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Posted: 2/21/2021 12:37:22 AM EST
Currently in the planning stages and looking for land in Texas. Building a Barndo on more than 20 acres is what I am aiming to do, more land the better if possible.

So, who has one and do you have any tips or ideas? I know there are at least a few members here that live in them.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 12:39:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:23:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2021 9:26:28 AM EST by drobs]
I like the looks of this one:

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Would make for a good guest house / airbnb.

https://ozarkmetalbuildings.com/
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:29:51 AM EST
That would work nicely as a work shop.  A total pain in the ass tho if anything ever dents the outer walls.
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:34:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2021 9:41:28 AM EST by TX-Zen]
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:






(I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here)

Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:35:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2021 9:36:44 AM EST by heat762]
Built ours in 2014. Mueller steel building with spray foam.  Zero issues in cold last week. Have wood stove that will sweat you out if not in 40's outside.  Very efficient.

We did stained concrete throughout house, so it's easy to clean and we are happy with that still.

Ours has 12 foot wrap our porches, so it looks like a regular house mainly, but with sheet metal siding.
I love going in the attic in summer and it's like 80 degrees, cant say enough about spray foam.

Budget 30-50k for well, septic and utilities if not already on site.

ETA- our house is red iron with steel beams, not tubing like above.

Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:35:32 AM EST
We get flyers in the mail all the time for some Barndominium community up near DFW somewhere, they must be desperate to sell by mailing out stuff to what appears to be the entire state of Texas.  

Might be worth taking a look at floorplans to steal ideas from.



Free bump
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:41:21 AM EST
Barn appreciation tag. I don't live in mine, but the idea is interesting.

I'd be concerned about exhaust and chemical fumes if there was nothing to seperate the shop and living areas.
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:44:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By heat762:
ETA- our house is red iron with steel beams, not tubing like above.

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That's also a good point...mine is really a carport with sides which is why it was so cheap. I wanted red iron and steel beams but the same 1500sqft would have cost twice as much and it didn't make sense. The carport is rated at 150mph winds, so I figured it was worth it. It's not fancy but it works
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 9:53:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/21/2021 9:55:43 AM EST by Tmm1270]
We’ve built two. Will be doing a 3rd one in next year or two. Anything specific you want to know?

Eta... if you’re building the house you’ll live in forever, build steel frame. It’s more expensive, but also significantly stronger structurally.
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 12:05:33 PM EST
We just finished our 30x50x12 3 roll ups and 2 walk through on a concrete foundation with rough plumbing DWV. Red iron, welded- $31.5k. We will be adding windows ourselves and making a small apartment in the front 30x15.
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 10:07:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By heat762:
Built ours in 2014. Mueller steel building with spray foam.  Zero issues in cold last week. Have wood stove that will sweat you out if not in 40's outside.  Very efficient.

We did stained concrete throughout house, so it's easy to clean and we are happy with that still.

Ours has 12 foot wrap our porches, so it looks like a regular house mainly, but with sheet metal siding.
I love going in the attic in summer and it's like 80 degrees, cant say enough about spray foam.

Budget 30-50k for well, septic and utilities if not already on site.

ETA- our house is red iron with steel beams, not tubing like above.

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Pics?
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 10:08:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg
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Excellent info, thank you!
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 10:15:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tmm1270:
We’ve built two. Will be doing a 3rd one in next year or two. Anything specific you want to know?

Eta... if you’re building the house you’ll live in forever, build steel frame. It’s more expensive, but also significantly stronger structurally.
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Nothing specific, just looking for ideas and if its something I can live in long term. Its just me, and I have no problem living in something like this as long as I can find the right piece of land.

Do you have pics?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 7:12:10 AM EST
You can make them as nice or as basic as you want. The only thing that would keep you from living in it long term, is you f do not like the idea of metal siding.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 7:20:59 AM EST
I thought this thread would be about what plants crave.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 7:21:58 AM EST
Buddy is getting ready to build one now.

Said it’s going to be $75-80 per sq foot finished. Thats a red iron frame, concrete (no flooring) and basic amenities.

That price doesn’t include grading.


Think he also said that the going stick built home in the area is going around $175 per sq foot. So big savings.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 8:23:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Buddy is getting ready to build one now.

Said it’s going to be $75-80 per sq foot finished. Thats a red iron frame, concrete (no flooring) and basic amenities.

That price doesn’t include grading.


Think he also said that the going stick built home in the area is going around $175 per sq foot. So big savings.
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That sounds right.  I’d you build w iron, you still have to frame interior walls completely. So the only real savings is the exterior. Metal vs brick, rock, ect. Interior will be exactly the same as stick built. If you want granite counters, they’ll cost exactly the same as they would otherwise.  If you go post frame, it a pretty significant savings. The majority of the exterior walls are already there. Usually built as free span, with trusses, you can frame interior as you see fit . None of the walls are load bearing, so no 2x12 headers doubled up, ect.  


Link Posted: 2/22/2021 10:58:00 AM EST
Are these a viable option up north?

Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg

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Originally Posted By P400:
Barn appreciation tag. I don't live in mine, but the idea is interesting.

I'd be concerned about exhaust and chemical fumes if there was nothing to seperate the shop and living areas.
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That's a great question.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 3:10:30 PM EST
Most folk frame out house inside of the shop, so two seperate areas.  Don’t have to, I slept next to my tractor for a year, but I don’t keep chlorine gas inside....
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 3:28:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By drobs:
I like the looks of this one:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Barndominium_-_Ozark_Metal_Buildings_jpg-1834822.JPG

Would make for a good guest house / airbnb.

https://ozarkmetalbuildings.com/
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A good friend of mine once told me he's looking for a shop with an attached house.

I'll have to send this thread to him.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 7:49:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
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thanks for the info and great insight
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 7:52:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg
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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 7:57:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg
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I like it!
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 9:04:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hrt4me:


thanks for the info and great insight
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg


thanks for the info and great insight

Banks are Fing retarded when it comes to this. It’s cool to get a 750k loan on your 12/hr job, but a house with metal siding on some property outside town limits....... find a land bank. Capital farm credit, ect. I don’t know what’s available in states outside TX, but I’m sure there’s plenty. The process will be exactly the same as building a brick and mortar. Plans, interim financing ect. It really ain’t that difficult.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 9:08:49 PM EST
Texas is full already. Sorry.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 10:22:45 PM EST
This thread is pertinent to my interest.
Been thinking a barndo on 20+ acres would be a nice retirement home.  

Good info on steel beams.
My concern is concrete costs for foundation as I want a large shop on one side and "house" on the other.  Sort of like a modern take on the old dog run homes.
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg
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Dude, you win.  
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 10:49:35 PM EST
We call them "Shrouses" around here
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:46:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tmm1270:
Most folk frame out house inside of the shop, so two seperate areas.  Don’t have to, I slept next to my tractor for a year, but I don’t keep chlorine gas inside....
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You got any pics?
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Originally Posted By BKDinTexas:
Texas is full already. Sorry.
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I beg to differ, and you're going to need some votes to change your state back to Red, its currently purple.

But I get it though, you like your state. Its come down between Florida and Texas for me, based on taxes, freedom and a few other variables.

Where do you live in Texas so that I can avoid that County?
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less

The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky

In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about

IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it

Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:






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Awesome...
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Originally Posted By evo7011:

You got any pics?
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No but can take one. Anything specific you want to see?
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No but can take one. Anything specific you want to see?
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Nah, maybe just a few to get some ideas. I'm pretty dead set on doing this and living like @TX-Zen in a hobominium on rural land with StarLink. Might even buy a Raptor next year too!
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:24:44 AM EST
The whole trick is to make it look like a barn so the tax appraisal stays low. If you make it look like a house, you might as well build a house.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:32:30 AM EST
OP, we are looking to sort of duplicate this one. If some stars align we'll start building on the farm later this year. I'm still trying to make sure I understand the processes/pitfalls as well.

https://youtu.be/m4dKspMgQl4

Good info in this thread.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:34:55 AM EST
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Here’s ours

Purchased last year on 13 acres already “finished”......
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40x60 pole building
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Mini splits
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Originally Posted By Palm:
The whole trick is to make it look like a barn so the tax appraisal stays low. If you make it look like a house, you might as well build a house.
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Bingo! I want what would essentially appear to be a large garage on rural land. Inside would be a loft and a single bathroom, and plenty of room to park my truck inside.

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Originally Posted By Palm:
The whole trick is to make it look like a barn so the tax appraisal stays low. If you make it look like a house, you might as well build a house.
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A roll up door will cost 300$. Put 2 on there no matter what. Remove tracks on inside if you don’t want to actually use them. When it comes up, and it will, you tell them it’s a 1800 ft garage, w 200 ft finished space. In TX they can’t come inside unless you let them . Taxes should be about $10/month....

This is what a friend of mine did, I wouldn’t personally ever deny the king his rightful money
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 4:20:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By brachiosaur:
Are these a viable option up north?
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I guess it depends on how cold really and how much you finish the inside

Mine has 4 large doors and even with 2 inches of closed cell on the sides and 4 on the roof it gets fairly cold. I have two 24,000 BTU mini splits but even during our snowpocalypse below at 15 degrees they could keep the interior at 60f. When we lost power and it was 15f outside the inside stayed about 45, except one morning where it was 35 inside. As soon as the sun came up it hit 45 and stayed there though. Anytime it's around freezing or warmer I can get by on just 1 of the two units though which is nice and if it's in the high 30s I can actually get too hot if I run both units at full power

My place is yuuuuuge as far as HVAC conditions though and it has no interior paneling to protect from the outside. Add in 16 foot walls and the surface area of 1500 sqft, plus the 4 large doors and it's definitely a challenge. I knew it going into it and it doesn't bother me cold wise, but if I were in a consistently colder climate I'd for sure finish the inside to add the extra level of insulation. If you go with a smaller building obviously it will be easier to insulate, but the roll up doors are for sure a big hit to efficiency

Summer temps haven't hit yet but last fall I was able to run both 24k units on AC and kept it at 72 inside on an 85 degree day outside which was fine. I bet I'd die if it hits triple digits though, especially now that I have a loft because it's about 5 degrees warmer up there than the floor. To be safe I bought a couple more 24k units and will have them installed in the next few weeks. They are dirt cheap so even with 4 I am still way ahead of a fullsize house unit


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Originally Posted By evo7011:


Nothing specific, just looking for ideas and if its something I can live in long term. Its just me, and I have no problem living in something like this as long as I can find the right piece of land.

Do you have pics?
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Look carefully at your land choices, and make sure you can see them in the rain...I love my place but I bought a fucking swamp


It's definitely cost me more to make it livable than my buddy who is building a place up by Tmm1270. The soil up there is pretty sandy and there are plenty of small elevation changes that help with drainage, but where I'm at it's black gumbo mud, flat as a board and there isn't anywhere for water to go

That cost me roughtly 10k in caliche rock to build a driveway, and another 9 or 10k to dig deep enough to get to clay and use that clay to build up the pad for the hobominium. I think I'm close to 35k for landwork easy, and while some of that is for the shooting berms and clearing trees, a lot of that was a consequence of the gumbo and how you have to work with it

The further you build from a main road the further from power you are, and that costs you money too. Add in another 15 to 20k for well and septic

These are a few things to keep in mind when you are looking for land


Link Posted: 2/23/2021 4:28:51 PM EST
You need a really understanding woman to live with you unless you make it less spartan inside.

Ask me how I know
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 4:31:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alex_F:
You need a really understanding woman to live with you unless you make it less spartan inside.

Ask me how I know
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For sure

That's why I have another 3000 sqft of space next to the hobominium, so that if I decide to make an offer to the current potential Mrs Zen I already have room to build a house
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
For sure

That's why I have another 3000 sqft of space next to the hobominium, so that if I decide to make an offer to the current potential Mrs Zen I already have room to build a house
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A wise man
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 4:37:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By drobs:
I like the looks of this one:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Barndominium_-_Ozark_Metal_Buildings_jpg-1834822.JPG

Would make for a good guest house / airbnb.

https://ozarkmetalbuildings.com/
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I actually like that quite a bit... but I'm sort of a hick..
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 4:43:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
Look carefully at your land choices, and make sure you can see them in the rain...I love my place but I bought a fucking swamp
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210120_095622-1807559.jpg

It's definitely cost me more to make it livable than my buddy who is building a place up by Tmm1270. The soil up there is pretty sandy and there are plenty of small elevation changes that help with drainage, but where I'm at it's black gumbo mud, flat as a board and there isn't anywhere for water to go

That cost me roughtly 10k in caliche rock to build a driveway, and another 9 or 10k to dig deep enough to get to clay and use that clay to build up the pad for the hobominium. I think I'm close to 35k for landwork easy, and while some of that is for the shooting berms and clearing trees, a lot of that was a consequence of the gumbo and how you have to work with it

The further you build from a main road the further from power you are, and that costs you money too. Add in another 15 to 20k for well and septic

These are a few things to keep in mind when you are looking for land


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Holy shit, that mud!

Yea I have more research to do. I'll be down in September for a few weeks to hunt, eat BBQ, and then explore a little. Until then its mainly Zillow and LandWatch.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 4:57:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By evo7011:

Bingo! I want what would essentially appear to be a large garage on rural land. Inside would be a loft and a single bathroom, and plenty of room to park my truck inside.

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I would approach the bank with a shop loan with an office and bathroom.  

You can add a kitchen etc with cash after the loan closes.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 5:00:50 PM EST
Look for banks that specialize in "farm and ranch" type loans.  They're generally more flexible in how the finance buildings, etc.


Following with interest.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 5:11:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
good channel to watch

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfS-E34gL4VhOXMtWPMehNA
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Eric is good people.  He’s big into precision shooting, and is a better shooter than I ever will be
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 5:29:38 PM EST
we just finished ours in TX last year on 20 acres

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