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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:13:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Not a plumber but if it happens after 5+ seconds I'd say you do have a regulator somewhere, and it's failing.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:13:31 AM EDT
[#2]
Yep, classic prv failure.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:13:50 AM EDT
[#3]
90 psi, holy shit bro
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:21:34 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 90 psi, holy shit bro |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:23:25 AM EDT
[#5]
My PRV is vertical. Doesn’t seem to be an issue.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:37:43 AM EDT
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Anywhere else I should be looking for it? Glanced in my crawlspace but didn't see it there, that's also on the opposite end from where the water comes in. Didn't see one outside on the meter. There's the main shut off outside the house but the cover has a 5 sided bolt head on it so I'm thinking that's for city use and not to touch. Basement is finished so I hope it's not behind a wall
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:43:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anywhere else I should be looking for it? Glanced in my crawlspace but didn't see it there, that's also on the opposite end from where the water comes in. Didn't see one outside on the meter. There's the main shut off outside the house but the cover has a 5 sided bolt head on it so I'm thinking that's for city use and not to touch. Basement is finished so I hope it's not behind a wall Probably behind a wall. Usually they install an access panel. Generally it is within the first few feet after coming into the house. My brothers was the furthest I've seen...his was tucked between two joists about 20' away from the wall in which it came in. Should look like this.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:45:44 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 90 psi, holy shit bro Do you even power shower, bro? Flow limiters removed and 85 PSI makes for a great shower experience. We keep ours at 85 PSI. Hose bibs are street pressure, right at 120psi. You need all the pressure if you want your 5000 sq ft sprinkler to actually cover 5000 sq ft. 
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:48:55 AM EDT
[#9]
Check valves are typically horizontal. Pressure regulators can be mounted in any position.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 10:00:23 AM EDT
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I had a ceramic disk faucet that would cause a hum howl pipe shake in my house
it was a cheap model with no repair parts available i think the water pressure was jetting past the disk and causing a sympathetic vibration in the pipe work when it started, you could open the valve and shut it and it would seal and stop the tone hum eventually I replaced the faucet |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 10:01:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably behind a wall. Usually they install an access panel. Generally it is within the first few feet after coming into the house. This has been my experience. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:24:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even power shower, bro? Flow limiters removed and 85 PSI makes for a great shower experience. We keep ours at 85 PSI. Hose bibs are street pressure, right at 120psi. You need all the pressure if you want your 5000 sq ft sprinkler to actually cover 5000 sq ft. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 90 psi, holy shit bro Do you even power shower, bro? Flow limiters removed and 85 PSI makes for a great shower experience. We keep ours at 85 PSI. Hose bibs are street pressure, right at 120psi. You need all the pressure if you want your 5000 sq ft sprinkler to actually cover 5000 sq ft. I think we are maybe 35 psi, I'd have to check |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:45:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we are maybe 35 psi, I'd have to check That shower must feel like a dog peeing on your back.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 12:50:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Could definitely be a prv or dual check valve.
Any faucets dripping? Several times over the years, I've had wonky faucet stems that would show other weird symptoms like that. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 1:24:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could definitely be a prv or dual check valve. Any faucets dripping? Several times over the years, I've had wonky faucet stems that would show other weird symptoms like that. Nothing dripping. In fact, if you crack a faucet a bit it makes the noise go away |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 1:28:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we are maybe 35 psi, I'd have to check City use to have it higher but they have reduced the psi to save the water pumps. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:23:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing dripping. In fact, if you crack a faucet a bit it makes the noise go away Do you have an expansion tank? If you do, it's likely a regulator issue as the pressure and hammers would otherwise be dampened by the expansion tank. Assuming the tank hasn't failed. The bladder in them can pop and fill with water which is the same effect as having no tank at all. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:31:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have an expansion tank? If you do, it's likely a regulator issue as the pressure and hammers would otherwise be dampened by the expansion tank. Assuming the tank hasn't failed. The bladder in them can pop and fill with water which is the same effect as having no tank at all. I haven't seen one. Unless it's behind a wall too. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't seen one. Unless it's behind a wall too. WTF kind of house is this!? Where is your water heater? It is usually next to it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF kind of house is this!? Where is your water heater? It is usually next to it. Haha well the basement is finished. The water heater and furnace are in an unfinished closet of its own. But I don't see an expansion chamber or even a pressure regulator. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:40:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha well the basement is finished. The water heater and furnace are in an unfinished closet of its own. But I don't see an expansion chamber or even a pressure regulator. Then idiots finished your basement. Hope that wasn't you.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then idiots finished your basement. Hope that wasn't you. Nope, bought it that way! seems a little cheaply done, so I wouldn't be surprised if the regulator is behind a wall. But that would mean the water heater and basement bathroom would be bypassing it.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, bought it that way! seems a little cheaply done, so I wouldn't be surprised if the regulator is behind a wall. But that would mean the water heater and basement bathroom would be bypassing it.So you can see the pipe come out of the foundation, and go straight to bath fixtures? I think we need pics. 
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Posted: 10/19/2022 2:52:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you can see the pipe come out of the foundation, and go straight to bath fixtures? I think we need pics. I will try to take some later but yup, strait to water heater and I belive Ts off the main pipe to the downstairs bathroom. Pretty sure there needs to be a regulator before going to anything really, right? |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:01:14 PM EDT
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Does code allow the prv to be sealed in a wall?
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:11:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does code allow the prv to be sealed in a wall? I'm not a pro but I'd assume access has to be available per code. Not to say anyone follows code when finishing a basement, especially as a weekend warrior. OP, does the water come in the front of the house? Sometimes on older houses it's right after the shutoff outside between the house and street. Use a pair of channel locks or pliers on that Pentagon-head bolt. They are usually very short threads and not particularly stiff. You should have a 2-3' drop to the water bits. Generally there is a shutoff valve, and sometimes a meter and sometimes a PRV there. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 3:47:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not a pro but I'd assume access has to be available per code. Not to say anyone follows code when finishing a basement, especially as a weekend warrior. OP, does the water come in the front of the house? Sometimes on older houses it's right after the shutoff outside between the house and street. Use a pair of channel locks or pliers on that Pentagon-head bolt. They are usually very short threads and not particularly stiff. You should have a 2-3' drop to the water bits. Generally there is a shutoff valve, and sometimes a meter and sometimes a PRV there. Basement was coded. I can pull up the code on the cities website. I guess I can try opening it up. Just figured it wouldn't be in there since it didn't have a standard bolt head. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 4:25:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing dripping. In fact, if you crack a faucet a bit it makes the noise go away |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 4:28:43 PM EDT
[#29]
 this is code for me |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 4:42:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryInteresting. I definitely don't have one, but I've seen one at my neighbors house |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:48:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you can see the pipe come out of the foundation, and go straight to bath fixtures? I think we need pics. Was going to take pics but I ended up just buying a regulator. Cut the main pipe and put it in and so far no humming! Also my fridge water doesn't sound like it's going to fall apart when it shuts off. 45 psi at the hose bib. Thanks guys
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Posted: 10/19/2022 10:46:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was going to take pics but I ended up just buying a regulator. Cut the main pipe and put it in and so far no humming! Also my fridge water doesn't sound like it's going to fall apart when it shuts off. 45 psi at the hose bib. Thanks guys 45. Psh. Hope you don't like watering your grass. You just castrated your sprinkler.
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Posted: 10/19/2022 11:06:59 PM EDT
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You were fine at 90 psi.
I forgot to mention to check your toilet fill valves also. I've had some screamers before. Whatever the actual issue was, is probably a lot cheaper than a prv.
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