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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 1:56:56 PM EDT
Apologies in advance if this is a repeat...my search skills are awful with the site.
I recently took delivery of a rifle and noticed on the ATF Form 4473/background check that the dealer puts in all the big details about the firearm (make, model, serial number, caliber). How is this NOT a gun registry? All the information the FBI needs is RIGHT THERE. Are we really to believe they're not keeping these records on who has what? (I understand they never see the transaction actually took place, but how many people *really* request a background check if they're not looking to make a purchase?) Why should we trust that the feds aren't tracking and maintaining this information? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 2:24:29 PM EDT
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I heard the same complaints in 1969.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:15:05 PM EDT
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The 4473 stays with the dealer.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:34:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNZ71]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ElrodCod: The 4473 stays with the dealer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ElrodCod: The 4473 stays with the dealer. https://freerangeamerican.us/atf-form-4473-database/ The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (ATF) recently revealed it has collected and maintained 920,664,765 firearm sales records to date that include American gun buyers' personal information. Nearly 95% percent of them are retained in a digitized format, and the agency obtained 54.7 million of these records in fiscal 2021 alone. The ATF says the massive stockpile of firearm sales transaction documents comes from 15 years' worth of "Out of Business Records" (OBRs) collected from gun dealers who have closed shop. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ElrodCod: The 4473 stays with the dealer. Until ATF Agents photograph the dealer’s records… |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:21:34 PM EDT
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (ATF) recently revealed it has collected and maintained 920,664,765 firearm sales records to date that include American gun buyers' personal information. Nearly 95% percent of them are retained in a digitized format, and the agency obtained 54.7 million of these records in fiscal 2021 alone. The ATF says the massive stockpile of firearm sales transaction documents comes from 15 years' worth of "Out of Business Records" (OBRs) collected from gun dealers who have closed shop. Gun Sales:  Attached FileNumbers don't make sense. These are may be all the closed dealer records since 1968 GCA. But that's still 17,049,347 records per year since 1968. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/18/2022 12:50:35 AM EDT
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It is a defacto registry. If they cared about the 2nd Amendment, the ATF wouldn't exist anyways.
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