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Posted: 5/18/2022 2:00:33 PM EDT
For a basic Colt 6920, 16 inch barrel with FSB. Plan is to piggyback a spare RMR I have laying around. I’m sure this has been discussed plenty of times, but things change. General purpose carbine, go….
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:01:29 PM EDT
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TA31RCO
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:06:08 PM EDT
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Fpni
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:06:36 PM EDT
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I like the TA01NSN but that’s me
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:06:55 PM EDT
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+1. TA31RCO-M4.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:06:59 PM EDT
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TA31RCO or honestly the TA01NSN...
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:08:41 PM EDT
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Ive had the 31 and now have two 33s. The better fov and slightly higher mag isnt as nice as the 33's forgiving eye box.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:08:50 PM EDT
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I went with the TA-33 just recently and I really like it's compact size and weight, but the best part is eye relief.


ETA: I had a 31 rco in the past. I am sticking to the 33.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:09:42 PM EDT
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I had a TA31F and wish I still did
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:13:08 PM EDT
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Still have mine, but my rub it’s a 2007 era model, would love to have one of the newer ones with dials instead of screw slot adjustments. Haven’t seen if Trijicon can retrofit
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:13:13 PM EDT
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Depends on what type of shooting you do. I went with the TA110.

-Battery powered, no tritium to eventually swap out
-User adjustable brightness, no issues shooting into or from disparately lit areas
-About 29’ FOV at 100 yards
-excellent eye relief

ETA- not applicable to me, but you can mount an RMR either forward or further back on this model
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:13:20 PM EDT
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Same here. I like the precision of actual crosshairs at each stadia point.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:13:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:14:08 PM EDT
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TA11 or TA110. Anything else is a bad choice.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:16:01 PM EDT
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mine is a 31 or 33, I can't remember.  It's a 4x fixed power scope that you can beat someone to death and then reattach to your carbine.

All this "eye box" and such shit is just dandy, but you're really paying for the durability vs the usefulness of the optic since it's a fixed 4x.



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In before the "OMG HEIGHT OVER BORE" comments.  I know.  It's a range toy, actually, it's retired now.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:21:56 PM EDT
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TA31H-G followed by TA31F-G.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:23:27 PM EDT
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Same here. I like the precision of actual crosshairs at each stadia point.
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TA01 master race.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:24:50 PM EDT
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mine is a 31 or 33, I can't remember.  It's a 4x fixed power scope that you can beat someone to death and then reattach to your carbine.

All this "eye box" and such shit is just dandy, but you're really paying for the durability vs the usefulness of the optic since it's a fixed 4x.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/30714/Current_XM-2151112.jpg

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In before the "OMG HEIGHT OVER BORE" comments.  I know.  It's a range toy, actually, it's retired now.
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You’re fine. We aren’t doing cheek welds anymore.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:24:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:32:46 PM EDT
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TA33
TA31
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Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:34:21 PM EDT
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RCO.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:35:48 PM EDT
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The ACOG isn't on the XM upper anymore.  I may have a use for it someday, but my 3x flip to side behind my Eotech works pretty well.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:37:00 PM EDT
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So not what you have?
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 2:59:54 PM EDT
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I agree. The 33 is the ACOG of choice for me.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 3:03:47 PM EDT
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TA110 is unmatched and being illuminated you don’t need the RMR. If you can find that QD 5 screw LaRue mount then you’d be all straight.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 3:06:10 PM EDT
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I’d lean towards an accupoint 1-4 or 1-6 over an ACOG, they’re about the same price. 1-4 can be had cheap.

Hated the RCO, eye relief was so short that under recoil, the scope would hit my glasses. Fuck that.

I miss having the piggybacked red dot, but I’ve gotten used to the 1X with eye relief.

Link Posted: 5/18/2022 3:06:43 PM EDT
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Miss typed. 31
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 3:07:35 PM EDT
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With RMR: ta31 or ta01
Stand-alone: ta33
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 4:07:05 PM EDT
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This is what I have on my 6920. I hit a chest size plate at 500 yds. using 55 gr. Monarch brass case  ammo 15 out of 20 times one time. And I am not that great of shot. The ammo is what really surprised me.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:38:31 PM EDT
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The 3X with the good eye relief is handy atop a carry handle.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:40:35 PM EDT
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If you’re piggybacking and shoot NTCH I have a decent preference for a 31. If you don’t shoot NTCH (shame on you) or are extra weight conscious I’d go 33. Either way those should be your primary contenders. I like the 11 but it’s fairly bulky on a small-frame and I feel it really shines more on large-frames.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:42:18 PM EDT
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I also tend to ascribe to this. I wouldn’t say it’s not beneficial on a 33, but the 33 is already a fast optic and it gains less from an RMR than a 31 which is a decent amount slower and clunkier for most shooters. On a 31 you gain a ton from an RMR, on a 33 you gain a little.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:44:38 PM EDT
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While the eye relief is good…the TA33 feels like looking through a dang straw…
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:44:58 PM EDT
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I also tend to ascribe to this. I wouldn’t say it’s not beneficial on a 33, but the 33 is already a fast optic and it gains less from an RMR than a 31 which is a decent amount slower and clunkier for most shooters. On a 31 you gain a ton from an RMR, on a 33 you gain a little.
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Except for NV.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:45:19 PM EDT
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I also love me some TA44, but I think that one works better on funky Euro space gats.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:46:40 PM EDT
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Except for NV.
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I also tend to ascribe to this. I wouldn’t say it’s not beneficial on a 33, but the 33 is already a fast optic and it gains less from an RMR than a 31 which is a decent amount slower and clunkier for most shooters. On a 31 you gain a ton from an RMR, on a 33 you gain a little.

Except for NV.

Yeah if you’re doing NV you gain a whole lot more though the RMR for sure.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:47:17 PM EDT
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I went with the TA-33 just recently and I really like it's compact size and weight, but the best part is eye relief.


ETA: I had a 31 rco in the past. I am sticking to the 33.
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This, was issued a 31, prefer the 33.
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:50:14 PM EDT
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Whatever they handed out at CIF
Link Posted: 5/18/2022 8:51:20 PM EDT
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Yep, love that setup with a piggy back rmr

Link Posted: 5/19/2022 1:44:28 AM EDT
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----- SELECTION

there are 12 models of ACOG with 159 total variations.

the three most popular models are TA11, TA31, TA33.

... TA31
best FOV and magnification.
worst (shortest) eye relief.
heavy and bulky.
best for long-range applications.
if you are going to piggyback an RMR this would be the model.

... TA11
best eye relief.
great eye box due to large exit pupil.
mid FOV and magnification.
heavy and bulky.

... TA33
half the weight and smaller.
great eye box due to large exit pupil.
eye relief is okay.
lowest magnification.
worst FOV. toilet paper tube.
best for close-range applications.
midway between a red dot and an actual scope.

... TA45 gets an honorable mention because it is a small 1.5x ACOG with an astonishing 3.6" eye relief and 16mm exit pupil. tremendously huge eye box.

MOD__MAG____OZ____ER__FOV__EP
TA31__4x32____15.1__1.5__36.8__8.0
TA11__3.5x35__14.0__2.4__28.9__10.0
TA33__3x30____7.7___1.9__19.3__10.0
TA45__1.5x24__6.3___3.6__25.6__16.0

what's the difference between a TA01 and a TA31? the TA01 has BUIS bolted onto it. the TA31 has a fiber optic hose and uses the Bindon Aiming Concept if you want to use it that way.

TA02 and TA110 use a battery powered LED. the variable illumination works much better for extremes of lighting conditions. like all other models, only the chevron is illuminated.
Link Posted: 5/19/2022 1:52:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2022 12:26:52 PM EDT
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TA31, ideally with an RMR stacked on top. I've got two of the TA31s, one is an F and the other is an RCOM4 model. I actually had the TA31 on an LE6920 upper for a while and then went to a 6921 upper. Nothing beats the compact size and huge FOV of the 4x acogs. People will complain about the eye relief, but this is really just a training and placement issue. Put the acog as far back as it will go on the receiver, and put your nose in the charging handle.

Link Posted: 5/19/2022 12:28:53 PM EDT
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Piggybacked RMR on a TA31 is best ACOG.

Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:47:04 PM EDT
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If anyone was looking for an acog PSA has them on sale right now $879 for a TA31F-G.  Thats the cheapest ive ever seen them.

Here
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:53:49 PM EDT
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I bought a TA31RCO for my 16" carbine with my Amex points. Put an RMR on top. Looked fucking awesome, I have to admit.

Couldn't adapt to it, no matter how hard I tried.

Went back to my Comp M4.

Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:55:53 PM EDT
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Anybody recommending a TA31 hasn't used a TA33 or TA11.

Fite me bitches
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:57:01 PM EDT
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I thought the TA31 was the coolest thing ever when I was issued one. In reality, it had already been obsoleted by the Schmidt and Binder Short Dot (the first really good LPVO).

Now I would rather have an Athlon or Primary Arms LPVO.

Edit: in either case, get a Geissele mount and a reptilia ROF mount for the RMR.
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:57:03 PM EDT
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TA-11 then the 31
Link Posted: 5/20/2022 5:58:32 PM EDT
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I bought a TA31RCO for my 16" carbine with my Amex points. Put an RMR on top. Looked fucking awesome, I have to admit.

Couldn't adapt to it, no matter how hard I tried.

Went back to my Comp M4.

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Link Posted: 5/20/2022 6:06:17 PM EDT
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Anybody recommending a TA31 hasn't used a TA33 or TA11.

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Link Posted: 5/20/2022 6:18:08 PM EDT
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When paired with an RMR I have a strong preference for the 31 on ARs. I do have multiple 31’s, 11’s, and 33’s paired with piggyback RMRs, and while they’re all nice optics, I personally prefer the 33 for weight conscious rifles and 11’s on large frames. They’re all fairly interchangeable though at the end of the day on the spectrum of optics.
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