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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:04:29 AM EDT
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Baddest dudes ever in my book!
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:26:19 AM EDT
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One of the mechanics at work was a South Vietnamese who went on missions with them.
He defected to the US when the US left. Never knew it until he posted a picture for Veterans day this past year.He is legit Very quiet guy,probably for a reason |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:27:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Baddest dudes ever in my book! Yes. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:33:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Baddest dudes ever in my book! Concur |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:38:50 AM EDT
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But many teams did carry another light machine gun, the Communist Bloc RPD ... SOG men also modified its 100-round belt to hold 125 rounds How? I'd love to shoehorn an extra 25% into my drums. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:51:02 AM EDT
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Never knew those mini granades were real. Looks cute. Would love to try a few.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:09:51 AM EDT
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I want some golf ball grenades now...
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:14:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:14:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:17:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 2:27:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OMG The Death Machine! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/251314/B6F46272-F1FD-4176-9BE7-06CCC387D71F_jpe-1361902.JPG I thought that was Hollywood stuff. Damn. 90lbs. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 2:42:15 AM EDT
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 It's a M23 armament system ammo box. Holds 550 rounds. Same as in Predator.  mark_backpack_60.m4v  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 2:46:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OMG The Death Machine! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/251314/B6F46272-F1FD-4176-9BE7-06CCC387D71F_jpe-1361902.JPG I read about this in Phantom Warriors,I think book 1. One dude had the pack and the other dude had the pig. So he says" we were connected like an umbilical cord,except we were birthing death." |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 2:59:38 AM EDT
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I read about these guys as a teen in Soldier Of Fortune. All bad asses unfortunately a lot didn't come home.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 3:03:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 3:09:55 AM EDT
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I'd give my left nut to be on Recon Team Arizona.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 3:11:08 AM EDT
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Whaaat... Medal of Honor recipient Bob Howard, for example, sometimes toted a compact, selective-fire M14A1 rifle, its barrel and flash suppressor chopped by 8" and a handgrip installed below the forearm. In it, Howard fired 7.62 mm M198 duplex cartridges, each containing two stacked 84-gr. Spitzer bullets with respective muzzle velocities of 2700 and 2200 f.p.s.. In effect, this doubled his M14’s output to 40 rounds per magazine. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 3:12:11 AM EDT
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That, ......was a great read.
 My hat is off to those who lead the way. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 3:23:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whaaat... Medal of Honor recipient Bob Howard, for example, sometimes toted a compact, selective-fire M14A1 rifle, its barrel and flash suppressor chopped by 8" and a handgrip installed below the forearm. In it, Howard fired 7.62 mm M198 duplex cartridges, each containing two stacked 84-gr. Spitzer bullets with respective muzzle velocities of 2700 and 2200 f.p.s.. In effect, this doubled his M14’s output to 40 rounds per magazine. Yeah that was a thing. What a fucking hardass running a 13" M14 with duplex ammo holy shit. God did indeed used to walk this earth. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 3:36:22 AM EDT
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Good to see Franklin D. Miller's picture included in the article. I stumbled across his book Reflections of a Warrior when it came out and have tried to educate myself on the subject ever since.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:25:56 AM EDT
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Very cool article
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:34:53 AM EDT
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We had an awesome thread on SOG a while back. I don't see it in my subs anymore tho.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:46:39 AM EDT
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 Warriors Behind The Lines |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:50:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd give my left nut to be on Recon Team Arizona. No love for @RTUtah? |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:59:04 AM EDT
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Needs more pics of Lauri Torni and his M2.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 7:59:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah that was a thing. What a fucking hardass running a 13" M14 with duplex ammo holy shit. God did indeed used to walk this earth. cool article duplex ammo kinda makes it like a shotgun?? |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:00:22 AM EDT
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I had no idea that the Gyrojet Handgun made it beyond the covers of "Guns and Ammo!"
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:01:45 AM EDT
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Interesting read.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:07:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://cdn.thingiverse.com/renders/ab/11/cb/5c/53/868f302a29a72a13afcca22e50524711_preview_featured.jpg It's a M23 armament system ammo box. Holds 550 rounds. Same as in Predator.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QagenzsK0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laqGgPWyp4kWow. There were times I carried 500-600 rounds of 7.62 link. It was heavy as fuck. I was young and in awesome shape, and I wondered why I was getting my ass kicked on the road marches. Then I looked up how much it weighed, to carry the pig and all that extra ammo. Something like 7 pounds for 100 rounds, plus the 23 pound M60. That M23 system must weigh like 50 pounds empty. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:07:32 AM EDT
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Gary Linderer's books are really good. I'll have to look at some of the others mentioned here.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:10:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: cool article duplex ammo kinda makes it like a shotgun?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah that was a thing. What a fucking hardass running a 13" M14 with duplex ammo holy shit. God did indeed used to walk this earth. cool article duplex ammo kinda makes it like a shotgun??  Project SALVO: M198 Duplex Ball Ammunition |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:16:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:16:48 AM EDT
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I had an uncle that was SOG.
Someday I’ll post his obituary. Grown men will weep. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:18:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:19:17 AM EDT
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Great article. Now I want a Gyrojet Rocket Pistol.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:21:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to see Franklin D. Miller's picture included in the article. I stumbled across his book Reflections of a Warrior when it came out and have tried to educate myself on the subject ever since. Its a good book. I scored Plasters photo book in almost new condition for $50. Jason Hardy lives near my parents and I hope to meet up with him next time I'm in town. 
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:23:51 AM EDT
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My wife’s grandfather was a captain with MACV-SOG. The two guys in the back are his Montagnard bodyguards.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:26:39 AM EDT
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The bad ass guy with the claymore as a necklace.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:29:17 AM EDT
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Quote Historythanks! kinda what I pictured in my mind when I read it a few minutes ago,, had never heard of it before |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:31:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whaaat... Medal of Honor recipient Bob Howard, for example, sometimes toted a compact, selective-fire M14A1 rifle, its barrel and flash suppressor chopped by 8" and a handgrip installed below the forearm. In it, Howard fired 7.62 mm M198 duplex cartridges, each containing two stacked 84-gr. Spitzer bullets with respective muzzle velocities of 2700 and 2200 f.p.s.. In effect, this doubled his M14’s output to 40 rounds per magazine. Imagine this with a barrel 8" shorter: 
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:37:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had no idea that the Gyrojet Handgun made it beyond the covers of "Guns and Ammo!" |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:40:10 AM EDT
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Very cool.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:55:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to see Franklin D. Miller's picture included in the article. I stumbled across his book Reflections of a Warrior when it came out and have tried to educate myself on the subject ever since. Thanks for sharing and just downloaded. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 8:58:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How? I'd love to shoehorn an extra 25% into my drums. Quote HistoryQuoted: But many teams did carry another light machine gun, the Communist Bloc RPD ... SOG men also modified its 100-round belt to hold 125 rounds How? I'd love to shoehorn an extra 25% into my drums. They would cut an existing drum and weld up sheet metal to It to expand capacity. Grind the weld clean and repaint flat black or green. This was also done with AK and AR15 magazines to make larger magazines. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:10:23 AM EDT
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I met a MACV-SOG guy last summer at a Goruck shooting event. I could have talked to him all day but only got about 10 minutes with him. He is still a bad ass.
I asked him what was the scariest memory was in Vietnam. He said they were in Laos and the NVA were so close they could hear them whispering. After the NVA moved on he asked his interpreter what they said. The interpreter said "When we find them, kill the Vietnamese and capture the Americans." He became a member of Delta and was on the Iran hostage rescue mission too. He is old and was still stomping around in the mud and rain with us while we trained on the range. He told me there are only about 14 SOG guys still alive |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:12:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:17:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I met a MACV-SOG guy last summer at a Goruck shooting event. I could have talked to him all day but only got about 10 minutes with him. He is still a bad ass. I asked him what was the scariest memory was in Vietnam. He said they were in Laos and the NVA were so close they could hear them whispering. After the NVA moved on he asked his interpreter what they said. The interpreter said "When we find them, kill the Vietnamese and capture the Americans." He became a member of Delta and was on the Iran hostage rescue mission too. He is old and was still stomping around in the mud and rain with us while we trained on the range. He told me there are only about 14 SOG guys still alive Not many at all. Vietnam was 50+/- years ago for those guys. Even the youngest ones would be in their 70s today. I find it interesting that there IMO is more interest in them today than ever. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:17:46 AM EDT
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Ost
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:21:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryPost Malone’s dad was a bad MFer |
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