s fairly bulky on a small-frame and I feel it really shines more on large-frames.
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Quoted: With RMR: ta31 or ta01 Stand-alone: ta33 View Quote I also tend to ascribe to this. I wouldn’t say it’s not beneficial on a 33, but the 33 is already a fast optic and it gains less from an RMR than a 31 which is a decent amount slower and clunkier for most shooters. On a 31 you gain a ton from an RMR, on a 33 you gain a little. |
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Quoted: I also tend to ascribe to this. I wouldn’t say it’s not beneficial on a 33, but the 33 is already a fast optic and it gains less from an RMR than a 31 which is a decent amount slower and clunkier for most shooters. On a 31 you gain a ton from an RMR, on a 33 you gain a little. View Quote Except for NV. |
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I also love me some TA44, but I think that one works better on funky Euro space gats.
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Quoted: Quoted: I also tend to ascribe to this. I wouldn’t say it’s not beneficial on a 33, but the 33 is already a fast optic and it gains less from an RMR than a 31 which is a decent amount slower and clunkier for most shooters. On a 31 you gain a ton from an RMR, on a 33 you gain a little. Except for NV. Yeah if you’re doing NV you gain a whole lot more though the RMR for sure. |
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there are 12 models of ACOG with 159 total variations. the three most popular models are TA11, TA31, TA33. ... TA31 best FOV and magnification. worst (shortest) eye relief. heavy and bulky. best for long-range applications. if you are going to piggyback an RMR this would be the model. ... TA11 best eye relief. great eye box due to large exit pupil. mid FOV and magnification. heavy and bulky. ... TA33 half the weight and smaller. great eye box due to large exit pupil. eye relief is okay. lowest magnification. worst FOV. toilet paper tube. best for close-range applications. midway between a red dot and an actual scope. ... TA45 gets an honorable mention because it is a small 1.5x ACOG with an astonishing 3.6" eye relief and 16mm exit pupil. tremendously huge eye box. MOD__MAG____OZ____ER__FOV__EP TA31__4x32____15.1__1.5__36.8__8.0 TA11__3.5x35__14.0__2.4__28.9__10.0 TA33__3x30____7.7___1.9__19.3__10.0 TA45__1.5x24__6.3___3.6__25.6__16.0 what's the difference between a TA01 and a TA31? the TA01 has BUIS bolted onto it. the TA31 has a fiber optic hose and uses the Bindon Aiming Concept if you want to use it that way. TA02 and TA110 use a battery powered LED. the variable illumination works much better for extremes of lighting conditions. like all other models, only the chevron is illuminated. |
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If anyone was looking for an acog PSA has them on sale right now $879 for a TA31F-G. Thats the cheapest ive ever seen them.
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I bought a TA31RCO for my 16" carbine with my Amex points. Put an RMR on top. Looked fucking awesome, I have to admit.
Couldn't adapt to it, no matter how hard I tried. Went back to my Comp M4. |
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Anybody recommending a TA31 hasn't used a TA33 or TA11.
Fite me bitches |
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I thought the TA31 was the coolest thing ever when I was issued one. In reality, it had already been obsoleted by the Schmidt and Binder Short Dot (the first really good LPVO).
Now I would rather have an Athlon or Primary Arms LPVO. Edit: in either case, get a Geissele mount and a reptilia ROF mount for the RMR. |
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Quoted: I bought a TA31RCO for my 16" carbine with my Amex points. Put an RMR on top. Looked fucking awesome, I have to admit. Couldn't adapt to it, no matter how hard I tried. Went back to my Comp M4. View Quote |
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Quoted: Anybody recommending a TA31 hasn't used a TA33 or TA11. Fite me bitches View Quote When paired with an RMR I have a strong preference for the 31 on ARs. I do have multiple 31’s, 11’s, and 33’s paired with piggyback RMRs, and while they’re all nice optics, I personally prefer the 33 for weight conscious rifles and 11’s on large frames. They’re all fairly interchangeable though at the end of the day on the spectrum of optics. |
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